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    Scottish Nationalist Party / SNP



    NICOLA STURGEON and her husband walked away with a huge win for SNP on election day last week, but what tragic admission did the party leader make about her husband?



    Nicola Sturgeon fought to win the 59 Westminster Parliamentary constituencies in
    Scotland - in the end winning 48 constituencies. Politically, she is renowned for her no-nonsense and straight-talking attitude. But on Loose Women she was left a little flustered when the panellists asked her questions about her personal life. So what did the Scottish National Party leader reveal about one exchange about her husband Peter Murrell on the show?

    Nicola Sturgeon, 49, is a Scottish politician who is currently serving as the fifth First Minister of Scotland and leader of the Scottish National Party since November 2014. She is the first woman to hold the positions. Ms Sturgeon first became an MSP in Scotland in 1999 first as an additional member for the Glasgow electoral region, then as a member for Glasgow Southside in 2007.

    She was ranked as the 50th most powerful woman in the world in 2016 and as the second most powerful in the UK by Forbes. Politics is important in her career and her personal life. Her husband, Peter Murrell, who she began dating in 2003, is the Chief Executive Officer of the SNP. The couple announced their engagement in January 2010 and were married in July 2010.





    So what was the awkward exchange about her husband she expressed on Loose Women? The panellists on Loose Women asked the Scottish politician how she unwinds from her job. She could only laugh awkwardly when suggestively quizzed on how she chooses to de-stress. Ms Sturgeon then composed herself and said that she reads a lot in her down time. But then the follow up came: “What about Peter, your husband?” The whole panel descended into laughter and Ms Sturgeon said: “Yeah, he can de-stress me from time to time.”


    The panel also raised an old photo of Ms Sturgeon from school. She shared how her classmates thought she was “weird” for getting involved in politics. As she saw the image, Ms Sturgeon who was then sipping tea said: “I wish this was gin.”


    The 49-year-old later opened up about not having any children. The subject of children is something Ms Sturgeon has faced throughout her career.She said: “From time to time, yes [I was judged for not having children]. “I was constantly asked about it. For a period of my life, almost every interview I did I got asked that question. “It’s okay in your 20s and 30s, but later on it becomes a bit more intrusive. “I went public about the fact I had a miscarriage some years ago. “That was in part to play a small part in removing the stigma around miscarriage but also it was a way of, I suppose, me trying to stop getting asked that question. “Men in politics that don’t have children very rarely get asked the same question.”


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    Scottish Nationalism is a quite recent phenomena. It makes little sense to trade UK membership for EU membership and the alienation that would entail.

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    Payback for BREXIT


    13 Mar 2016

    The SNP Is NOT A Nationalist Party, And That’s Why They’ll Campaign To Give Scotland To The EU



    In some ways I would like a different 2016 referendum question, such as: do you want the United Kingdom to have independence from the European Union?


    Above all this 2016 referendum is about whether we should be an independent country or part of a bigger political union.


    Independent countries make their own laws, have their own supreme courts, their own currencies and monetary policies and crucially they control their borders.


    Independence is normality. It is what the vast majority of countries in the world are. There are many more independent states today than there were thirty or fifty years ago. But the simple truth is that none of the criteria that I have mentioned are possible for a member state of the EU. You cannot be an independent nation and a member of this Union.


    Yet north of the border a bizarre argument has been raging for some years. The Scottish National Party (SNP), not satisfied with having totally distorted the general election, are at it again. At their spring conference this weekend their leader Nicola Sturgeon has said that she wishes to relaunch the Scottish independence campaign. This attempt to cloud the UK’s referendum on June 23rd is based on a false idea that England is strongly anti-EU and that Scotland is pro-EU. The truth is
    that gap is getting much narrower with time.


    But the biggest falsehood and one that all of the media studiously refuse to question is that Sturgeon says that she wants an independent Scotland to be one that has left the UK and joined the European Union.


    Sturgeon is happy for Scotland to be a tiny member state, even province, of the emerging EU state; not in control of her laws or her territorial waters; and potentially to be forced to sign up to a treaty that will commit Scotland to join the euro.


    Both politically and economically I rather doubt whether the EU would welcome Scotland given that the SNP’s economics was based on a separatist Scotland surviving with oil priced at $113 a barrel. The market now fluctuates between $30-$40 dollars a barrel. Scotland and the EU would be forced to take Greek style austerity measures. Scotland inside the EU would not be independent. I hope this referendum exposes the SNP for what they are. They are not a nationalist party. They will be campaigning on June 23rd against independence for the United Kingdom, including Scotland. The idea that post-Brexit Nicola Sturgeon would lead the referendum against genuine independence is laughable both politically and economically.



