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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post


    Snitch 1984 culture comes to the UK. I think it's obvious what this virus hoax is for.
    The Coronoia and Agendas pushed with it, are for sure more dangerous than the Virus ever could be.


    A spiritually and physically health person WILL NOT die of a disease.
    Unfortunately there are things like ageing... Which is thermodynamics applied to an organism, meaning it will tend going to disorder until that organism finally dies and goes into decay. That's the way of this world, mate. Deal with it. No government, no academic priesthood, is going to save you from it.
    If you want to live longer, have some children with a proper mate and raise them well. Take some care for their future and don't let the government or other institution do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theunissen View Post
    Perhaps you should clarify a few things first:
    Why did you say he's microchipping the kid?
    Was using sarcasm to show how absurd I think that particular belief is. (Can't believe I have to explain that one. And yet you accused another poster of acting autistic.)

    What do mean by a "conspiracy crowd"?
    Just my way of referring to the faction in this thread that doesn't believe the mainstream overridingly accepted version of the facts of this situation. I think everybody including you knows what's meant by that. Do you take issue with the term conspiracy?

    Define what you mean by a Pandemic. How is that distinguished from a presumably contagious disease?
    In simple terms, a global outbreak of an infectious disease, with an outbreak being an increase in the expected number of cases of a disease (i.e. seasonal influenza or benign respiratory viruses like rhinovirus common colds not fitting the bill, even if they may have global circulation). I invite you to look up the more specific consensus definitions put forth and I guarantee you this coronavirus outbreak would fit any of them. Anyway, what we call it isn't as important as the fact that this virus threatens to cause a more significant amount of morbidity and mortality than any other respiratory virus we've seen in 100 years.

    Do you know the differences between coincidence, association, correlation and causation?
    Sure. Demonstrated as examples:
    Coincidence: A coronavirus species making the jump to infect humans (causing over 300,000 deaths to date) and Bill Gates owning a foundation that funds vaccine programs.
    Association and correlation: Roughly equivalent terms, correlation being a little more mathematical. An example would be being the first person infected by an emerging zoonotic virus and being Asian.
    Causation: A recent outbreak of cases of pneumonia of unknown etiology in Wuhan, China and the virus we now call severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2, the RNA of which was identified for the first time in this initial cluster of patients and has since been found in the respiratory tracts of several million people around the world with infectious respiratory syndromes.

    Are you familiar with the rules of logical argumentation and are you willing to abide by them?
    I'd consider having a more formal debate, but something tells me neither of us would be able to convince the other to take up the opposite viewpoint. Because in the end I think we just have different ways of seeing the world and nothing is going to change that. Anything I would present as evidence I'm sure you would have some way of explaining away, like official statistics or scientific findings simply being misinformation disseminated by governmental elites. I'm writing here more so to convince people who may be on the fence. Although even that is a tall task, and my main purpose is actually to show that believing in these sorts of conspiracies, which are all over this forum, is not a requisite part of valuing the principles that serve as this place's most basic common denominator. I really believe the association developing between right wing attitudes and conspiracist ideation is one of the biggest threats to our existence, and if I can convince just one person to not abandon preservationist ideals who would otherwise be alienated by the type of ideas being expressed here, I'd consider my writing here worthwhile.

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    Fine show me the antigen and show me the antibody for this supposed disease. You cant no antigen and no antibody = no disease.
    I can show you how the economy is being dismantled and every single one of our countries are being turned into marxist police states.
    We're already being told "this is the new normal" none of our rights are coming back. Oh and of course more restrictions will be added as
    new "outbreaks" appear as needed.

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    Kamala Harris Introduces Senate Resolution Saying Phrase ‘Wuhan Virus’ Is ‘Anti-Asian’

    Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., introduced a resolution condemning “anti-Asian sentiment as related to COVID-19,” including use of the phrase “Wuhan Virus.”

