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    Post Re: Do you believe in Subracial Preservation?

    I do not pretend to be an expert in the anthropological arena, because I know next to nothing. However, I have a question that I always wanted to have answered.

    If there are such fundamental differences between Nordics, Meds, and Alpines (which there may be, who knows?) then how come the DNA of all subraces are alike?

    Of course, it might have to do with a deficiency of data or studies; however, I find it a bit puzzling how scientists can only narrow down swab samples to "Indo-European" rather than to Nordic, Mediterranean, and Alpine. Nonetheless, you CAN tell the difference between African admixture, Asian admixture, and Native American admixture, but you CAN'T tell the difference between a Nordic, Alpine, and Mediterranean within the larger "Indo-European" group.

    Now of course there are some anthropological differences in skull shape, pigmentation, and the rest. However, I honestly do not know how one can classify a sub-race without any hard scientific proof that would corroborate the claim.

    Before you preservationists slam down on my comment, please let me tell you that I have no bias either way due to a lack of information. I just have a simple question that I would like to address. Thank you.
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    Post Re: Do you believe in Subracial Preservation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oriana
    By saying that their first step is to "define the subraces that are in need of preservation," I mean they need to come up with a generally agreed-upon definition of what it means for one to be 'Nordic', 'Alpine', etc. This is an insurmountable task.

    Any 'subracialist' worth his salt should agree that all subraces, once thus defined, are worth preserving. A substantial number of them, however, think along the lines you describe: that the preservation of one subrace in particular (i.e. the 'Nordic' race) is of utmost importance, but that other subraces should be allowed to mix amongst themselves. This is an inherently contradictory view; one cannot support European preservation in general, for example, and believe Africans and Asians should be free to mix.

    Attaching a 'special' stigma to their own race/ culture/ ethnic group (or another race/ culture/ ethnic group they believe is most important to preserve) is the major flaw of preservationist ideologies.
    The "insurmountable task" of subracial classification you're referring to has already been dealt with by countless anthropologists and is generally accepted here at Skadi.

    Racialism is about preserving one's own race. So there is nothing contradictory about an European Racialist who is apathetic about whether or not the other Races mix.

    If your not of the given race why should you care about it's preserveration? Indeed the preservation of some races could mean the destruction of others.

    Besides most Blacks don't give a shit about racial preservation as do most Asians. They know mixing with Whites will give them better genes. Racial Preservation is largely a concern to Whites.
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    Post Re: Do you believe in Subracial Preservation?

    Quote Originally Posted by HCRenee1980
    I do not pretend to be an expert in the anthropological arena, because I know next to nothing. However, I have a question that I always wanted to have answered.

    If there are such fundamental differences between Nordics, Meds, and Alpines (which there may be, who knows?) then how come the DNA of all subraces are alike?

    Of course, it might have to do with a deficiency of data or studies; however, I find it a bit puzzling how scientists can only narrow down swab samples to "Indo-European" rather than to Nordic, Mediterranean, and Alpine. Nonetheless, you CAN tell the difference between African admixture, Asian admixture, and Native American admixture, but you CAN'T tell the difference between a Nordic, Alpine, and Mediterranean within the larger "Indo-European" group.

    Now of course there are some anthropological differences in skull shape, pigmentation, and the rest. However, I honestly do not know how one can classify a sub-race without any hard scientific proof that would corroborate the claim.

    Before you preservationists slam down on my comment, please let me tell you that I have no bias either way due to a lack of information. I just have a simple question that I would like to address. Thank you.
    What do you mean by hard scientific proof? The proof is in the phenotypes.

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    Re: Do you believe in Subracial Preservation?

    Every subrace has it's strengths and weaknesses, and every subrace has it's charactaristics that seperate themselves from others. I think it's important to maintain those differences so we can maintain our identity. I am not anti-nord or anti-med, and I believe in a unified Europe, but still..

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    Re: Do you believe in Subracial Preservation?

    It's something I think about now and then and I think it's good, but not an absolute necessity. Preserving the White race as a whole is most important.

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