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    Gedmatch & YourDNAPortal Results

    Here are some of mine:

    As for Gedmatch apps, my favourite and most accurate are MDLP K23b, Eurogenes K13 and K15. I've noticed that there is a difference in single populations between Oracle (more accurate) and Oracle+4 (a little off). I don't bother with pie chart and percentages, because distance plotting reveals my nearest ethnicities within 20 spaces and matches my family tree.


    MDLP K23b Oracle


    First seven places are more or less the same.


    Living DNA


    Single Population Sharing:


    # Population (source) Distance
    1 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 2.85
    2 Frisian ( ) 3.37
    3 Belgian ( ) 3.49
    4 Irish ( ) 3.58
    5 English ( ) 3.71
    6 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 4
    7 North_European ( ) 4.75
    8 CEU ( ) 5.29
    9 Welsh ( ) 5.31
    10 British ( ) 5.39
    11 French ( ) 6.93
    12 Dutch ( ) 7.12
    13 Norwegian_East ( ) 7.38
    14 South_German ( ) 7.78
    15 Norwegian_West ( ) 8.07
    16 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) 8.71
    17 Swede ( ) 8.75
    18 German-Volga ( ) 8.96
    19 North_German ( ) 9.02
    20 Dane ( ) 9.24


    Ancestry DNA


    Single Population Sharing:


    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Frisian ( ) 2.6
    2 Belgian ( ) 3.31
    3 Irish ( ) 3.5
    4 English ( ) 4.38
    5 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 4.49
    6 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 5.52
    7 North_European ( ) 5.77
    8 Dutch ( ) 6.37
    9 CEU ( ) 6.74
    10 South_German ( ) 6.79
    11 Welsh ( ) 6.83
    12 British ( ) 6.89
    13 German-Volga ( ) 7.82
    14 Norwegian_East ( ) 7.86
    15 French ( ) 8.26
    16 North_German ( ) 8.36
    17 Swede ( ) 8.86
    18 Dane ( ) 9.05
    19 Norwegian_West ( ) 9.19
    20 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) 9.95

    K13 is consistent except for the flip between fourth and fifth groups. K15 is best for the first two groups. MDLP doesn't waste my time with ancestry before the 15th century. Furthermore, what's the point of Oracle+4, in chasing crazy admix configurations between two, three, or four populations that don't fit?


    K13


    Living DNA


    Single Population Sharing:


    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southeast_English 3.09
    2 South_Dutch 4.44
    3 Southwest_English 5.15
    4 Orcadian 5.3
    5 West_German 5.66
    6 North_Dutch 6.17
    7 Danish 6.35
    8 Irish 6.58
    9 West_Scottish 6.64
    10 North_German 6.83
    11 Norwegian 8.51
    12 French 9.19
    13 Swedish 10.02
    14 Austrian 12.13
    15 East_German 12.95
    16 North_Swedish 15.15
    17 Spanish_Cataluna 16.24
    18 Hungarian 16.67
    19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.41
    20 Spanish_Galicia 17.67


    Ancestry DNA


    Single Population Sharing:


    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southeast_English 3.23
    2 South_Dutch 4.07
    3 Southwest_English 5.17
    4 West_German 5.24
    5 Orcadian 5.52
    6 North_Dutch 6.36
    7 Danish 6.6
    8 Irish 6.71
    9 West_Scottish 6.81
    10 North_German 6.93
    11 Norwegian 8.78
    12 French 8.79
    13 Swedish 10.29
    14 Austrian 12.03
    15 East_German 12.96
    16 North_Swedish 15.43
    17 Spanish_Cataluna 15.88
    18 Hungarian 16.58
    19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.05
    20 Spanish_Galicia 17.36


    K15


    Living DNA


    Single Population Sharing:


    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southwest_English 3.1
    2 Southeast_English 3.99
    3 South_Dutch 5.33
    4 Danish 5.73
    5 North_Dutch 5.82
    6 West_Scottish 5.92
    7 Irish 5.93
    8 Orcadian 6.31
    9 West_German 6.37
    10 North_German 6.75
    11 Norwegian 8.1
    12 French 8.88
    13 West_Norwegian 9.06
    14 Swedish 9.69
    15 North_Swedish 11.74
    16 East_German 12.16
    17 Southwest_Finnish 16.11
    18 Austrian 16.21
    19 Spanish_Galicia 16.34
    20 Spanish_Cataluna 16.43


    Ancestry DNA


    Single Population Sharing:


