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    “We’re going to war, bro” — declared a young US soldier from the US Army's celebrated 82nd Airborne Division. He gave reporters a confident two thumbs up as his unit moved out on its largest “fast deployment” in a decade at a moment Iran has promised to inflict a "historic nightmare" on the US in retaliation for the killing of Qasem Soleimani.

    Reuters provided a detailed account of the uneasy yet somewhat jovial calm before the storm atmosphere that prevailed on the airport tarmac at Fort Bragg, North Carolina as 600 soldiers and many hundreds more support crew flew out.

    While Kuwait is expected to be the first stop for most of the some 3,500 total paratroopers ordered to the region, the final destination is classified, and the Army is concerned over information leaks. For this reason the US Army confiscated the cell phones and any personal communication devices of those deploying on the transport planes.


    82nd Airborne rolled out Sunday, Jan.5. Image source: Spc. Hubert Delany III/U.S. Army via AP

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    Lie America Into War And Get Rich Doing It

    Richard Goldberg, who was "central" to the Trump administration's "hawkish Iran policies," was receiving a salary from a Sheldon Adelson-funded pro-Israel think tank throughout his time at the White House.

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    Onward, Christian Soldiers!

    The moral arguments for American Christians to join in and support the mass murder of Persians and Arabs in the Middle East will become even more aggressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    Do not stare yourselves blind at Israel. Iran is also a great enemy of the Sunni kingdoms of the Gulf; countries like Saudi Arabia, USE, and Qatar who also make up the bulk of the coalition fighting the Iran backed rebellion in Yemen. These countries are also known to be friendly with Israel, but that has nothing to do with any love or friendship between them but only with important shared interests. Like Iran and Hezbollah. I think that Saudi Arabia is as big an instigator of violence against Iran as Israel is, just that MBS has the good sense to hide a bit and blame it on the Jews.
    And how many Saudis are there in Trump's administration? How many were there in Obama's? Who has more control over U.S. politics, foreign and domestic, the Jews or the Saudis? When the Saudi monarchy has outlived its purpose it will be replaced. The Saudis play a nefarious role, yes, and they have a rivalry with Iran, but only in so far Tel Aviv will allow it (and of course it does). In the end both the U.S.A. and Saudi Arabia are Israeli proxies, with the U.S. being the main proxy of course.

    Still, some measures the monarchy can't sell to its subjects - like opening its airspace for Israeli or American air raids on Iranian targets nor letting the U.S. use Saudi airfields as a staging ground for an air offensive against Iran. That would mortally weaken the house of Saud.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte
    Iran is also a great enemy of the Sunni kingdoms of the Gulf; countries like Saudi Arabia, USE, and Qatar who also make up the bulk of the coalition fighting the Iran backed rebellion in Yemen. These countries are also known to be friendly with Israel, but that has nothing to do with any love or friendship between them but only with important shared interests.
    "Shared interests", I wouldn't use those words. The Arab elites, vulnerable (or is it susceptible?) to being bribed as they are, realized they can't beat an American backed Israel decades ago. If you can't beat them, join them goes the reasoning. Plus, the Hashemites and the house of Saud have historical ties to the Jews and the West.

    Also relevant: the Iranian-Israeli rivalry is one of choice, one of principle, for the Iranians that is - Iran has no more reason to fight against a country it doesn't share a border with than the Saudis for the sake of someone else, the Palestinians and Lebanese that is, but unlike the Saudis with the compromised House of Saud, the Iranians have a sovereign government. Objectively viewed, the Iranians have nothing more to gain out of a struggle against Israel than the Saudis do.

    The Iranian-backed rebellion in Yemen is a Saudi myth/justification for their invasion for which there's no proof and Iran has always denied involvement in Yemen's politics.

    And Qatar has moved up in the direction of Iran as a consequence of the Saudis/Jews/Turks losing the war against Syria - Qatar decided to cut its losses and struck an economic deal with Iran while dropping its support for jihadist gangs fighting against Assad. Hence the Saudis are upset with Qatar and have politically isolated the country in the Arab world. The Saudis even bribed the Egyptians amongst others to condemn Qatar in the harshest terms.
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    A blood-red flag was raised over the Jamkaran mosque in the Iranian holy city of Qom last week, one normally reserved to commemorate the death of martyrs. This time, it was intended as a call to arms. ‘We have unfurled this flag so that all [Shia] believers in the world gather around it to avenge Qassem Soleimani’s blood unjustly shed,’ said the mosque’s leader. In Tehran, there were calls for bloody retribution for the air strike that killed Iranian general Soleimani — and everywhere, talk of all-out war. If it was also intended to strike the fear of Allah into the hearts of Iran’s Sunni Arab enemies, it certainly succeeded.

    In Riyadh, there was panic. The Saudi crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, hastily sent an anti-war delegation to Washington and London. At home, his officials emphasised that the kingdom had not been consulted beforehand about the drone strike. ‘Please don’t blame us,’ was the message to Tehran. The Emirati foreign minister likewise called for restraint, warning of the devastating consequences for the Persian Gulf if war between the US and Iran were to break out.

