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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    Infants do not have a functioning immune system, instead they get their antibodies etc. from the mother through the milk. Whatever infection the mother is fighting, antibodies against it is secreted into the milk. So if a nursing mother gets a vaccine, whatever antibodies she is producing as a result go into the baby's stomach.
    I think it would be safe to breastfeed about a month after taking the Covid shot. There are many chemicals and other concerns that can pass through breastmilk beyond vaccines if you are not careful such as mercury from fish. It may not be any more "harmful" than a flu vaccine. From reading the article, what might be at risk is having Alzheimer or ALS in the family medical history. RNA strands can deteriorate quickly too within a healthy body and may not be effective long term as researchers say. They will have their repeat vaccines like the flu shot.

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    Facebook will no longer ban theories that Covid-19 came from a lab

    Facebook will no longer ban the publication of theories claiming that Covid-19 was man-made, as the hypothesis of a laboratory accident in China returns to the American debate.

    “In light of current investigations into the origins of Covid-19 and in consultation with health experts, we will no longer remove from our platforms claims that Covid-19 was man-made or manufactured,” the group, which also owns the social media platform Instagram, said on its website on Wednesday.

    The social network, used by some 3.45 billion people on at least one of its four platforms (Facebook, Instagram, Messenger, WhatsApp) is changing its previous rules on disinformation during the coronavirus pandemic, which were updated last February.

    At that time, they provided for a ban on theories suggesting humans were behind the virus, as well as the alleged ineffectiveness of vaccines or the fact that coronavirus vaccines could be toxic or dangerous.

    “We continue to work with experts to monitor the evolving nature of the pandemic and regularly update our policies as new facts and trends emerge,” Facebook said.

    At the same time, the theory of a laboratory accident in Wuhan, China, has come back into the American debate in recent weeks after having long been dismissed by most experts.

    US President Joe Biden called on American intelligence agencies on Wednesday to “redouble their efforts” to explain the origin of Covid-19, and demanded a report within 90 days.

    Biden recalled that the work of the American intelligence community, which focused on two hypotheses (original animal or escape from a laboratory), did not make it possible yet to arrive at “a definitive conclusion.”

    After a four-week visit to Wuhan earlier this year, a joint study by WHO and Chinese experts deemed a laboratory accident “extremely unlikely” in March.

    The US and 13 allied countries subsequently expressed “concern” in a joint statement about the report, demanding that China provide full access to its data.

    The first cases of Covid-19 were identified at the end of 2019 in Wuhan, before the virus went on to spread across the globe and kill nearly 3.5 million people and counting.

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    State Dept. COVID investigator: ‘Ridiculous’ to say virus was natural



    A member of the State Department team whose investigation into the origins of coronavirus was halted by the Biden administration claimed Thursday it was “sort of ridiculous” to believe the virus passed naturally from animals to humans.

    “We were finding that despite the claims of our scientific community, including the National Institutes of Health and Dr. [Anthony] Fauci’s NIAID organization, that there was almost no evidence that supported a natural zoonotic evolution or source of COVID-19,” former State Department head investigator David Asher told Fox News’ “America Reports”.

    “The data disproportionately stacked up, as we investigated, that it was coming out of a lab or some supernatural source,” he added.

    The inquiry was launched last fall by the Trump administration and then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, but was stopped earlier this year over reports about its early findings, CNN reported Tuesday. In his interview Asher singled out former State Department official Chris Ford for what he called “disgraceful” behavior toward the investigation.

    “He seemed disinterested,” Asher recalled. “He said even if we came to it, how did we know where it came out of, what lab. Very rarely in my life in government have I ever encountered someone who was more of a ‘neg’-ocrat, less a bureaucrat, than that individual.”

    Fox News reported that Ford, then the assistant secretary of state for international security and non-proliferation, had expressed concern that the probe had been kept secret from him and bypassed State Department and intelligence community biological experts.

    The belief that the coronavirus leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology gained traction over the weekend when the Wall Street Journal reported that three researchers there sought hospital treatment in November 2019. The Journal reported that the workers experienced symptoms consistent with coronavirus and other illnesses and were hospitalized prior to the first confirmed case of COVID-19 in Wuhan.

    Asher claimed Thursday that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was “the epicenter of synthetic biology in the People’s Republic of China and they were up to some very hairy stuff with synthetic biology and so-called gain of function techniques.”

    Fauci, the White House chief medical adviser, acknowledged earlier this week that NIH granted the Wuhan lab $600,000 over a period of five years to investigate bat coronaviruses, but emphatically denied the money was used for gain of function research, which involves making viruses more transmissible and dangerous.

    However, according to Asher, “the Chinese most certainly felt that NIH was supporting their gain of function research” and claimed that the variants developed in the lab “were not similar to anything, for example, what could occur in natural evolution.”

    “I had biostatisticians at one of our national labs calculate the odds of this evolving in nature,” he said, “and it was like 1 in 13 million, and then they revised it to about 1 in 13 billion. So, to say this came out of a zoonotic situation is sort of ridiculous.”