    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southwest_English 3.29
    2 Southeast_English 4.34
    3 North_Dutch 5.75
    4 Orcadian 5.86
    5 Danish 5.91
    6 South_Dutch 5.99
    7 West_German 6.05
    8 West_Scottish 6.09
    9 Irish 6.24
    10 North_German 7.19
    11 Norwegian 7.83
    12 West_Norwegian 8.57
    13 French 9.23
    14 Swedish 9.54
    15 North_Swedish 11.83
    16 East_German 12.73
    17 Spanish_Galicia 16.69
    18 Southwest_Finnish 16.69
    19 Austrian 16.96
    20 Spanish_Cataluna 16.98

    Top Oracle results for LDNA per app [Brackets where ADNA is different]:


    MDLP K11 Modern: British_Celtic @ 4.159802 (Oracle+4)
    MDLP K16 Modern: French (France) 3.12 [ADNA: French (WestFrance)]
    MDLP K23b: English_Kent_GBR ( ) 2.85 [ADNA: Frisian]
    MDLP World-22: CEU (derived) 4.57 [ADNA: German-South (derived)]
    MDLP World: Austrian 2.5


    Eurogenes K13: Southeast_English 3.09
    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15: Southwest_English 3.1
    Jtest: English 3.74
    EUtest: English 3.65


    Dodecad V3: CEU (HapMap) 2.89
    Africa9: North_Italian 4.86
    World9: Mixed_Germanic 2.79
    Dodecad K7b: Mixed_Germanic 3.33
    Dodecad K12b: Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 4.42


    HarappaWorld: utahn-white (1000genomes) 4.43 [ADNA: french]


    EthioHelix K10 + French: french 25.24
    EthioHelix K10 + Japanese: egypt 6.33
    EthioHelix K10 + Palestinian: morocco-n 6.81
    EthioHelix K10 Africa Only: algeria 8.46


    puntDNAL K10 Ancient: German_South 2.8 [ADNA: Croatian]
    puntDNAL K12 Ancient: Alberstedt_LN_I0118 5.7
    puntDNAL K12 Modern: German_South 2.22 [ADNA: Belgian]
    puntDNAL K13 Global: German_South 3.72
    puntDNAL K15: Utahn_White 2.94
    puntDNAL K8 African only: Egyptian 4.31


    Gedrosia K3: French @ 0.000000 (Oracle+4) [ADNA: Albanian]
    Gedrosia K12: Norwegian 16.82
    Ancient Eurasia K6: Hungarian 1.81


    MDLP utilities gave me something different in each app on Gedmatch, but the top results were all in my recent family tree, so if they changed position in proximity between Living DNA and Ancestry DNA, it was reasonable to see only older generations. It came down to combining English @ Eurogenes, Mixed Germanic @ Dodecad, Utahn White @ HarrapaWorld and German @ puntDNAL, which seems entirely consistent with the different results per MDLP app, as well as an Anglo-Frisian American profile. Whichever ones were irrelevant, like Ethiohelix and Gedrosia, were good for racial hygiene and that's fine if they don't match contemporary ethnicity.


    Your DNA Portal:

    DNA: Living | Ancestry
    K36: SZ3_Longobard 0.8102395 | SZ23_Longobard 0.6658806
    EUtest: English 0.4429018 | English 0.3848558
    K13: Southeast_English 0.3404314 | Southeast_English 0.3574268
    EUtest V2 K15: Southwest_English 0.3915967 | Southwest_English 0.389361
    Jtest K14: English 0.4540176 | English 0.3915214
    K27: Welsh 0.5831449 | Welsh 0.6095064
    K10: English 1.370716 | English 1.504824
    K11: Germans 0.5567962 | Germans 0.5266973
    Ancient Near East 13: French 0.7706179 | French 0.7229336

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    From YourDNAPortal, which is outdated:

    Surprised that my DNA is counted as Longobard here, because it's lower than Saxon and about even with Frank (depending on Living DNA or Ancestry DNA files) at MyTrueAncestry, which is a newer website by some years and constantly updating with new archaeological samples, sending me weekly emails with them. I didn't have patience to combine similar ancient populations in the results here.