    The foreign minister of the UAE’s arch rival Qatar, home to a US air base that would be a crucial launching pad for any American war against Iran, went one step further. He visited Tehran, met with President Hassan Rouhani and offered his condolences. ‘Qatar understands the deep pain and sadness that the Iranian people and government are enduring,’ he said.

    This unified Sunni Arab response to Soleimani’s murder is hardly what Washington had envisaged. After all, from the beginning of his presidency, Donald Trump’s Middle East strategy — orchestrated by his son-in-law, Jared Kushner — was aimed at fomenting an alliance between Israel and the Sunni Gulf Arab states (particularly Saudi Arabia and the Emirates) against Shia Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    Do not stare yourselves blind at Israel. Iran is also a great enemy of the Sunni kingdoms of the Gulf; countries like Saudi Arabia, USE, and Qatar who also make up the bulk of the coalition fighting the Iran backed rebellion in Yemen.
    Chlod is essentially right with everything he said. Now look at this map:


    It's not that the tiny states on the peninsula have a choice, they're either "allied" with Saudi Arabia or they suffer the fate of Yemen. The Yemeni people ousted the Saudi-backed govt LONG before the "Iran-backed Houthi" rebels appeared on the scene. The UAE shits its pants just like Oman and Qatar does, because they've long understood that Saudi Arabia has no greater interest in neighboring small states on "their" island. Yemen only became the first target for a coup to be absorbed because unlike the others it's shit poor and they thought they'd had an easy go on it.
    Soleimani was in Qatar just before he was shot to pieces. Qatar (or at least 'forces' within Qatar) too understood that the SA is not exactly a good friend, Kuweit, like Iraq, learned long ago what it means to be "liberated" by the US. See above, a high-profile airborne unit of 3500 US soldiers re-invade Kuweit now, the location alone is quite a statement of the US (to both Qatar and Iraq in addition to the "front target" Iran) that this is LONG not over. Is Kuweit going to play along, and risk being flattened in the process? It's Kuweit city and a bit of land around it, one salve of rockets (by Iraq, Iran, friendly fire from SA/US) on the US base or in "defense" of it and Kuweit is gone. They're fucked either way, unless they rigorously deny the US troops be stationed there. Can they? Will they?

    Jordan always rejected direct involvement, in Syria (although they had some troops under SA command there, but not many and no material), in Iraq, in everything, but they too dont make SA exactly friends to them, because of all their pre-islamic archeology projects which they show off with pride, Wahhabists have no use for that whatsover, quite the opposite, see the war on cultural sites in Egypt (Muslim Brotherhood/Al-Qaida/Wahhabist Morsi regime even started to demolish the pyramids), in Tunesia, in Afghanistan (blowing up of Buddhist temples and the mountain statues), the joint US-IS operation to flatten Mossul (which brought up probably the grave of Daniel instead, of which literally no one has any interest to look what's inside, not the Sunni, simply for being pre-islamic, not the Israelis, because they corrupted and twisted Daniel's prophecies and history, not the west/US for the same reason) and other ancient sites, the joint US-IS-Turkish bombing of Palmyra etc pp, and Trump now threatened to destroy cultural sites in Iran. It's all no coincidence, or "accidents", it's all part of the plan. A Sunni/Wahhabist plan to eradicate everything pre-islamic from the region. Apart from that the US always left a trail of destruction of culture behind wherever it came, in Germany, in Japan, in Korea, in Vietnam, everywhere cultural sites and objects were a declared target.

    Look further west into Libya. Turkey marches in to back the UN-"govt" (they govern nothing, not even the district in which they reside lol), SA and UAE back General Haftar, who just in time took control of Sirte before Turkey arrived, no one of the "players" care that the Libyan people back Gaddafi's son, but anyway, there grows another proxy war that will also backfire on the other battle grounds if it lasts for longer in Libya. Because there shows already the rift between SA claiming hegemony over the "Arab" World (the peninsula and all of North Africa), while Turkey still dreams of a resurrected Osman Empire (which used to include parts of NA, too and also Libya). So their alliance elsewhere is fragile anyway and rather 3D chess, because Turkey->NATO ---> US allied with SA, it's certainly not shared interests in any shape or form, rather mutual abuse for own interests.

    Pakistan is also part of the British Commonwealth (yeah.... lol), and the workings of UK are well known within the region. For some reason, it's always British secret service that provides the last detail before a plot is carried out (also the assassination of Soleimani), sometimes the Australians get the "fame". Pakistan will be made a "back-base" like with the war against Afghanistan and they cant do much about it unless they revolt and risk a civil war. Could well be, but then they'd end up like Afghanistan. If you want a dark horse it's rather Afghanistan. The "control" of the westen forces there is not so tight as they wished it was, and the Taliban had proven that the moment they consolidate they simply take the entire region around and north of Kabul over night and it takes the western forces weeks and months to take it back again. The really interesting question is what are the Taliban (and 'official Afghanistan' too, they want all the foreign forces out as well) going to do if Afghanistan is being abused as a base to attack Iran? In any case, the Taliban would be a literal pain in the ass of the US, regardless of whether they only make use of the diverted attention or actually support Iran.