    The 2014 Scottish referendum was accepted as a once in a lifetime event and the result was binding. The SNP lost, but are now welching on the deal. But they haven't quite realised that there is no such thing as "Independence" in the EU....and where it is heading.



    The SNP has its eyes on, it thinks, the huge amounts of EU money that will come its way. Plus top jobs for their laddies and lasses, of course.



    should the ordinary man in the Scottish street be messed about by the political games of nonentities with delusions beyond grandeur?






    The SNP Is NOT A Nationalist Party, And That’s Why They’ll Campaign To Give Scotland To The EU

    17 XII 2019.

    The example of the Rep of Ireland should be enough to go by:

    20% of Irish population ...

    foreign-born,


    the Banking crisis and then EU rules: Financial Sanctions Updates 2018 | Central Bank of Ireland
    www.centralbank.ie/.../international-financial-sanctions/financial-sanctions-updates-2018
    There is a legal obligation to comply with EU Council Regulations relating to financial sanctions as soon as they are adopted. Once a person or entity has been sanctioned under EU Financial Sanctions, there is a legal obligation not to transfer funds or make funds or economic resources available, directly or indirectly, to that person or entity.

    Independence and EU membership are a contradiction. You can have or the other but not both.

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    Brussels' secret plot to punish Boris exposed as EU leaders plan huge stitch-up with SNP


    THE EU are planning to punish the UK following its exit from the bloc early next year by offering Scotland an easy route back into the bloc - in what an SNP MP described as "putting a little finger up to the rest of the UK".




    The SNP’s MP Pete Wishart has warned
    Boris Johnson that the EU wants to spite the UK following its departure from the European bloc next year. He said that “warm and constructive” talks between the SNP and leading European figures showed that Brussels wants to welcome an independent Scotland into the EU. Speaking to Adrian Chiles on Radio 5 Live, Mr Wishart claimed that one of the reasons behind this was the fact that it would represent a “little finger up to the rest of the UK”.


    Chiles pressed the SNP MP on whether the EU even wants an independent Scotland, amid growing demands for a second independence referendum north of the border following the election. The radio presenter said: “The EU doesn’t want you as an independent Scotland. You know what it would unleash in terms of Catalonia let alone the economic reasons like the deficit.


    "What makes you think you could ever be independent inside the EU?"


    Mr Wishart appeared to claim that talks between the SNP and EU leaders had already informally taken place.
    He said: “Well you’ve not been paying attention to large swathes of European leaders who are being as constructive as possible for a route back for Scotland to join the EU.

    "They do it for two reasons. Firstly, Scotland is a resource-rich country and we are totally aligned with regulatory requirements of the rest of the EU.

    "And secondly, it would stick a little finger up to the rest of the UK who just left this Union and here we are going coming back into the EU.

    "We are hearing some very very warm words from leader inside the EU.

    “We see no issue if we are taken out of the EU at the end of January of going back as fast as possible."


    Scotland held an independence referendum back in September 2014, with the No campaign winning 55% of the votes. Although that vote was described as a "once-in-a-generation," Ms Sturgeon is demanding a fresh referendum following last week's election triumph. Ms Sturgeon said that there was an "unarguable" mandate for a new vote after her SNP won 48 of Scotland's 59 seats in last week's general election. This morning, she said a document containing her arguments and draft legislation will be sent to the UK government today. The first minister says she wants to hold the second referendum in the second half of 2020, and believes the election result has made the case for this "overwhelmingly clear".


    Prime Minister Boris Johnson remains opposed to holding another referendum



    Could some one give the EU a map how could Scotland be part of the EU other than name only there happens to be a bit of land between them and there holy land the EU it's called England and as all traffic from Scotland to the EU and back come's through England I can't see that changing any time soon.



    Brussels' plot to punish Boris Johnson with huge stitch-up ...

    21 XII 2019.


    High time PM Boris and those in charge of the UK HoC got real and passed a law to deal with ‘wreckers and abstentionists’. Also let the EUssr, who have more nerve than sense, know that two can play this game and that they the EU will lose.


    Abstentionism is standing for election to a deliberative assembly while refusing to take up any seats won or otherwise participate in the assembly's business.


