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    Quote Originally Posted by leRoux
    Chlod, I’m not sure you can say that South Korea went into a mild lockdown. I was working remotely with South Korean colleagues in February/March. Any Koreans who left their home were forced to remain at their destination for 30 days before they were allowed to return. One guy was stuck in Busan for an additional 30 days after he’d been there a month at least already. Anyone travelling into Korea was forced to remain in a hotel quarantine for at least 14 days before they could be escorted to their final destination. You weren’t even allowed to leave the room for food.
    Minus 'newcomers' remaining in quarantine for two weeks (which I find only logical and approve of), all these measures exist in Latin Europe and the U.K. as well, and sadly in Belgium too because the Francophones always look to France for guidance and copy French policies letter for letter - and then Flanders has to put up with that. They exist and then some. There are plenty of European students who haven't seen their parents since the start of the lockdown because they're stuck in their dormitories.

    South Korea didn't have a general lockdown nor did it shut down its economy over the virus. That in and of itself makes the R.O.K.-lockdown milder and more palatable, all the more so because the Western economic lockdown is resembling the collapse of the U.S.S.R., with economists now saying there won't be a V-shaped recovery of the economy - the lockdown may very well prove to be the death blow to Western civilization, the crisis too many after a decade of doom. Granted, the Koreans did more than a country like Sweden as far as altering people's day to day lives goes, but far less than France.

    This tweet didn't age well, BTW:

    “When a nation forgets her skill in war, when her religion becomes a mockery, when the whole nation becomes a nation of money-grabbers, then the wild tribes, the barbarians drive in.“ – Robert Howard

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    “Imagine that astronomers discovered a new comet, one that was an exact duplicate of the Chixculub object and was going hit the Earth in 30 years. Which would, if uninterrupted, exterminate the human race.

    Let us also suppose that the numbers work out so that a hearty effort, something like the level of US war spending in WWII, but for decades, could stop it, by making and delivering enough hydrogen bombs to alter the orbit . We would need to design and build Orion ships, be frantically mining uranium ( and thorium), breeding plutonium and U-233, using lithium for bombs rather than batteries, like God intended. We’d be frantically building up heavy industry, making steel and building rockets, writing codes modeling hot dense matter rather than handling social media. …

    We’d have guys writing long-winded articles pointing out that Ptolemy’s model of the solar system was wrong, so how can anyone believe those that JPL puts out today ?( hat tip to SJ Gould and Cordelia Fine).

    We’d have septuagenarians pointing out that by the time it hit, they’d probably be dead, so why should they care? We’d have philosophy professors arguing that the future doesn’t really ‘exist’.

    People would make and share these kinds of falsehoods, creating their own information ecology, one made up fresh out of whole cloth – except for a few traditionalists, flat-Earthers and followers of Velikovsky. One full of lies obvious to everybody that ever studied the Kepler problem.. everybody who is anybody !

    We’d have demented billionaires subsidizing hacks – hacks that told us whatever their paymasters wanted us to hear, told us that 100 million megatons wasn’t really that bad, or that it was probably our time and that in the long run good things, like the rise of the mammals, could flow from such a cleansing. We should ’embrace’ cosmic collisions, as a creative force. Some of the billionaires would end up believing the lies they paid for !

    The Washington Post would warn us that fears of cosmic extermination might fuel racism and xenophobia. The New York Times would worry about the world being saved by the wrong people – people of color would not be playing much of a role, of course.

    Still, we might manage to get the job done. There are ways.” link

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    If we had a comet headed for us, Mitch McConnell would say he doesn't feel any sense of urgency, and that they might think about it after their next holiday break.
    Most people think as they are trained to think, and most people make a majority.

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    You can't make this shit up: Meet Dr. "Rachel" Levine:


    This freak show adds some flavor to the Corona Covid Circus.

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    Richard Spencer Promotes Mass Vaccination for Coronavirus and Scoffs at Fauci’s Detractors



    Richard Spencer speaks to J.F. Gariepy (who had received $20,000 from Jeffrey Epstein to start his show) about how crazy conspiracy theorists are knocking vaccines and Fauci, who is a mensch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    On the more technical side, it is well known that disrupting organic social networks -- like the ones at the work place, at church, at the pub etc. -- is an effective way of making propaganda more effective by socially isolating the individual. Being embedded in an organic social context makes the individual more resistant to propaganda and, very important, more prone to actively resist oppression. So while they might let you out of your house to go to work, they will resist letting you rejoin your church, local clubs and so on. And please, do not talk to your co-workers, and try to maintain at least two meters distance when you have lunch. And keep away from other parishioners. And so on. But, please, do read news on Facebook.
    I'm thinking the social isolation works two ways. On the one side, it breaks up the social circles that people are used to conform to, and relieves individuals from the shackles of group-think. Suddenly they have lots of time on their hands, and a great interest in checking out what's going on in the World, without the constant input from their peer-groups, which in normal circumstances would act as a consensus-building force. Maybe I'm prescribing too much confidence in normies, but I think a lot of people who aren't completely daft might gain some insight by solitarily contemplating the current affairs, as well as all the other important questions in life, without some mid-wit co-worker or drinking buddy constantly regurgitating the "party line" at every opportunity.

    When it comes to forming real-life protests, then social isolation surely is anything but a benefit. But apart from the Yellow Vest protests, there were hardly any demonstrations going on that even barely touched upon our interests. So for the time being, I think we're good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech
    Yep, you've guessed it... "toxic white masculinity" is being blamed, SJWs finally discovered a talking point in the Corona mess. Some Karen named Abby Haglage is complaining about it and other Karens are taking note.
    Study men less likely to wear masks in public because it is not cool and a sign of weakness

    By Abby Haglage.