    The former presidential candidate introduced the bill on behalf of a number of Democrats to condemn “all manifestations or expressions of racism, xenophobia, discrimination, anti-Asian sentiment, scapegoating, and ethnic or religious intolerance” and “to expeditiously investigate and document all credible reports of hate crimes, incidents, and threats against the Asian American and Pacific Islander community in the United States.”

    The resolution claims a study found over 400 cases of anti-Asian discrimination related to COVID-19 between February 7 and March 9.

    The resolution takes particular aim at phrases such as “Wuhan virus,” “Chinese virus” and “Kung Flu” for perpetrating “anti-Asian stigma.”

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    British Health Officials Suggest Coronavirus Vaccine Could Be MANDATORY



    The British health secretary Matt Hancock said during a briefing that he hopes ‘everybody would have the vaccine’, if and when a coronavirus shot is rolled out, and did not rule out making it mandatory for every citizen.


    Hancock was asked directly by a reporter if getting the vaccine could be made compulsory, and replied that the question is “not one that we have addressed yet”. “I would hope given the scale of this crisis and given the overwhelming need for us to get through this and to get the country back on its feet and the very positive impact that a vaccine would have that everybody would have the vaccine.” Hancock said.


    Professor John Newton, who is overseeing Britain’s coronavirus testing, then confirmed that mandating vaccinations is on the table. “Clearly mandation is there, it can be used in some instances.” Newton said, admitting however that “most successful vaccine programmes tend to be by consent.” “Although some countries have adopted mandatory programmes, the most successful programmes tend to be done on the basis of consent, good information and good delivery mechanisms.” Newton said.


    Hancock has previously strenuously criticised anti-vaccination campaigners. Last year he announced that the UK Government was “looking very seriously” at instituting compulsory vaccinations for state school pupils.



    In the US,
    calls have been made to make any vaccination mandatory with the likes of the New York Times expressing concern that half of Americans would refuse to take it.



    In Canada, a poll recently revealed that 60% think that when a vaccine for coronavirus becomes available it should be made mandatory. In addition, Canada’s current Chief Public Health Officer appeared in a recently resurfaced 2010 documentary in which she advocated using mandatory “tracking bracelets” for people who refuse to take a vaccine after a virus outbreak.


    Many experts have suggested that a vaccine may not even be successful due to the nature of the coronavirus family and the fact that it can mutate.


    In the UK, Scientists have expressed doubts over the effectiveness of a vaccine that has been rushed to human trials, after all of the monkeys used in initial testing later contracted coronavirus.



    Meanwhile, greater breakthroughs have been made in anti-body studies, with researchers from Seattle successfully neutralizing the spike proteins of the virus, and researchers in California claiming to have discovered anti-bodies that can completely block COVID-19.





    British Health Officials Suggest Coronavirus Vaccine Could Be MANDATORY

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    The ideal of 'vaccines' was good but there has been so much underhand tampering to produce effects that a third of people will refuse to take a vaccine of any kind.This won't change, especially when 'governments' everywhere have ignored the associated facts.



    There’s a widely known saying attributed to certain luminaries such as Benjamin Franklin, Sir Walter Raleigh, Samuel Butler, and Hudribras: “A man convinced against his will; is of the same opinion still.”

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    Sweden’s COVID-19 death toll becomes highest in the world



    Sweden had 6.08 deaths per million inhabitants per day between May 13 and May 20. This is the highest in the world, above the UK, Belgium and the US, which have 5.57, 4.28 and 4.11, respectively.

    At this stage of the pandemic, the Scandinavian country has the highest mortality rate per capita, according to a Financial Times trackerwhich uses a seven-day rolling average of new deaths.

    In recent weeks, as the death toll has fallen significantly in other European countries such as Spain, Italy, France and the UK, Sweden’s has remained stubbornly high.

    As of Wednesday, 3,831 people had died from COVID-19 in Sweden – a country with a population of 10 million. Denmark, Finland and Norway – which each have about 5 million inhabitants – have recorded death tolls of 551, 301 and 233, respectively.