    Wreckers – members like Ian Blackford leader of the HoC SNP party whose only contribution is a chant for Scottish Independence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagdmesser View Post
    The example of the Rep of Ireland should be enough to go by:

    20% of Irish population ...

    foreign-born,


    the Banking crisis and then EU rules: Financial Sanctions Updates 2018 | Central Bank of Ireland
    www.centralbank.ie/.../international-financial-sanctions/financial-sanctions-updates-2018
    There is a legal obligation to comply with EU Council Regulations relating to financial sanctions as soon as they are adopted. Once a person or entity has been sanctioned under EU Financial Sanctions, there is a legal obligation not to transfer funds or make funds or economic resources available, directly or indirectly, to that person or entity.

    Independence and EU membership are a contradiction. You can have or the other but not both.
    I take it that there is some migration between Ireland and the main British Isle.

    The SNP sounds a bit like what I read about the Catalonian Separatists.

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    Foreign-born population of the United Kingdom


    Size of the foreign-born population in UK



    At the time of the UK census conducted in April 2001, 8.3 percent of the country's population were foreign-born.
    [2] This was substantially less than that of major immigration countries such as Australia (23 percent), Canada (19.3 percent) and the USA (12.3 percent).[3] In 2005, the foreign-born population was estimated at 9.1 percent, compared to a European Union average of 8.6 percent.[4] The 2011 census recorded 7,337,139 foreign-born residents in England, corresponding to 13.8 percent of the population.[5]The foreign-born population of Wales was recorded as 167,871 (5.5 percent),[6] Scotland's as 369,284 (7 percent)[7] and Northern Ireland's as 119,186 (6.6 percent),[8]making the total foreign-born population of the UK 7,993,480.[9][10] Figures for each census since 1951 are given in the table below.


    A 2010 estimate for the whole of the UK shows that 4.76 million people (7.7 percent) were born outside the EU and 2.24 million (3.6 percent) were born in another EU member state.[11]


    The Office for National Statistics produces annual estimates of the size of the UK population by country of birth, based on the Annual Population Survey. The estimates for 2018 show that 9.3 million people (14 percent of the usual resident population) were born abroad.[12]


    Census Foreign-born
    population
    Percentage increase
    over previous decade
    Percentage of
    total population
    1951[3] 2,118,600 4.2
    1961[3] 2,573,500 21.5 4.9
    1971[3] 3,190,300 24.0 5.8
    1981[3] 3,429,100 7.5 6.2
    1991[3] 3,835,400 11.8 6.7
    2001[3] 4,896,600 27.7 8.3
    2011[9] 7,993,480 63.0 12.7


    Countries of origin


    The table below lists the places of birth of UK residents according to the 2001 Census, as reported by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development.[13] The table also lists population estimates of the foreign-born population for the top 60 foreign countries of birth in the period January 2010 to December 2010, published by the Office for National Statistics.[14][15]
    In 2001, the five most common foreign countries of birth were the Republic of Ireland, India, Pakistan, Germany and the United States respectively.[13] In 2010, the most common foreign countries of birth were India, Poland (up from 18th in 2001), Pakistan, the Republic of Ireland and Germany respectively. While those born in Germany constitute one of the UK's largest foreign-born groups, many are British nationals who were born in Germany to British military personnel based there.[16][17][15] The United States dropped to eighth place behind South Africa and Bangladesh, despite growth in the size of the US-born population.[14]
    The period between 2001 and 2010 saw significant change in the UK's foreign-born population. In particular, the 2004 and 2007 enlargements of the European Union have led to mass migration from Bulgaria, Latvia, Romania, Poland, Slovakia and Lithuania.[14] The number of Poland-born people resident in the UK increased from 60,711 in 2001 to an estimated 532,000 in the year to December 2010, whilst the population born in Lithuania increased from 4,363 to an estimated 87,000.[14] The most significant decrease in a foreign-born population resident in the UK between 2001 and 2010 is in the number of those originating from the Republic of Ireland. Whilst 533,901 people born in the Republic of Ireland were resident in the UK in 2001, this is estimated to have declined to 405,000 by 2010.[14]



