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    Quote Originally Posted by KYAnglo View Post
    In my eyes, true patriotism is loyalty to one's own blood folk and the preservation, self-determination of the same folk in a land they are natives of, or have made their own by the blood and sacrifice of many generations, as with my homeland. Definitely not allegiance to any particular government, leader, etc.
    Agreed, I'm astonished how governments have redefined patriotism as to agree with everything they say, while at the same time disparaging Nationalism.

    To me Patriotism is a warm felling to one's own kin-folk, the fatherland (Patria), if you want. Nationalism is far more political, it is the strife for a nation to rule itself and defend that rule against other (may also be the government, if it changes law and institutions).

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    Quote Originally Posted by KYAnglo View Post
    Might be timely for the English to look into refurbishing Hadrian's Wall, lol.
    Is Scotland a nation-state? Let's have the Antonine Wall be that border, to reunite all of Northumbria and Cumbria divided by Hadrian's Wall, as Lowlanders are English. Picts and Scots proper come from beyond the middle belt, North of Edinburgh and Glasgow. Argyll is more or less an Ulster colony of Scots, so the remainder of the mainland in the actual Highlands is Pictish. Then there are the Norse lands, primarily in Orkney and Shetland. People say that Irish are supposedly not Germanic, but why say Scottish are? It's hardly black and white in each case.

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    Scotland players refuse to 'take the knee' before Euro 2020 opener, but will kneel prior to England game on Friday

    Scotland players refuse to'take the knee' before Euro 2020 opener, but will kneel prior to England game.

    SCOTLAND decided not to 'take the knee' prior to their Euro 2020 opening match against Czech Republic on Monday.

    The players instead stood with their hands behind their backs in a show of solidarity in the fight against racism. They will however take the knee on Friday when they lineup at Wembley to face England.

    Last week, the Scottish FA confirmed that the team would be opting out of taking the knee at the tournament, because they felt the gesture had become "diluted". However, less than 24 hours later they
    announced that they would take the knee prior to Friday's match in order to convey unity with England's team, who confirmed they will be taking the knee prior to every match.

    Scotland captain Andy Robertson said the negative reaction to the gesture from England fans during their two Euro 2020 warm-up fixtures earlier this month prompted the change of mind. "For this reason, we have collectively decided to again take the knee as a team for the fixture against England at Wembley Stadium. "The Scotland team stands against racism but we will kneel against ignorance and in solidarity on June 18."

    Scotland were beaten 2-0 in Glasgow following a fantastic double from Czech striker Patrick Schick, one of which he scored from just over the half-way line.

    England, who beat Croatia 1-0 in their opening game on Sunday courtesy of a second half Raheem Sterling strike, received a mixed reaction to the gesture from the 22,000 supporters inside Wembley Stadium. Initial boos were drowned out by applause, demonstrating just how divisive 'taking the knee' is.

    Opponents of the gesture associate it with the left-wing political activist group Black Lives Matter, and many have argued that changing the gesture would go some way towards solving the problem.

    Whatever the answer, by standing in unison on Friday, England and Scotland's centuries-old rivalry will be centred solely on matters on the pitch, rather than off it.

    Scotland players refuse to 'take the knee' before Euro 2020 opener, but will kneel prior to England game on Friday

    20 VI 2021.
    Had the England v Croatia game been in Zagreb we know what the salute would have been.

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