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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Oh, I did't mean it would be ideal at any sense ... but life is always full of compromises and choices, right? Right now there are no money to run common healthy care systems ...
    Usually there is some subsidiarity principle. Meaning problems are resolved on the lowest level possible, if not they get referred higher up. This applies to both federalist countries (Switzerland, Germany, US) as well as centralist ones (e.g. France). Communist countries may be a bit different in that (Central Economic Planning), which is one of the reasons for their balls ups.
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    I thought that kind of leadership is exactly one which is the most popular among of nationalists (so called: hard style leadership)? And what comes to war ... some Americans seemed to wait (even wish?) for their civil war II.
    I think you will find that Nationalists may have different preferences on this. There are Centralists that prefer a unitary states (central government which appoints local officials) as well as Federalist/Decentralists (local officials are appointed locally independent of the central government) that would like to see as much independence of regions and local authorities as possible. They both may have reasons for this. In war time the central authority may supersede local authorities and laws arbitrarily to speed up decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech View Post
    I suppose it would take martial law for army or airforce personnel to have any authority over civilians outside of military installations.
    In America, the posse comitatus act is being circumvented by the militarization of civilian LE.

    The normally friendly "Adam Twelve" kind of civilian peace officers who at least made an honest effort to interact as mediators on the troubled streets of America to deescalate problems before they reached the boiling point have been transformed into gung-ho 'tactical' units. These paramilitary 'soldiers' are clad in body armor, helmets, and are armed with automatic rifles, armored vehicles, and a very dangerous "us against them" mentality. I cringe whenever one of these LEOs refer to private citizens as "civilians" in a derogatory manner when they themselves are supposed to be civilians.
    Aside from an ever increasing number of mortals who have willfully chosen to worship Satan and his minions, our battle has always been against the powers and principalities operating surreptitiously throughout this twisted world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    How about Minnesota?

    Are there any differences (between states) what kind of people (looks/ethnics) are seen as ''white'' in USA?
    Not really. If you're white in the USA you're white. Having packs of dindu's (blacks, dind't du nuffin, dindu) roaming around makes that idea obsolete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    Not really.
    Ok. Thank's. Now I know ''enough''.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    Not really. If you're white in the USA you're white. Having packs of dindu's (blacks, dind't du nuffin, dindu) roaming around makes that idea obsolete.
    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Ok. Thank's. Now I know ''enough''.
    FS, the information provided by Astragoth is false. "White" has only grown to becoming so inclusive with the breakdown of all racial boundaries in the past 70 years, ironically.

    There are deep differences within the White communities that exist in the United States, even the native Anglo-American population. The most significant differences can be traced back to the years before the English Civil War (in many ways, the American Civil War was a repeat of that war). These differences even show up genetically. Most of the people who established the New England and the Northeast ("Yankees") were from the East Anglian region of England and came from a Puritan (congregational Calvinist) background. Most of the people who settled in the Coastal South were from the South and West of England. Most of the people who settled the back-country (Appalachian Mountains and beyond) through to Texas were of Northern English, Lowland Scottish and Northern Irish (Scots-Irish) ancestry.

    Of course around the time of the Civil War through to about 1920-1930, many non-British groups began to settle in the United States: Germans in the upper Midwest (throughout the country too but most pronounced here), Scandinavians (especially in Minnesota!), Irish in the Northeast, Italians around NYC, etc etc. But in most cases these people landed where civilization had already been built and so their impact isn't quite as pronounced as the aforementioned groups, but it is of course still present.

    The cultural anthropology of the United States is pretty fascinating. Another interesting case is that a branch of those same Anglo-Saxon descendants of those Puritans from East Anglia actually ended up following Joseph Smith and Brigham Young out West and founding the Mormon Church (Latter Day Saints). Most of Utah to this day is extremely Anglo-Saxon in origin.

    If you're actually interested, the best sources that summarize this are:
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...erican-nations
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32081.Albion_s_Seed

    This article is also a good read:
    http://www.unz.com/jman/the-genetics...rican-nations/

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    Thanx leRoux (for links). I have seen some of those maps earlier (where different Europeans mainly settle down). My dad used to say me ... ''To understand present time, you have to know the history''.

    I think Minnesota would be the best place for me in USA ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by leRoux View Post
    FS, the information provided by Astragoth is false. "White" has only grown to becoming so inclusive with the breakdown of all racial boundaries in the past 70 years, ironically.
    Sigh. Here we go again. No it's not false. The biggest differences in the USA is the massive chip that southerners have in this country for committing treason and losing. Most whites in this country are of German descent. It's a cultural thing.
    The "who is white" game is never played outside of forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    Sigh. Here we go again. No it's not false. The biggest differences in the USA is the massive chip that southerners have in this country for committing treason and losing. Most whites in this country are of German descent. It's a cultural thing.
    The "who is white" game is never played outside of forums.
    I've argued this before Astragoth, and never been proven wrong. Rehashing it gets tiresome. German was the highest self-selected ancestry on the oft-cited 2000 census purely because they placed it higher on the census form list than they did in the years prior. To support your theory: between 1990 and 2000, millions of Germans would have had to have moved to the United States. It was also not the plurality of European ancestry on the 2010 census. What I provided is empirical evidence including genetic data and you have nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leRoux View Post
    I've argued this before Astragoth, and never been proven wrong. Rehashing it gets tiresome. German was the highest self-selected ancestry on the oft-cited 2000 census purely because they placed it higher on the census form list than they did in the years prior. To support your theory: between 1990 and 2000, millions of Germans would have had to have moved to the United States. It was also not the plurality of European ancestry on the 2010 census. What I provided is empirical evidence including genetic data and you have nothing.
    You haven't proven anything. I don't recall arguing with you at all let alone being proven wrong by you. Shoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    You haven't proven anything. I don't recall arguing with you at all let alone being proven wrong by you. Shoo.



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