    Country of birth Population (2001 census) Population (2015 UN Estimate)[18] Corresponding article(s)
    United Kingdom 53,923,642 56,254,898 British people; Cornish people, English people, Manx people, Northern Irish people, Scottish people, Welsh people
    India 467,634 776,603 Indians in the United Kingdom
    Poland 60,711 703,050 Poles in the United Kingdom
    Pakistan 321,167 540,495 Pakistanis in the United Kingdom
    Republic of Ireland 537,108 503,288 Irish migration to Great Britain
    Germany 266,136 322,220 Germans in the United Kingdom
    Bangladesh 154,362 230,143 Bangladeshis in the United Kingdom
    South Africa 141,405 218,732 South Africans in the United Kingdom
    Nigeria 88,378 216,268 Nigerians in the United Kingdom
    United States 158,434 212,150 Americans in the United Kingdom
    China 51,078 182,628 Chinese in the United Kingdom
    Jamaica 146,401 172,829 Jamaicans in the United Kingdom
    Italy 107,244 151,790 Italians in the United Kingdom
    Kenya 129,633 151,073 Kenyans in the United Kingdom
    France 96,281 149,872 French in the United Kingdom
    Philippines 40,118 139,570 Filipinos in the United Kingdom
    Sri Lanka 67,938 138,752 Sri Lankans in the United Kingdom
    Australia 107,871 135,786 Australians in the United Kingdom
    Zimbabwe 49,524 132,942 Zimbabweans in the United Kingdom
    Hong Kong 96,445 119,990 Hong Kongers in the United Kingdom
    Lithuania 4,363 116,861 Lithuanians in the United Kingdom
    Somalia 43,532 110,775 Somalis in the United Kingdom
    Ghana 56,112 102,837 Ghanaians in the United Kingdom
    Turkey 54,079 100,956 Turks in the United Kingdom
    Portugal 36,555 98,967 Portuguese in the United Kingdom
    Spain 54,482 91,179 Spaniards in the United Kingdom
    Iran 42,494 91,087 Iranians in the United Kingdom
    Romania 7,631 89,402 Romanians in the United Kingdom
    Canada 72,518 86,415 Canadians in the United Kingdom
    Cyprus 77,673 84,815 Cypriots in the United Kingdom
    Iraq 32,236 80,939 Iraqis in the United Kingdom
    Malaysia 49,886 75,182 Malaysians in the United Kingdom
    Netherlands 40,438 68,489 Dutch in the United Kingdom
    Afghanistan 14,875 68,256 Afghans in the United Kingdom
    Slovakia 5,273 67,781
    New Zealand 58,286 67,276 New Zealanders in the United Kingdom
    Latvia 4,275 66,046
    Uganda 55,213 65,447 Ugandans in the United Kingdom
    Hungary 13,159 56,166 Hungarians in the United Kingdom
    Brazil 15,215 56,055 Brazilians in the United Kingdom
    Nepal 5,943 54,695 Nepalis in the United Kingdom
    Bulgaria 5,351 51,875 Bulgarians in the United Kingdom
    Thailand 16,257 47,389 Thais in the United Kingdom
    Singapore 40,474 45,351 Singaporeans in the United Kingdom
    Mauritius 27,078 45,123 Mauritians in the United Kingdom
    Russia 15,160 42,491 Russians in the United Kingdom
    Czech Republic 12,220 41,605 Czechs in the United Kingdom
    Japan 37,535 40,127 Japanese in the United Kingdom
    Greece 35,169 39,700 Greeks in the United Kingdom
    Tanzania 32,630 38,691 Tanzanians in the United Kingdom
    Saudi Arabia 8,789 36,148
    Sweden 22,525 35,055 Swedes in the United Kingdom
    Egypt 24,700 33,686 Egyptians in the United Kingdom
    Vietnam 23,347 32,429 Vietnamese in the United Kingdom
    Malta 30,178 31,758 Maltese in the United Kingdom
    Zambia 21,529 30,897
    Belgium 21,668 29,142
    Colombia 12,331 27,691 Colombians in the United Kingdom
    Algeria 10,670 26,826 Algerians in the United Kingdom
    Trinidad and Tobago 21,283 25,364 Trinidadians in the United Kingdom
    Sierra Leone 17,048 25,281 Sierra Leoneans in the United Kingdom
    Denmark 18,695 24,972
    Morocco 12,348 23,519 Moroccans in the United Kingdom
    Guyana 20,872 23,458 Guyanese in the United Kingdom
    Ukraine 11,913 23,414 Ukrainians in the United Kingdom
    Austria 19,503 21,698 Austrians in the United Kingdom
    Switzerland 16,010 21,458
    Democratic Republic of the Congo 8,569 20,971 Congolese in the United Kingdom
    Barbados 21,601 20,271 Barbadians in the United Kingdom
    Sudan 10,671 19,758 Sudanese in the United Kingdom
    Israel 11,892 19,608 Israelis in the United Kingdom
    Yemen 12,508 19,405 Yemenis in the United Kingdom
    Eritrea 6,561 19,031 Eritreans in the United Kingdom
    North Korea 22 18,697
    Norway 13,798 18,236
    Malawi 12,340 17,871
    Libya 9,141 17,684
