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    Denmark Scientists Reconstruct Lola from 5,700 Year Old Chewing Gum

    I just read this interesting news story on a human reconstruction from DNA recovered from birch bark ‘chewing gum’. I’d love to hear your thoughts. They claim Lola had blue eyes, dark hair and dark skin!

    https://gizmodo.com/scientists-recon...-in-1840481633

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    Theis Jensen, the primary author on a study about the discovery say they need more genomes before they can say anything more concrete about the skin color.

    It was the same deal with the Cheddar man when it went world-wide, it turned out he was most likely not dark after all (Or it was not certain).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    Theis Jensen, the primary author on a study about the discovery say they need more genomes before they can say anything more concrete about the skin color.

    It was the same deal with the Cheddar man when it went world-wide, it turned out he was most likely not dark after all (Or it was not certain).
    Thank you. It does seem nearly impossible to determine with DNA alone but I’m not a scientist. I certainly appreciate your reply.

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    I would think "dark skin" looks like this:



    The original Berber phenotype related with mtDNA haplogroup U5 (U is a subclade of R). Saami interestingly also belong into the clade, and I'd assume the nomadic tribes of Siberia do too. U5 is widespread from the Asian steppes and across Europe and is assumed a remnant of the hunter-gatherer populations, which were amended/replaced by the Neolithic populations.

    Imho, the "black skin" claim comes from that modern-day "Berbers" can also be pitch-black, even though their share of U is next to nonexistent. The import of U haplogroup into (north) Africa might well be not older than the original expansion of U, since both U and R are basically nonexistent in African / negroid populations. And the "enthusiasm" to hail the first Brits as black skinned may well be more a media hype than what the scientist said, although they have to rely on modern-present phenotypes to interprete their finds. But black Berbers are a cultural expansion, not a genetic one, so to use the variety of today's Berber phenotypes is adventurous rather than factual.

    Of course, the Out of Africa theory is "dogma", and so finds usually are interpreted to fit this dogma, even when the actual data suggests otherwise. Same with bipedalism. Even though it's proven wrong with many data, they still promote the nonsense that it first occured in the African steppes. The oldest specimen with the physical conditions (spine, leg conjunction etc) for bipedalism has been found in south eastern Europe, many finds suggest that "living on the ground" rather than in trees developed at the rivers in Europe/western Asia. Nothing of this however changes the invention of the Out of Africa theory, and every find is quenched back into this nonsense.
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    Thank you velvet. Your reply was helpful and informative!

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