    The FT tracker shows that Sweden had 6.4 deaths per million people 61 days after its death rate first climbed above 0.1 deaths per million. That contrasts with the UK’s 6.2 deaths per million at the same stage, Italy’s 5.5 and Spain’s 4.

    Sweden’s no-lockdown approach to the virus has attracted international scrutiny and some criticism. However, Sara Byfors, a leading specialist at Sweden’s public health agency, said she was not aware of the tracker’s numbers.

    “We are concerned about people dying from the disease. It’s not something we take lightly… We keep on working on our strategy,” Byfors said.
    State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, the spokesman for Sweden’s outlier coronavirus strategy, dismissed the figures, arguing that it was misleading to focus on the death toll over a single week.

    He has also suggested a second wave of the virus could be milder in Sweden than in countries where lockdowns were imposed.
    “I think the Swedish strategy has proven to be sustainable. We get figures now that people are actually increasing their adherence to our advice, not decreasing,” Tegnell said. Although Sweden’s hospitals have reported strained conditions, they have not been overwhelmed.

    At the Danderyd Hospital in Stockholm, Klara Bergmark, head of the intensive care unit, told reporters from AFP that staff may be tired, but they are preparing to work at a heightened level over the summer and potentially “the whole year“.

    The post Sweden’s COVID-19 death toll becomes highest in the world appeared first on Voice of Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley View Post
    2. If so, do you believe that there is threshold of severity beyond which a lockdown would be potentially beneficial?
    Yes. The black plague could have merited a lockdown.

    But even when it hit, society did not suspend all actions and go into lockdown. Because the results of that would have been even worse than 25 percent of the population dying. Today, though, society seems to be a bit more resilient when it comes to food production. An even larger proportion of the population makes things that are "nice to have" as opposed to "need to have". We can all survive if the pencil pushers at the local council take a month off. We could even survive a month without art directors.

    But let's not fool ourselves. A total lockdown will never occur since we are dependent on the technical infrastructure to keep working even during quarantine. Electricity must flow, food must be delivered to supermarkets, water must flow from the taps, plumbing must work, and the sewage plant must keep on working. If anything of that fails, you have an extremely bad situation and potentially hundreds of thousands of dead within a week or two.

    So a total lockdown, which would be effective against a pandemic is an illusion. What you will have, at most, is a partial lockdown that will impede transmission of the disease and flatten the curve.

    So, please, stop fooling yourself.

    3. And if a pandemic occurred, would you consider the creation of a vaccine, a means that has eradicated infectious diseases in the past, to be a worthwhile pursuit?
    Vaccines in themselves are not the problem. That is just giving the immune system a heads-up of things to come. Reacting to a vaccine is not necessarily any different from reacting to the real thing.

    The problems seems to be all the stuff they add to the vaccine to make it more stable and more efficient. I must say that injecting organically bound mercury into my body makes me a bit uneasy.

    But the real problems with vaccines in relation to pandemics and lockdowns is that they may take a few years to get into action. And by then society will have committed suicide through atrophy.

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    American billionaires got $434 billion richer during the pandemic



    • U.S. billionaires saw their fortunes soar by $434 billion during the nation’s lockdown between mid-March and mid-May, according to a new report.
    • Amazon’s Jeff Bezos and Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg had the biggest gains.
    • Bezos added $34.6 billion to his wealth and Zuckerberg picked up $25 billion.

    America’s billionaires saw their fortunes soar by $434 billion during the U.S. lockdown between mid-March and mid-May, according to a new report.

    Amazon’s Jeff Bezos and Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg had the biggest gains, with Bezos adding $34.6 billion to his wealth and Zuckerberg adding $25 billion, according to the report from Americans for Tax Fairness and the Institute for Policy Studies’ Program for Inequality. The report is based on Forbes data for America’s more than 600 billionaires between March 18, when most states were in lockdown, and May 19.

    The billionaire gains highlight how the coronavirus pandemic has rewarded the largest and most tech-focused companies, even as the economy and labor force grapples with the worst economic crisis in recent history.