    Lebanon 10,459 17,128 Lebanese in the United Kingdom
    Ethiopia 7,775 16,654 Ethiopians in the United Kingdom
    Angola 5,914 15,712
    Albania 2,314 14,688 Albanians in the United Kingdom
    Finland 11,322 14,325
    Kuwait 5,882 14,054
    Burma (Myanmar) 9,924 13,064
    United Arab Emirates 5,406 12,314 Emiratis in the United Kingdom
    Gambia 3,924 12,194
    Gibraltar 11,830 11,955 Gibraltarians in the United Kingdom
    Argentina 6,796 11,339
    Cameroon 3,233 11,009
    Mexico 5,049 10,502 Mexicans in the United Kingdom
    Indonesia 6,711 10,344 Indonesians in the United Kingdom
    Grenada 9,783 10,009 Grenadians in the United Kingdom
    Syria 4,168 9,950 Syrians in the United Kingdom
    Saint Lucia 8,265 9,836
    Venezuela 3,996 9,834
    Congo 3,266 9,561
    Ecuador 3,035 9,422 Ecuadorians in the United Kingdom
    Estonia 2,005 9,361
    Croatia 6,992 9,029
    Serbia 31,244
    (including Kosovo)
    9,008 Serbs in the United Kingdom
    Ivory Coast (Côte d'Ivoire) 2,794 8,535 Ivoirians in the United Kingdom
    Bosnia-Herzegovina 6,692 8,469
    Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 7,091 8,008
    Montserrat 7,983 7,828 Montserratians in the United Kingdom
    Peru 4,066 7,787 Peruvians in the United Kingdom
    Chile 5,131 7,673 Chileans in the United Kingdom
    Dominica 6,739 6,851
    South Korea 12,310 6,767 Koreans in the United Kingdom
    Fiji 3,464 6,754 Fijians in the United Kingdom
    Tunisia 3,070 6,606
    Mozambique 3,353 6,368 Mozambicans in the United Kingdom
    Jordan 3,115 6,321
    Bahrain 4,185 6,261
    Saint Kitts and Nevis 6,519 6,067
    Brunei 2,782 5,731
    Kazakhstan 871 5,432
    Burundi 2,022 4,820
    Rwanda 2,373 4,781
    Belarus 1,154 4,734 Belarusians in the United Kingdom
    Bermuda 2,986 4,602
    Bolivia 1,143 4,046 Bolivians in the United Kingdom
    Antigua and Barbuda 3,891 3,995 Antiguans in the United Kingdom
    Seychelles 2,905 3,878
    Liberia 1,583 3,844
    Botswana 2,051 3,513
    Oman 2,024 3,432
    Moldova 455 3,417
    Georgia 551 3,388 Georgians in the United Kingdom
    Macedonia 1,285 3,170 Macedonians in the United Kingdom
    Azerbaijan 561 3,126 Azerbaijanis in the United Kingdom
    Saint Helena 2,355 2,917
    Uzbekistan 521 2,864
    Qatar 1,062 2,706
    Cuba 1,083 2,665
    Namibia 1,230 2,649
    Guinea-Bissau 381 2,572
    Guinea 265 2,529
    Slovenia 1,228 2,298
    Iceland 1,552 2,225
    Senegal 723 2,135
    Luxembourg 1,222 2,092
    Bahamas 1,797 2,071
    East Timor 1 2,008 Timorese in Northern Ireland
    Mongolia 293 1,821 Mongolians in the United Kingdom
    Armenia 589 1,790 Armenians in the United Kingdom
    Togo 553 1,743
    Swaziland 863 1,596
    Dominican Republic 523 1,485
    Uruguay 963 1,472
    Belize 1,233 1,452
    Cambodia 706 1,304
    Cape Verde N/A 1,279
    Papua New Guinea 1,057 1,199
    Kyrgyzstan 133 1,132
    Madagascar 789 1,121
    Guatemala 499 1,049
    São Tomé and Príncipe 102 1,028
    Falkland Islands 1,044 968
    El Salvador 595 948
    Cayman Islands 369 914
    Lesotho 331 851
    Paraguay 493 816
    Turkmenistan 99 784
    Costa Rica 370 777
    Panama 492 769
    Laos 464 716
    Honduras 420 683
    Benin 239 678
    Aruba 0 678
    Anguilla 498 583
    Djibouti 237 486
    Suriname 264 476
    Bhutan 86 463
    Tajikistan 101 455
    Monaco 225 430
    Mali 121 411
    Nicaragua 223 406
    Maldives 200 402
    Gabon 135 393
    Chad 183 371
    Solomon Islands 309 364
    Haiti 164 340
    Equatorial Guinea 51 312
    Tonga 143 298
    British Virgin Islands 163 292
    Burkina Faso 99 237
    Samoa 125 233
    Mauritania 28 233
    Niger 96 217
    Kiribati 179 182
    Central African Republic 312 171
    Vanuatu 135 168
    Comoros 62 154
    United States Virgin Islands 124 134
    Andorra 35 63
    Liechtenstein 23 31
    Nauru 14 30
    Taiwan 6,588 N/A
    West Bank(Palestinian territories) 2,483 N/A
    Macau 1,490 N/A
    Netherlands Antilles 1,151 N/A
    Puerto Rico 306 N/A
    Guam 61 N/A
    Turks and Caicos Islands 56 N/A
    Cook Islands 37 N/A
    American Samoa 30 N/A
    British Indian Ocean Territory 19 N/A
    Tuvalu 10 N/A
    San Marino 9 N/A
    Norfolk Island 4 N/A
    Micronesia, Federated States of 3 N/A
    Niue 3 N/A
    Pitcairn Islands 3 N/A
    Palau 3 N/A
    Cocos (Keeling) Islands 0 N/A
    Northern Mariana Islands 0 N/A
    Tokelau 0 N/A
    Vatican City 0 N/A






