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    Big If True: "The German Homeland Might Be Under Water!"

    Charles Kos' YT channel is somewhat reminiscent of Bright Inside & Ancient Architects, centered around the same themes, but less sourced - and instead often wildly speculative or just outlandish - even though he's a scholar. Primarly watch his channel to be entertained and provoked.

    Here are "the under water Germans"...



    He postulates that the original Germanic homeland was not somewhere in the East, he's convinced it's Doggerland. And that Germanics, Celts and Slavs pretty much have been living where they live now for many thousands of years already. Although Germanic tribes did conquer Central-Europe from the Slavs.

    Kos starts talking a few minutes into the video, which is decidedly more interesting than those silly captioned images at the start of the video.
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    It's a shame that Dogger Bank is all that's left. England and the Netherlands still face a war upon our shores by the Sea, but at least we now know that our proto-Germanic was "Doggerel", so no wonder Slavs don't understand us. I'm guessing also this is why I am a herring addict.

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    All of the sudden the flood myth starts to make a bit more sense.

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    I agree with half of his statement, the "Doggerland people" are better known as the Maglamosian Culture or corded ware culture, I had to study them at uni. Significant are the some mens graves contained stagg antlers and some womens graves
    contain swan feathers or swans wings, possibly the remains of swan-feather coats. Much later on they were known as the Elves!
    The Asa were the Yamna people from Eastern Europe who came with domesticated dogs and horses, with their shaman god Odin. As the Sagas say they made war with the Elves but eventually struck a truce with Odin marrying Freyja; you know the rest!

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    Yet another (expat) Slav with an inferiority complex. Another gem is this: "THIS is Why Portugese Sounds Polish/Russian! (SLAV Part 2!) And why history is wrong! It seems the Suebi 'Germans' actually were Slavs who battled the Romans as a Marcomanni confederacy which later became 'Samo's Empire' and later 'Moravia'. I can pick it up! The Portugese accent is so similar! It's slavs who learned latin! OMG!"
    The Suebi were Slavs, I always knew I'm actually a Polack.

    Obviously this cute little theory of Slavs being indigenous to (western) central Europe and Germanics coming from the Doggerbank is wrong from all angles, be it archaeology, anthropology, linguistics, genetics or historiography.

    Since genetics is the field I'm most accustomed to, let me explain it most simply:

    European peoples can largely be modeled in genetics as a mixture of three ancient populations (minor non-Europeans components excluded, that aren't relevant for non-southern Europeans): the Mesolithic hunter gatherers (WHG) of Europe, the farmers that brought agriculture to Europe from Anatolia (EEF) and a population from the Russian steppe, let's call them Yamnaya/WSH.
    The one ancient ancestry component that connects Indo-European peoples from Gibraltar to Bangladesh is that of the Yamnaya/WSH and for Germanics, Celts and Slavs that's the most important ancestry component at 40-55%, followed by that of the EEF in a close second place.
    The WHG are the population that would have lived on Doggerland (among other places in Europe). For northern and central Europeans this component makes up only 10 - 15% of their ancestry, some other Indo-Europeans have basically no ancestry from the WHG.

    Unless someone wants to believe the least important and first population gave Indo-European speech and culture to Germanics, that alone should already tell you how credible the theory is.


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    I agree with half of his statement, the "Doggerland people" are better known as the Maglamosian Culture or corded ware culture, I had to study them at uni. Significant are the some mens graves contained stagg antlers and some womens graves
    contain swan feathers or swans wings, possibly the remains of swan-feather coats. Much later on they were known as the Elves!
    The Asa were the Yamna people from Eastern Europe who came with domesticated dogs and horses, with their shaman god Odin. As the Sagas say they made war with the Elves but eventually struck a truce with Odin marrying Freyja; you know the rest!
    Your memory betrays you then, since the Corded Ware Culture is one of the, if not the very first, Indo-European culture that reached western Europe, with about three quarters of their ancestry being similar to the Yamnaya. That has nothing to do with Doggerland.
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    Regardless of the Slav's agenda, I would like to claim Doggerland as the Germanic Atlantis. Now, who knows what lies beneath the East Sea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall View Post
    Regardless of the Slav's agenda, I would like to claim Doggerland as the Germanic Atlantis. Now, who knows what lies beneath the East Sea?
    Celts>Slavs/Germans.
    'Militia est vita hominis super terram [The life of man upon earth is a warfare] (Job 7:1).'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Celts>Slavs/Germans.
    Care to explain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Celts>Slavs/Germans.
    *drops mic*

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    Quote Originally Posted by leRoux View Post
    *drops mic*
    That is a very common expression these days. I try to be unhip in any way possible.

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