    On Wednesday, President Biden ordered the intelligence community to conduct a 90-day review into the origins of the pandemic, and Asher said he was confident the probe would be thorough.

    “I think they’ll find a lot,” he said of the investigation. “Whether they say much is a different matter.”

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    White House reporter: People have ‘egg on their face’ over COVID origins denial



    A White House reporter is calling out the mainstream media for downplaying — and often flatly rejecting — the possibility that the novel coronavirus originated from a leak in a Chinese lab.

    “I think a lot of people have egg on their face. This was an idea that was first put forward by Mike Pompeo, secretary of state, Donald Trump,” ABC News’ chief White House correspondent Jonathan Karl said in an appearance Sunday on “This Week.”

    Karl, who was responding to a question on why it was important that the lab leak theory was dismissed so aggressively, noted that President Donald Trump polarized some with his delivery, but “said flatly” that the virus came from a lab.

    “Now serious people are saying it needs a serious inquiry,” Karl added.

    Last Tuesday, President Biden ordered US spy agencies to conduct a 90-day investigation into whether COVID-19 was released by the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    In a statement, he revealed that two theories predominate current US official thinking: that the virus emerged naturally from animals or escaped from a lab in Wuhan, China.

    The White House said the next afternoon that it wasn’t ruling out any possibilities, including the deliberate release of the virus.

    By that evening, the Senate had unanimously approved a measure requiring the federal government to declassify intelligence on the origins of COVID-19.

    That bill, offered by Sens. Mike Braun (R-Ind.) and Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), was passed by unanimous consent, a method which expedites proceedings if no present member of the Senate objects.

    It is not clear what the bill’s fate will be in the House, though it is likely to have bipartisan support.

    Biden’s abrupt pivot came after weeks of the administration being on defense about deferring to the World Health Organization for answers on how the pandemic started.

    The lab leak theory gained traction more recently, hitting the mainstream media last week after the Wall Street Journal reported that three employees at the Wuhan Institute of Virology fell so ill that they were hospitalized in November 2019.

    Prior to that, Facebook and Twitter would censor posts questioning if COVID was man-made, calling it disinformation.

    Facebook confirmed that it would no longer censor content related to COVID origins in the wake of the reporting, though Twitter has opted to maintain its policy, refusing to allow such material on its site.

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    Fauci changes tune again, says vaccinated should wear masks in parts of US



    White House chief medical adviser Anthony Fauci said Sunday that fully vaccinated Americans should “go the extra step” and wear masks when traveling to parts of the country with low vaccination rates.

    Fauci, who is also the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), told NBC’s “Meet the Press” that “there would be good reason” to wear masks in those areas “because, as we’ve said so often, vaccines are not, even as good as they are and highly effective, 100 percent.

    “And if you put yourself in an environment in which you have a high level of viral dynamics and a very low level of vaccine, you might want to go the extra step and say, ‘When I’m in that area where there’s a considerable degree of viral circulation, I might want to go the extra mile to be cautious enough to make sure that I get the extra added level of protection’, even though the vaccines themselves are highly effective,” he added.

    “Meet the Press” moderator Chuck Todd had asked Fauci, who was fully vaccinated in January, whether he would wear a mask if he traveled to Mississippi, the state currently with the lowest vaccination rate.

    Fauci’s comments were at odds with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky, who told NBC’s “Today” show June 30 that fully vaccinated Americans are “safe from the variants that are circulating here in the United States.”

    Walensky also reiterated that the CDC’s stance remains that fully vaccinated Americans are not obligated to wear masks and added that “masking policies are not to protect the vaccinated, they’re to protect the unvaccinated.”

    Fauci himself has a history of inconsistency when it comes to mask-wearing. Emails obtained by Buzzfeed News last month showed Fauci told former Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell in February 2020 that “[t]he typical mask you buy in the drug store is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through the material.”

    The NIAID director later changed his tune and mask recommendations and mandates were in effect in many states by the middle of last spring.

    In May of this year, Fauci told CBS News that vaccinated Americans don’t need to wear masks outside.

    “If you were going into a completely crowded situation where people are essentially falling all over each other, then you wear a mask,” he said at the time. “But any other time, if you’re vaccinated and you’re outside, put aside your mask. You don’t have to wear it.”

    About 1,000 counties across the US, many of them in the South and Midwest, have vaccination rates below 30 percent. According to data from the Mayo Clinic, there are four states where fewer than 40 percent of the population has received at least one vaccine dose: Mississippi, Louisiana, Idaho and Wyoming. The same data shows that in 14 states, fewer than 40 percent of the population is considered fully vaccinated.

    Health officials fear low-vaccination states and counties could become new COVID-19 hotspots as the so-called “Delta variant,” first discovered in India, becomes the dominant strain in the US.

    However, initial studies have indicated that vaccines from Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech, and Johnson & Johnson have all shown effectiveness against variants, including the Delta strain.

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