    These statistics are almost a decade behind reality. Recently heard that there were more Italian immigrants than Irish immigrants in the UK.


    No accurate data on people of Scottish ethnicity around the world exists but as well as Scottish people living in Scotland, there are thought to be around 2 million people of Scottish descent living in the rest of the United Kingdom.
    Scotland Population 2019


    worldpopulationreview.com/countries/scotland-population/








    Scottish independence: The Scots in England who want ...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27655496
    07/08/2014 · There are more Scots in England than any city in Scotland. It might sound surprising, but according to the latest census figures, there are about 750,000 people born in Scotland who live south of the border. That's more than the population of Edinburgh or Glasgow.

    750,000 people born in Scotland who live south of the border” in England but because their permanent residence is outside Scotland they would not have the right to vote in a 2nd Independence Referendum.More likely they would vote the wrong way.






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    Top EU lawmaker raises prospect of easy Scottish return to EU



    An independent Scotland could return to the European Union after Brexit, says David McAllister. The German chair of the EU parliament's foreign affairs committee has hinted he's ready to assist.



    McAllister, asked by the Hanover-based RND news portal Sunday if Scotland could "very quickly" acquire EU membership, replied that such accession would be "presumably shorter" than the bloc's procedure for outside candidates. "Scottish institutions are already asking me whether I can be their contact person in Brussels after Brexit," said McAllister, adding that Scottish universities were keen to retain EU research and academic incentives and that he studied the Scottish media "daily."



    A post-Brexit Scottish accession bid was, however, "currently a theoretical question," said McAllister who has German and British nationalities, is a member of Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats (CDU) and chairs the European Parliament's committee on Foreign Affairs.



    The "first prerequisite," he said, was whether Edinburgh under First Minister Nicola Sturgeon prevailed with a second independence referendum in 2020. Scots voted in a 2016 referendum to remain in the EU after they had rejected independence by 55% to 45% in 2014. McAllister, referring on Sunday to British Prime Minister Boris Johnson's post-election drive to
    take the United Kingdom out of the EU — despite Scottish objections — by January 31 said the British premier "stood before enormous challenges." "A new round is this battle has begun" in Britain's Brexit drama, McAllister told RND (Redaktionsnetzwerk Deutschland [Editorial Network Germany]).