    Few things have proven more contentious amid the coronavirus pandemic than masks. The protective covering has been debated and scrutinized through the lens of politics, religion, governance and — as of this week — masculinity.

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has been recommending that healthy Americans wear masks since April 3, saying that doing so can “protect people around you if you are infected but do not have symptoms.” Models have shown that if 80 percent of people wear them, coronavirus cases — which now top 1.4 million in the U.S. — may plummet.

    Still, in a new preliminary study released this week, researchers suggest that men may not only be less likely to wear masks but that some actually view them as a sign of weakness. The research, which is currently being peer-reviewed, may shed light on why public-facing men — especially white men — seem proud to appear in public without them.

    The study, a collaborative effort between researchers at Middlesex University London and the Mathematical Science Research Institute in Berkeley, Calif., involved an online experiment with more than 2,459 individuals who were given various messages intended to promote wearing a face mask and then asked questions about their intentions. The researchers concluded that “men less than women intend to wear a face-covering,” and that the two driving forces are that men are less likely to “believe that they will be seriously affected by the coronavirus” and that they consider masks “shameful, not cool [and] a sign of weakness.”

    To be clear, plenty of men are surely following CDC guidelines in the U.S. — you may be one of them. But the study is a window into the minds of those who aren’t — men who are either unaware or unconvinced of the sobering facts about coronavirus that are unique to them. Namely, that they are not only getting infected at higher rates and experiencing more severe symptoms of COVID-19, but are also more likely to die.

    Matt Englar-Carlson, the author of multiple books on masculinity as well as the director of the Center for Boys and Men at California State University at Fullerton says masks are just the latest iteration of a longstanding issue. “Decades of research on men’s health has shown disparities between men and women in health behaviors,” says Englar-Carlson. “These disparities exist around preventative health measures such as self-exams, helmet use for cycles, using sunscreen, seat belt use, preventative health care and seeking of health care services, but also in taking life-threatening risks. Men tend to engage in more risk-taking behavior, and not wearing a mask or downplaying the risk of COVID 19 is a considerable health risk.”

    He notes that there are many aspects of masculinity, but this one seems to fall under one that’s toxic. “The notion that men need to always appear strong and show no weaknesses — and when that is rigidly adopted and not adaptable to the environment or new information — allows a man to be consistent with his notion of maintaining his sense of masculinity, but it comes at a significant cost,” he says.

    Caroline Heldman, a senior research advisor for the Geena Davis Institute for Gender in Media as well as a professor of politics at Occidental College, agrees. “There are many wonderful aspects of masculinity, like being confident and rescuing others in crisis, but masculinity becomes toxic when it causes men to put their lives at risk,” she tells Yahoo Life. “This is the very definition of toxic masculinity, and toxic masculinity is a killer.”

    The study did not explore the differences in motivations behind mask-wearing among racial lines, which — in the wake of the shooting of Ahmaud Arbery — cannot be overlooked. As Vox recently pointed out, the decision to not wear a mask may be less fraught for “a certain subset of mostly, white conservative men,” for whom “not wearing a mask seems to have become a hallmark of manliness."

    Judy Lubin, a sociologist, policy analyst, racial justice advocate who founded the Center for Urban and Racial Equity (CURE) argues that for white men, not wearing a mask is a privilege, where for black men — who have routinely been targeted by police — it’s a matter of life or death. “Masks have traditionally been associated with criminality and black men who, because of racist ideas and stereotypes, are often perceived as criminals,” says Lubin. “So wearing a mask for black men is deeply complicated and conflicting. The thing — a mask in this case — that may protect you from contracting a deadly disease, may also be the thing that subjects you to deadly police brutality or white vigilante violence.”

    White men, it seems, may eschew a mask for different reasons. President Donald Trump and President Mike Pence, the two most visible examples of this, have both appeared in public spaces without a mask — Trump during a tour of a production facility in Arizona last week and Pence at a visit to the Mayo Clinic in late April. Pence has since expressed regret for not wearing the mask, saying he “should have worn” one in retrospect; Trump, on the other hand, has defended his decision, saying he wasn’t told it was necessary. Neither responded to Yahoo Life’s request for comment.

    Lubin says that Trump’s decision may be galvanizing a group of individuals who feel the freedom to put their lives at risk. “Trump's base is largely white men who have an affinity for traditional masculine ideals,” Lubin says. “Men who embrace traditional ideas of masculinity, like the macho persona that Trump portrays, tend to engage in more risk-taking behaviors that compromise their health. So wearing a mask when you perceive COVID-19 to not be a serious threat is a sign of weakness.”

    Helman says these actions — no matter the reasoning — are “reckless” and send a dangerous message. “Since the office of the president is so tied to hyper-masculinity, Trump and Pence are performing almost a caricature of toxic masculinity by refusing to demonstrate basic safety precautions,” Heldman tells Yahoo Life. “As leaders, they are sending a terrible message to American men that they should put their lives at risk. With COVID-19, this reckless messaging from Trump in order to project a toxic brand of masculinity is putting everyone at risk because many Americans are following his lead.”

    As of now, masks are not mandatory in the U.S., but Lubin argues that they may solve some of these issues. “This is a public health issue and a matter of life and death,” she says. “Requiring that everyone wear a mask or some type of face covering is important to countering the politicization of COVID-19 public health measures that have some segments of the population willing to put the health of others at risk.”

    Source: Yahoo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verđandi View Post


    Richard Spencer speaks to J.F. Gariepy (who had received $20,000 from Jeffrey Epstein to start his show) about how crazy conspiracy theorists are knocking vaccines and Fauci, who is a mensch.

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    I have noticed how virtually everyone who's big in the alt right seems to be in lock step pro vaccine.

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