    These countries are also known to be friendly with Israel, but that has nothing to do with any love or friendship between them but only with important shared interests. Like Iran and Hezbollah. I think that Saudi Arabia is as big an instigator of violence against Iran as Israel is
    There's a lot of Jewish blood flowing in the veins of the House of Saud, not sure if there is really so much of a difference. Plus the history of Wahhabism with Jews involved a lot in its creation. It's far more intertwined than it would seem on the surface.

    And Israeli hate towards Iran is ancient. It's not new or recent. Israel hated Babylon, Israel hated Mesopotamia, Israel hated Persia, and now they hate Iran. The Jews celebrate the genocidal destruction of ancient (Aryan) Persia to this day as "Purim".

    Maybe they can make someone else do the "obvious aggression" today, but it is Israeli hatred that drives it. Iran has not attacked anyone in 200 years. There is no reason whatsoever to consider Iran a threat to anyone. But like Germany back then, Iran is built up as "Satan himself" and the whole world is infected with this hatred and when Israel shouts "Onwards my goy...äh, christian soldiers, get them", the retarded West does.
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    Iran May Have a Fleet of Communist Killer Dolphins



    Source: military.com

    Iran has some surprising weapons at its disposal. In a 2002 U.S. military exercise that pitted Iran against an invasion from an American task force, the general in command of the opposition was retired Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper. He used motorcycles, small fast-attack boats, land-based missile batteries and even suicide attacks against the Americans.

    But he apparently forgot to use Iran's killer dolphin units.

    In 2000, the Islamic Republic acquired a number of dolphins from Russia, ones specially trained to attack enemy ships, according to the BBC. The dolphins had originally been trained by the Soviet Union. When funding for the project ran out, the dolphins were acquired by their former trainer, who moved them to a dolphinarium.

    But public interest waned, and their caretaker was forced to sell them when he ran out of food.

    "If I were a sadist, then I could have remained in Sevastopol," Boris Zhurid, their trainer, told the Russian newspaper Komsomolskaya Pravda. "But I cannot bear to see my animals starve. ... We're out of medicine, which costs thousands of dollars, and have no more fish or food supplements."

    In 1991, after the fall of the Soviet Union, the dolphin unit was sent to the Crimean Peninsula from a base in the Russian Pacific area. There, the dolphins were trained to kill enemy frogmen using harpoons mounted on their backs. They would also swim at enemy ships in suicide attacks while carrying explosive sea mines, as they were able to distinguish between Russian and American submarines by the sounds their propulsion systems make underwater.

    The highly trained killer dolphins were moved from the Black Sea to the Persian Gulf after Iran purchased them -- for reasons unknown. According to the Russian newspaper, Zhurid's work, which supposedly continued in Iran after the 2000 sale, was solely of a military nature.

    Depending on the types of dolphins used by Zhurid, the original animals could still be alive, as dolphins have a lifespan of 50 years or more. He could also have trained more killer dolphins for use against Western shipping.

    While the United States protested the sales of arms (or, in this case, killer dolphins) to Iran, Zhurid cared only about his dolphins.

    "I am prepared to go to Allah, or even to the devil, as long as my animals will be OK there," he said.
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    Germany confirms Trump made trade threat to Europe over Iran policy

    The US threatened to impose 25% tariffs on cars to push Europeans to initiate proceedings against Iran for violating the nuclear deal, the German defence minister has confirmed.

    “This threat exists,” said the German defence minister, Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, at a press conference in London. She was asked about an article in the Washington Post that claimed Trump had secretly warned France, Germany and the UK that the US would impose a “25% tariffs on European cars” if they did not activate the mechanism for the settlement of disputes (MRD) of the Iranian international nuclear agreement reached in Vienna in 2015. [...]

    Trump made his tariffs threat to Europe relatively recently and European diplomats insist they had already made the decision in principle to trigger the dispute mechanism because of previous Iranian steps away from the deal, but had not announced the move in deference to a request from China. As a result they claim the Trump threat did not push Europe into abandoning its policy of trying to keep the nuclear deal with Iran alive.

    But the threat is a further insight into Trump’s modus operandi with Europe – in effect using threats of economic sanctions and the power of the dollar to try to force Europe to follow US foreign policy. [...] Iran continued to abide by the agreement until last summer, when it began openly breaching some of its limits, saying it would not be bound by the deal if it saw none of its promised economic benefits.

    After the airstrike on 3 January that killed Gen Qassem Suleimani, the architect of Iran’s regional military operations, Iran said it would abandon all restrictions in the nuclear deal. Previously it has appeared that Iran has only modestly increased its nuclear activity. In recent months it has boosted its level of enrichment of uranium to 4.5% – higher than the 3.67% limit set by the agreement but far from the 20% enrichment it was engaged in before the deal. Uranium must be enriched to 90% to be used in a nuclear weapon. [...]


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    20,000 US Troops Have Surged Into Mideast Since Last Spring To ‘Counter Iran’

    The top commander for US forces in the Middle East told a gathering of Marines and sailors during a speech aboard the USS Bataan on Thursday they could be there for “quite a while”.

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