    McAllister grew up in Cold War West Berlin where his father, originally from Glasgow, was a British forces civilian official and his mother as a music teacher. Asked if Britain, post-Brexit on January 31 would rearrange its future relations with the EU by the end of 2020, McAllister described the time-frame as "extremely ambitious." "A detailed free trade agreement is in any case not realizable in so few months," he said, speculating that London might seek a transitional phase of "up to two years." "The UK may be leaving the EU, but remains linked to us in many ways," he added.






    McAllister governed Germany's northern state of Lower Saxony as premier from 2010 until 2013, became an EU parliamentarian in 2014 and its foreign affairs committee chairman in 2017. The 48-year-old member of German Christian Democrat is also one of 10 vice presidents of the conservative European People's Party (EPP).



    The welcoming overture to Scotland came after former British Prime Minister Theresa May asserted during Westminster debate on December 19 that an independent Scotland would not be allowed to be part of the European Union. Currently waiting to join the EU are four Balkan nations — Serbia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Albania — but their accession bids had been slowed down by EU focus on Brexit and lack of domestic reforms as perceived by the European Commission. At the EU's Brussels summit in October, France, the Netherlands and Denmark sought to delay such accession bids.



    Top EU lawmaker raises prospect of easy Scottish return to ...

    31 XII 2019.


    Will Britain set a precedent in Europe and encourage or allow Scotland to secede from the United Kingdom? I doubt it very much. It will result in payback and the EU know that.

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    The SNP wasn't always the all-left-wing bunch. Up until the 70s it was an umbrella party for pretty much everyone in favour of pro-Scottish policies and/or independence and had a left wing and a right wing within its party. Then the left took over there, and haven't given that position away since.

    That being said, even the more outspoken patriotic and/or nationalist folks amongst Scots have been known to back the SNP even if they disagree with some of their policies. There's not to say that there couldn't be a resurgence of non-left-wing nationalism coming from part of the basis.

    Sure, Scots have always been more towards the Socialist leaning side, but that being said, there exists a type of precedent in East Germany: A lot of people backed the Left Party some years back. Now they tend strongly towards the AfD which has "social-patriotic" policies of sorts in that part of the country far more than in the Western states (where they're for all intents and purposes a "liberal-conservative" party, or an 'FDP for Sunday racists' if you will).

    Whether that's possible within such a large party as the SNP of course remains speculative and there's probably a big now. But: The potential sentiment is there and "we" shouldn't leave Scottish Nationalists to the Liberal left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    The SNP wasn't always the all-left-wing bunch. Up until the 70s it was an umbrella party for pretty much everyone in favour of pro-Scottish policies and/or independence and had a left wing and a right wing within its party. Then the left took over there, and haven't given that position away since.

    That being said, even the more outspoken patriotic and/or nationalist folks amongst Scots have been known to back the SNP even if they disagree with some of their policies. There's not to say that there couldn't be a resurgence of non-left-wing nationalism coming from part of the basis.
    ....
    I'm not so familiar with the history of the SNP.

    The idea that Nationalism is a "right-wing" thing seems to be a feat of some countries and even periods. Universally and especially initially this was not the case. Classic Nationalism is traditionally more associated with classical Liberalism and not reactionary points of views that insisted on Absolutism and a state church. In many countries Nationalism is simply the common sense ground for all political participants and groups left, right and center.

    The leftists taking over the SNP (or Nationalism for that matter) sounds like a clever plot to deplatform right-wingers from any meaningful organisational and programmatic basis. Most lefties don't think that way, though. But a metapolitical approach to Nationalism is required anyway. Just having a splinter party that opposes all others on the basis of Nationalism seems counterproductive to me. Nationalism must become the generally accepted tenet for all parties and political camps.

    Programmatically the AFD seems to be in line with the centrist parties in Germany of the 1970s and 1980s, but that may be slightly different in the former DDR provinces. It actually shows you that the centrists have drifted to the New Left since then with Nationalism being exorcised in Germany via guilt mongering and shaming since the military end of World War Two and the start of the occupation.

    The New Left seems simply insane to me with their open borders, multiculti, genderism, deindustrialization ("climate change") etc. At least one could say that the Old Left did raise some valid issues (poverty, situation of workers, unemployed, disabled or financially marginalized), even if their arguments and policies were flawed. The New Lefties don't - It seems they've thrown those clientele groups under the bus in favor for hysterical hipsters, yuppies, welfare migrants and the cause celeb of the season.

