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    Should males have the right to vote in political elections?

    Sorry, I just could't help myself now


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    Interesting topic to turn the tables - perhaps share your own opinion though to kindle some discussion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Interesting topic to turn the tables - perhaps share your own opinion though to kindle some discussion?
    Oh, I surely have opinion to this . But before going on that ... lets start with few ''warming questions''?

    Should adult people who pays no taxes (for example unemployed, students etc.) have any rights to vote?

    How about retirement people (who will not anymore bring anything ''productivity'' to societies)?

    And more .... we have very hard progressive tax system here (model of equal Nordic countries).
    So should people who pays more taxes have more rights to vote vs those who pays less taxes? Meaning: Some would have only 1 vote but some others 2 votes or even more?

    I agree that soldiers who have fought behalf of countries should have rights to vote, but how about soldiers who have not faced any real war? We have those a lot in Germanic countries. Our WWII veterans starts to be rare.

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    Anyone should be able to vote on anything as long as nobody is taxed or in any other way forced to follow a policy a majority of other individuals has voted for. The reason why the women's suffrage has been introduced (by men!) was not to liberate the woman or nonsense like that, but the knowledge women are more risk-averse than men and always (in their majority) would vote for bigger social budgets, less responsibilities in exchange for more personal liberties, thus bigger government. It was a gambit by etatist men to checkmate the individualist traditionalists.


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    Ok fine. I'll sit at home cook and clean while you work 60 hours a week to provide for me. Oh and its your job to fight when the time comes and I'll call you a coward if you don't.
    I can divorce you at will and the courts will take my side and you get to work to provide for me while I go sleep with someone else and you only get to see your kids if I say so. Oh and I get the house and the car too.
    This thread is a great example of why women should never vote at all.
    You already have everything and you want more. Western women are a bunch of spoiled children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Should males have the right to vote in political elections?
    Do you think that would result in a political landscape more conducive to the preservation and wellbeing of your Nation?
    A nation is an organic thing, historically defined.
    A wave of passionate energy which unites past, present and future generations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    Ok fine. I'll sit at home cook and clean while you work 60 hours a week to provide for me. Oh and its your job to fight when the time comes and I'll call you a coward if you don't.
    I can divorce you at will and the courts will take my side and you get to work to provide for me while I go sleep with someone else and you only get to see your kids if I say so. Oh and I get the house and the car too.
    Dont worry, you'll never experience any of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    Dont worry, you'll never experience any of it.
    LOL. I could't have replied any better...

    Honestly what comes to soldiers & armies:
    Quite rare countries still have their real own armies (meaning here: countries all own boys/men will go through the mandatory military services and country's defense forces will really base on those men (who will not get any salaries/benefits via that duty) ... and not so much to ''mercenaries''. Not anyway today's NATO countries.

    Plus those countries which really have faced wars (and not just fought another continents) ... it is quite often civil people who will hurt the most ... and not anymore automatically the soldiers.

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    No, because there shouldn't be any elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    Ok fine. I'll sit at home cook and clean while you work 60 hours a week to provide for me.
    The average American man engages in 41 hours of paid work a week, not 60, and the woman is not far behind at 36 1/2. Women engage in at least 2 times the unpaid labor on top of that, a working mom puts in an extra 58 hours a week unpaid - for which she is penalized unlike employed fathers who reap the rewards of positive bias.

    Oh and its your job to fight when the time comes and I'll call you a coward if you don't.
    Emphasis on "when the time comes", not every generation has a draft. Women are damned if they do and damned if they don't on this one - if they want to fight, men complain, if they don't fight and the men lose (and perhaps even if they win) - they're raped, scrambling to take care of the kids with no money, in extreme cases even enslaved (no, this is not a ludicrous "primary victims of war" argument). Even more salt in the wound given that women are more pacific than men and only recently could even express those characteristics in the ballot box.

    Women have their own perpetual war to deal with - childbirth, a war that has killed far, far more than any other in the history of this country and doesn't even have the nicety of a public cult.

    I can divorce you at will and the courts will take my side and you get to work to provide for me while I go sleep with someone else and you only get to see your kids if I say so. Oh and I get the house and the car too.
    Women do have custody bias but divorced women aren't flooded with "cash and prizes" - they disproportionately fall into poverty compared to men and their earnings fall (while men's rise).

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