    Eurogenes K36

    Population
    Value
    SZ3_Longobard
    33.6
    SZ23_Longobard
    22.4
    IA_Britain_York_6DRIF22
    9.6
    Baiuvarii_Germanic_STR_355
    6.8
    IA_Celtic_Britain_Hinxton1
    4.4
    DA111_Hallstatt-Bylany|_800BC
    2.4
    SZ42_Longobard
    1.8
    Baiuvarii_Germanic_AEd_92
    1.6
    CL102_Frankish
    1.4
    IA_Hinxton4_Celtic_Roman
    1.4
    IA_Wielbark_Kow_25_PL
    1.2
    CL63_Alpine
    1
    I2462_Bronze_Age_England_Kent
    1
    MBA_Germany__RISE471
    1
    Baiuvarii_Germanic_STR_248
    0.8
    CL23_north-Italian
    0.8
    BA_Sintashta_RISE395
    0.6
    EMA_Balkan_AED_1135
    0.6
    EMA_north-Italian_NW_54
    0.6
    IA_Wielbark_Mas_5_PL
    0.6
    Visigoth_I12032
    0.6
    i3759_Celtiberian_IA
    0.6
    BA_Hungary_RISE374
    0.4
    BA_Srubnaya_I0234
    0.4
    CL94_Iberian
    0.4
    EMA_Czech_Slav_RISE568
    0.4
    IA_Britain_York_6DRIF3
    0.4
    BA_Hungary_RISE247
    0.2
    Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0806
    0.2
    CL57_north-Italian
    0.2
    EMA_Balkan_AED_125
    0.2
    EMA_north-Italian_FN_2
    0.2
    I1767_Beaker_Britain
    0.2
    I3496_Iberian_Catalonia_200BCE
    0.2
    I3759_Celtiberian
    0.2
    IA_Britain_York_6DRIF23
    0.2
    LNBA_Urnfield_Germany_I0099
    0.2
    MBA_Ireland_Rathlin
    0.2
    Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c
    0.2
    SZ28_north-Italian
    0.2
    SZ40_Italian
    0.2
    Sungir6_Medieval_Russian
    0.2
    Visigoth_Iberian_I12034
    0.2

    Yes, I realise that Uralic isn't Germanic, but I grouped it together for the same reason that Basque is included within Italic countries--hence the inflated French or Spanish, depending on the calculator's country name affixed to Basque. So, all that means is I'm a little less genetically both Germanic and Italic, but about the same culturally as tabulated--as Germanic and Italic are overwhelmingly influential in each case. As for British, no, it doesn't include Irish, but minor Cornish, Welsh, Orcadian and Scot in some of the results, while I'm surprised at nary a Celtic result.

    Apparently, I have trace (mostly 0.2% each of) Balto-Slavic, Hellenic and Jew (listed as Samaritans and Algerian Jews) markers. According to Eurogenes, if one group doesn't reach the threshold of 4%, it's considered statistical noise, but I'm still surprised to see those listed at all.

    Also, YourDNAPortal says that I am higher Germanic and with a lower secondary percentage of Italic than MyTrueAncestry, which lowers my Germanic and says I'm more Celtic otherwise, without any noise percentages like seen here from unknown sources. Maybe Italic and Celtic are easy to confuse, so the Italo-Celtic category equally applies, or MyTrueAncestry is more accurate from more recent calculations. I'm certainly more Anglo-Celtic than "Anglo-Italic", if only one may be excused for using English and British interchangeably.

    EUtest
    GERMANIC: 84.8
    British: 60.8
    Danish: 20
    Dutch: 3.8
    Swedish: 0.2
    ITALIC: 15.2
    French: 7.2
    Portuguese: 4
    Spanish: 2.8
    Italian: 1.2

    K13
    GERMANIC: 87
    British: 78.8
    Dutch: 2.6
    German: 2.2
    Swedish: 1.8
    Finnish: 0.8
    Luxembourger: 0.4
    Danish: 0.4
    Austrian: 0.2
    Icelandic: 0.2
    ITALIC: 12.2
    Spanish: 7.8
    French: 2
    Portuguese: 1.6
    Italian: 0.4
    Romanian: 0.2
    Moldavian: 0.2
    BALTO-SLAVIC: 0.6
    Lithuanian: 0.2
    Russian: 0.2
    Serbian: 0.2
    HELLENIC 0.2
    Greek: 0.2
    SEMITIC: 0.2
    Israeli: 0.2

    K15
    GERMANIC: 89
    British: 59.8
    Norwegian: 12.4
    Icelandic: 5.8
    German: 4
    Danish: 2.8
    Swedish: 2.8
    Hungarian: 1
    Finnish: 0.4
    ITALIC: 9.2
    Spanish: 4.6
    French: 2.4
    Portuguese: 1.4
    Italian: 0.8
    BALTO-SLAVIC: 0.8
    Russian: 0.4
    Ukrainian: 0.2
    Serbian: 0.2
    SEMITIC: 0.2
    Algerian: 0.2

    Jtest
    GERMANIC: 83.4
    British: 54.6
    Danish: 22
    Dutch: 5.6
    Swedish: 0.8
    Norwegian: 0.4
    ITALIC: 16.2
    French: 9
    Spanish: 3.4
    Portuguese: 2.2
    Italian: 1.6
    BALTO-SLAVIC: 0.2
    Russian: 0.2
    HELLENIC: 0.2
    Greek: 0.2

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