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    SNP's Ian Blackford shamed as Boris Johnson exposes reason behind independence bid


    SNP's Ian Blackford was shamed over his party's ongoing demands for a new independence referendum as Prime Minister Boris Johnson pointed out the "abundant failure" marring the Scottish party's record.



    Ian Blackford was shut down after demanding yet again Westminster give Scotland the right to decide its own future asBoris Johnson blasted the
    SNP over their abysmal governing record. First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has repeatedly demanded the Prime Minister give the Scottish Parliament permission to hold a new independence referendum in 2021. But in a heated exchange during PMQs, Mr Johnson brutally rejected Mr Blackford's request. The Prime Minister said: "I think the real question is why the SNP keep going on about breaking up the most successful union in history – to distract from their abundant failure in government. “You know what’s happening. In spite of getting an extra £9billion a year from the UK Exchequer – which, of course, they’d lose if they were so foolish as to break away – they are mismanaging their healthcare. "And it’s not the fault of Scottish pupils what you see Scottish schools falling behind on educational standards." Mr Johnson added: "Concentrate on what you are doing and stop going on about breaking up the union."



    Mr Blackford insisted his request for a new independence referendum is "about democracy" as he claimed Scottish people rejected the Government's plans to go ahead with Brexit at the last general election. The SNP MP said: "In 2016, the people of Scotland voted to remain in the European Union yet they are being dragged out of Europe against their will by this Prime Minister. "In 2019, the people of Scotland elected a majority of SNP MPs to Westminster. The Scottish National Party won the election on the promise of Scotland’s right to choose its own future, rejecting the Prime Minister who lost more than half his seats in Scotland. "The Scottish Parliament will decline legislative consent to the withdrawal bill. Why is this conservative government dismissing the will of the people of Scotland, ignoring their voices and disregarding our Parliament?"


    Nicola Sturgeon faced criticism in December after the last Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) report showed Scottish pupils lag behind peers across the world for both maths and science. The First Minister has repeatedly committed to putting her “neck on the line on the education of our young people.” Ms Sturgeon and her party have also been under fire over the performance of NHS Scotland under the SNP Government. During the election campaign, the Scottish leader addressed the concerns over education and health but was accused of putting independence ahead of real issues in the devolved nation. But the SNP leader rejected the accusation, saying: “These are issues each and every one of them that I focus on every single day as First Minister. “When you are First Minister these are all priorities.”





    Boris Johnson rejected calls for a new independence referendum in Scotland on several occasions. The Prime Minister also committed to strengthening the union in his first-ever speech as Prime Minister when he was elected to succeed Theresa May as leader of the Conservative Party in July.




    More people who were born in Scotland now live in England than the current Scottish population.




    Once free of the UK would the SNP like the UK to subsidise them until they managed to shackle themselves to the EU and sit in Brussels with their begging bowl out.


    You do realise that Scotland’s biggest trade partner is the rest of the UK right? For example 2017: Scotland exported just under £20bn to the EU, just over £20bn to the rest of the world and ...wait for it...almost £60bn within the UK. leaving and becoming independent would mean new trade deals to be made with the remainder of the UK, the EU would insist on a land border between England, Northern Ireland and Scotland to protect its single market. The block grant would cease so there’s another almost £10bn per year lost on top of the £60bn export...who do you think the SNP will expect to help fill that gap? The Scottish people with tax rises.



    Did someone switch on that SNP tape recorder again. Blackford might as well play a recording when he starts his spiel in Parliament, it’s exactly the same speech each and every time he stands up to make it, it’s always the same word for word and it’s become so tedious, just like is voice .



    I learned an interesting wee fact about Blackford last week He allegedly has a 'Croft' that entitles him to upwards of a hundred thousand pounds in EU subsidies not to farm. Upon hearing that information everything about the wee pygmy and his loaded agenda now makes sense.



    SNP's Ian Blackford shamed as Boris Johnson exposes reason ...

    10 I 2020.


    If you have seen the Parliamentary SNP leader Blackford in action a few times you’ll know how true this is:

    “ Blackford might as well play a recording when he starts his spiel in Parliament, it’s exactly the same speech each and every time he stands up to make it, it’s always the same word for word and it’s become so tedious, just like is voice.”


    A law should be passed to prevent this stupid, obstructionist carry on. Of course Brussels is behind the sences, urging the SNP on.

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