    According to the report, the net worth of America’s billionaires grew 15% during the two-month period, to $3.382 trillion from $2.948 trillion. The biggest gains were at the top of the billionaire pyramid, with the richest five billionaires -- Bezos, Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Warren Buffett, and Larry Ellison -- seeing combined wealth gains of $76 billion.

    Elon Musk had among the largest percentage gain of billionaires during the two months, seeing his net worth jump by 48% in the two months to $36 billion. Zuckerberg was close behind, seeing his wealth surge by 46% in the two months, to $80 billion. Bezos’ wealth increased by 31% to $147 billion. Bezos’ ex-wife, MacKenzie Bezos, who received Amazon shares in their divorce, also saw her wealth increase by a third, to $48 billion.

    Because the study timeline captures the stock market bottom and quick rebound, it creates a slightly sunnier picture for billionaires than the full year. For the year, Buffett’s wealth has declined by $20 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaire’s Index, while Gates is down by $4.3 billion. For the year, Jeff Bezos has gained $35.5 billion while Zuckerberg is up by $9 billion.

    There were some losers during the two-month period, especially for billionaires in the travel, hospitality or retail business who have yet to see their stocks and companies recover. Ralph Lauren saw his wealth drop by $100 million to $5.6 billion, while hotelier John Pritzker saw his wealth drop by $34 million to $2.56 billion.

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    NJ Driver Who Wore N95 Mask Crashes, Police Say



    In the original post, police said the unidentified driver had been wearing the mask for several hours and had been getting too much carbon dioxide, and too little oxygen, before crashing.

    “It is certainly possible that some other medical reason could've contributed to the driver passing out," the updated post reads.

    The driver was transported to the hospital with injuries that weren't considered life-threatening, they said. No other vehicles were involved.

    Police reminded the public that face masks are not necessary outdoors while social distancing can be maintained, and "especially not necessary when driving a vehicle with no additional occupants."

    CORRECTION: Lincoln Park police said they didn't know for sure that the reason a driver fainted and crashed was because he was wearing an N95 mask.“Police officers are not physicians and do not know the medical history of every person we encounter,” they wrote in a correction to an original Facebook post.

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    German Health Minister says Trump “has a point” about WHO



    Jens Spahn, Germany’s Federal Minister of Health, says that American President Donald Trump “has a point” in his criticisms of the World Health Organisation (WHO). The WHO has come under fire from President Trump and others for its failures during the early weeks of the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic.

    Spahn made the remarks in an interview he gave to the Financial Times. “[President Trump] does have a point — the WHO needs to reform its governance and accountability,” Spahn said. “We need to figure out exactly where the money goes.”

    The WHO has been accused of repeating Chinese government propaganda during the early phase of the pandemic, such as its initial claim that the virus could not be spread through person-to-person contact. Many believe that this disinformation, which was designed to help China save face for its role in igniting the crisis, severely hindered and delayed the international response to the outbreak.

    Nevertheless, Spahn urged the US not to consider leaving the organisation until after the pandemic has passed, in the hope that it can still be reformed. President Trump threatened to cut off US funding for the institution last week, as previously reported by Voice of Europe.

    Spahn never mentioned China specifically in the interview, however. He stressed that America’s financial contributions to the WHO are critical to its operations. He said that while many Western nations can manage their own healthcare, many poorer nations rely on the WHO for medical assistance they can’t provide themselves. He said that reducing the WHO’s ability to offer aid in a crisis such as a pandemic would pose a danger to all nations.

    Chinese President Xi Jinping pledged $2 billion USD to the WHO over the next two years in his speech at the opening ceremony of the World Health Assembly last week in a move that was widely seen as a counter to President Trump’s threats. He attempted to whitewash his country’s responsibility for the crisis, saying any investigation into his country’s role should be postponed until after it has passed, as previously reported by Voice of Europe.

    Similarly, Spahn spoke of the need to postpone any talk of repercussions until later. “In the middle of a crisis, when you’re putting out fires, you can’t talk about reforming the fire brigade,” he said. “First, we have to deal with the crisis, and only then talk about the WHO.”

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