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    Post Resources relating to sub-racial Classification of Non-Whites?

    Does anyone here have any resources relating to sub-racial classification of non-whites (particularly East Asians/Mongoloids)? Thanks.

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    What about Indians?

    The ones in India with thin narrow faces and thin lips and straight noses?

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    The biggest mongolid subgroup is the
    mongol or pure-mongolid which has the
    following general subraces:

    1. Palemongol (south east mongol):
    short, yellow-brown skin, rather round face, somewhat oblique but rather big eyes, flat smooth nose. Indokina, Malaysia, Indonesia, Filippines and s.w. China.

    2. Sinid (northeast mongol): light yellow-brown skin or pale yellowish skin, oblique narrow eyes, broad faces, flat narrow nose. China, Korea, Japan.

    3. Altaid (central-mongolid, tungid,
    buryat): Very broad and flat face, corse hair, flat narrow nose, very prominent malars, oblique narrow eyes. Tibet, western China, Mongolia and southern Siberia.

    4. Sibirid: thickset, short-legged,
    thick face, strong emfatic eye-fold,
    very narrow smooth nose with small
    nostrils, to survive cold climate.
    Sibirid aboriginal peoples like nenets,
    evenk, yakut and chukchi.

    5. Inuit: About the same as sibirid,
    but in North America.

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    You create a website with photos of each type.



    Originally posted by Ross
    The biggest mongolid subgroup is the
    mongol or pure-mongolid which has the
    following general subraces:

    1. Palemongol (south east mongol):
    short, yellow-brown skin, rather round face, somewhat oblique but rather big eyes, flat smooth nose. Indokina, Malaysia, Indonesia, Filippines and s.w. China.

    2. Sinid (northeast mongol): light yellow-brown skin or pale yellowish skin, oblique narrow eyes, broad faces, flat narrow nose. China, Korea, Japan.

    3. Altaid (central-mongolid, tungid,
    buryat): Very broad and flat face, corse hair, flat narrow nose, very prominent malars, oblique narrow eyes. Tibet, western China, Mongolia and southern Siberia.

    4. Sibirid: thickset, short-legged,
    thick face, strong emfatic eye-fold,
    very narrow smooth nose with small
    nostrils, to survive cold climate.
    Sibirid aboriginal peoples like nenets,
    evenk, yakut and chukchi.

    5. Inuit: About the same as sibirid,
    but in North America.

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    To be accurate, I have studied a fair bit of East Asian anthropology, and the Japanese are in fact a mix of Sinid and Altaid. The Koreans, while basically Sinid, also have a little Altaid blood, from the Manchus, who were/are ethnically Chinese (Sinid) but Altaic. I will work on finding some pictures.

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    These are Manchu women who are mostly Altaic.

    This is a fairly good drawing of a Manchu man:

    Note that he more closely resembles the Japanese than the Chinese.
    Last edited by Stríbog; Saturday, February 15th, 2003 at 09:43 PM.

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    I have some books on this in my collection, And im even waiting another book on classifying these types at my door soon, I wish my scanner worked, Its been fucked for 1½ years now, if it worked it would be so great then i could scan alot of interesting types, I will try get hold of a new scanner soon. Ross is your scanner working again? I cant remember what you told me.

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    here is some excerpts from a friend that may help
    but i thought the japs had more polynesian blood as they are generally longheaded and there is strong and evident mediterranean mixture in japs. well these description do not include north altaics and avar type asiatics who are perhaps Up remnants.
    if you have any links i will be gratefull. there are other types kumid and taigid.

    A. CAUSASIAN.

    *URALIC RACE:

    - light skin colour and light eyes with several hues and
    minor Mongoloid traits.
    - light, curly hair with reddish glinty
    - small stature
    - relatively small and moderately wide face with concavity
    of the nose bridge and thin lipps
    - Characteristic for Khants, Mansi, Selkups and some Altaics.


    B. NORTHASIAN MONGOLIDS.

    *BAIKAL RACE OR PALEO-MONGOLID RACE:

    - strong Mongolid features accompagny a very long, boad and
    flattish face
    - pronounced cheekbones
    - small nose with low depressed nose root
    - Characteristic for Jukagirs, Ewens and Ewenks.

    *CENTRALASIAN RACE:

    - stronger pigmentation of eye, hair and skin than the
    Baikal race
    - bristly hair and stronger beard growth
    - high and broad face with less marked cheekbones
    - high-rooted nose, fairly thick lipps and stronger
    Mongolid inclination
    - Characteristic for Burjats, Tuwins and Mongols.

    *AMUR-SACHALIN RACE:

    - strong pigmentation
    - smooth lank hair and stronger beard growth
    - high and broad face with pronounced cheekbones
    - less jutting neus, depressed nose root and thick lipps
    - Characteric for: Niwsjens and Ultsjens.


    *ARCTIC OR ESKIMO RACE:

    - dark or blueish black hair
    - strong beard growth
    - broad but also high face with high-rooted nose and
    straight nose bridge; thick lipps
    - Mongolid traits are attenuated.
    FG

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    Originally posted by HELLSTAR
    I have some books on this in my collection, And im even waiting another book on classifying these types at my door soon...
    Ooh ooh, what books might these be?

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    These descriptions would be great if they came with photo examples.



    Originally posted by asparukh
    here is some excerpts from a friend that may help
    but i thought the japs had more polynesian blood as they are generally longheaded and there is strong and evident mediterranean mixture in japs. well these description do not include north altaics and avar type asiatics who are perhaps Up remnants.
    if you have any links i will be gratefull. there are other types kumid and taigid.

    A. CAUSASIAN.

    *URALIC RACE:

    - light skin colour and light eyes with several hues and
    minor Mongoloid traits.
    - light, curly hair with reddish glinty
    - small stature
    - relatively small and moderately wide face with concavity
    of the nose bridge and thin lipps
    - Characteristic for Khants, Mansi, Selkups and some Altaics.


    B. NORTHASIAN MONGOLIDS.

    *BAIKAL RACE OR PALEO-MONGOLID RACE:

    - strong Mongolid features accompagny a very long, boad and
    flattish face
    - pronounced cheekbones
    - small nose with low depressed nose root
    - Characteristic for Jukagirs, Ewens and Ewenks.

    *CENTRALASIAN RACE:

    - stronger pigmentation of eye, hair and skin than the
    Baikal race
    - bristly hair and stronger beard growth
    - high and broad face with less marked cheekbones
    - high-rooted nose, fairly thick lipps and stronger
    Mongolid inclination
    - Characteristic for Burjats, Tuwins and Mongols.

    *AMUR-SACHALIN RACE:

    - strong pigmentation
    - smooth lank hair and stronger beard growth
    - high and broad face with pronounced cheekbones
    - less jutting neus, depressed nose root and thick lipps
    - Characteric for: Niwsjens and Ultsjens.


    *ARCTIC OR ESKIMO RACE:

    - dark or blueish black hair
    - strong beard growth
    - broad but also high face with high-rooted nose and
    straight nose bridge; thick lipps
    - Mongolid traits are attenuated.
    FG

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