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    Quote Originally Posted by Coillearnach View Post
    The average American man engages in 41 hours of paid work a week, not 60, and the woman is not far behind at 36 1/2. Women engage in at least 2 times the unpaid labor on top of that, a working mom puts in an extra 58 hours a week unpaid - for which she is penalized unlike employed fathers who reap the rewards of positive bias.



    Emphasis on "when the time comes", not every generation has a draft. Women are damned if they do and damned if they don't on this one - if they want to fight, men complain, if they don't fight and the men lose (and perhaps even if they win) - they're raped, scrambling to take care of the kids with no money, in extreme cases even enslaved (no, this is not a ludicrous "primary victims of war" argument). Even more salt in the wound given that women are more pacific than men and only recently could even express those characteristics in the ballot box.

    Women have their own perpetual war to deal with - childbirth, a war that has killed far, far more than any other in the history of this country and doesn't even have the nicety of a public cult.



    Women do have custody bias but divorced women aren't flooded with "cash and prizes" - they disproportionately fall into poverty compared to men and their earnings fall (while men's rise).
    So you have outlined what women's responsibilities are outside of work. What are MEN's responsibilities outside of work? Our responsibilities are to protect our families and nations. Since we became "civilized," that means government. These are duties, not privileges, just like bearing and caring for children are duties. We are meant to perform our duties for one another out of LOVE... love for our families and love for the folk body as a whole. Only (((outsider enemies))) and those whose thoughts they have subverted wish to portray it otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coillearnach View Post
    The average American man engages in 41 hours of paid work a week, not 60, and the woman is not far behind at 36 1/2. Women engage in at least 2 times the unpaid labor on top of that, a working mom puts in an extra 58 hours a week unpaid - for which she is penalized unlike employed fathers who reap the rewards of positive bias.
    Perhaps that's the key to women on average living 4 years longer than men in the Western World. In the States, it's 6.5 years.

    Also, I think the extra time women put into housework can be explained by women's greater predilection to wanting a clean and tidy home. Men generally don't care so much about that, and would rather want to spend their time and energy on what they themselves see as more valuable. I think a lot of women would be surprised (and possibly appalled) by the standard of upkeep in the homes of most bachelors. Women trying to push the same amount of housework on men is kind of pushing their own standards on someone who doesn't see the same value in it. In a way, it is akin to a husband complaining that the wife doesn't put as much time, money and energy into the home cinema system, or fixing the car. To most women, that is of lesser importance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coillearnach View Post
    Emphasis on "when the time comes", not every generation has a draft. Women are damned if they do and damned if they don't on this one - if they want to fight, men complain, if they don't fight and the men lose (and perhaps even if they win) - they're raped, scrambling to take care of the kids with no money, in extreme cases even enslaved (no, this is not a ludicrous "primary victims of war" argument).
    No sane man with a sense of self-preservation would want to go to war with a woman by his side. What if he gets injured, and is dependent on a female partner carrying him to safety? Besides, women are too valuable to be sacrificed in combat. Both from a biological point of view, and from a place of sympathy. Most men have a strong instinct to keep their women out of harm's way. And in a combat situation, the focus should be on taking out the enemy, not making sure that none of your team mates get killed.

    Besides, I wonder what the rate looks like between women being raped by invading armies versus women voluntarily sleeping with invading soldiers. In the case of my own country, during its last military occupation, the stats were not very flattering.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coillearnach View Post
    Even more salt in the wound given that women are more pacific than men and only recently could even express those characteristics in the ballot box.
    Do you know of any statistics to back up that notion? In the case of the US, it seems to me like there's only two factions within American politics which are expressively non-interventionist, namely the Libertarians and the Paleo-Conservatives. Both of which are predominantly made up of males.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coillearnach View Post
    Women have their own perpetual war to deal with - childbirth, a war that has killed far, far more than any other in the history of this country and doesn't even have the nicety of a public cult.
    All honor to the women who go through childbirth, but women dying during labor is long since a phenomenon belonging to the history books. I would have liked to see more policies rewarding motherhood, though, like what they have going on in Hungary.
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    Taxes could be regarded as a means to obtain more than just one single vote .

    The amount of votes need to be calculated .

    Voting would be just possible by postal service .


    Elections are about the future , and therefore the age of participants should be in the range of 12 to 75 years of age .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    No, because there shouldn't be any elections.
    A better option?

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    We already have a society where women dictate to men, look at the result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    We already have a society where women dictate to men, look at the result.
    And opposite? WWII, WWI, Thirty Years' War, Black Death (killing 30% - 60% of population in Europe) etc. etc.

    Only blind person would keep our histories just bright & glorious. Or overlook all the sad & sorrowful moments (people have faced) with a shrug ... a'la: ''inevitable matters''.
    Nope ... our histories are results of patriarchal societies (ours and/or others). Caused all the positive matters but also all the negative matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    And opposite? WWII, WWI, Thirty Years' War, Black Death (killing 30% - 60% of population in Europe) etc. etc.

    Only blind person would keep our histories just bright & glorious. Or overlook all the sad & sorrowful moments (people have faced) with a shrug ... a'la: ''inevitable matters''.
    Nope ... our histories are results of patriarchal societies (ours and/or others). Caused all the positive matters but also all the negative matters.

    Throughout history, queens were more likely to wage war than kings

    https://qz.com/967895/throughout-his...-war-than-men/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    Throughout history, queens were more likely to wage war than kings

    https://qz.com/967895/throughout-his...-war-than-men/
    I don't fully byte that ... just like it has been written.

    First of all the numbers of women is too small (Kings vs ''Empires'' like Cleopatra, Catherine the Great etc.). Secondly queens who had been married with power alliances .... that might had been the outcome; yes ... but why it had been so? Because of those Queens themselves or because of their powerful (men) alliances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    [...]Black Death (killing 30% - 60% of population in Europe)[...]

    Nope ... our histories are results of patriarchal societies (ours and/or others).
    How, in God's name, is an infectious disease the fault of patriarchy?

    Your feminism is really going over the top now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juthunge View Post
    Your feminism is really going over the top now.
    I hope she will grow out of that, like I did. She reminds me so much of me when I was like 19, 20 years old. You see many things differently once you are married to a good man and have a family of your own. Feminism ends when you have the right husband. It really does.

    Pretty girls around 20 can afford to hold some feminist views, because the world lies to their feet anyway. It's just very important that they think about the future and grow out of it before it's too late.

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