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    Renewable Energy is a Scam


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    Some comments:

    I think the question: Can renewable energy safe the planet ... is not fully ''fair''. If we go on that road ... then the question should be: Can anything safe the planet where species like humans lives?

    Windmill farms (needed area UK example)? Just shows how overpopulated even some developed countries are.

    Windmill farms should mainly be done to sea areas. Today's problem is the heavy/extreme conditions. Technology is not yet ready here. Then the wind is exactly the hardest (storms etc.) ... these windmill systems are needed to run down ... to avoid damages.

    Windmills and birds? Common sense and willingness are needed here. Starting from issues like: avoiding areas which birds are known to use for their migrations or nesting.

    Sun power: Even if we have cloudy days (not shining) some Sun's energy (rays) will reach the Earth. We (if any) here in the top of Earth will know that. Yes, solar panels can produce energy even those days (but for sure less).

    Nuclear power plant: no shut downs? I wonder what Harrisburg, Chernobyl, Fakushima have been...
    Ok ... Finland has 4 nuclear power plants. Country made decision from 5. at year 2000. It was planned to start up year 2009. Still today (end of 2019!) it has not produced any energy. None/zero watts. Lots of delays, problems, bad works etc. and main partner/producer is/was exactly French company (the dream country of nuclear energy, nuclear power plant technology and nuclear power plant knowledge). I wonder what the rest are ...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olkilu...r_Plant#Unit_3

    Recycle nuclear power plant waste? Not a expert here, but it someway feels that is not so easy (or cheap or even both). As for some reasons so called moral nations have built storage bases for that waste (deep into their own country's basements). Low morals ones? Sold that waste to poor countries (motto: away from eyes ... away from minds).

    Thorium? We know whom to blame ... super powers (USA & Sovjet Union). Yes, it would have been better option/road from the beginning.
    Or how about fusion based reactor (in the future)? Benefit? The half-life of the radioisotopes produced by fusion reactor would be much less than those from fission reactors (50 years vs thousands of years).

    Coal power plant (Chine)? Very true. Trump seems to love that particular energy source as well...

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    As long as coal is responsibly mined, processed, and used in power plants with exhaust scrubbers, it is second only to natural gas as a safe energy source.

    Coal: 7.4 billion tonnes


    The World Coal Association estimates that there are more than one trillion tonnes of coal reserves worldwide, enough to last 150 years at current rates of production, so it is unsurprising to see coal ranked as the most-mined mineral in the world.

    While China has consistently led the world in production – the country was responsible for 3.3 billion tonnes in 2016 – this was down 16% from the 3.9 billion tonnes produced in 2012. Chinese coal output slumped below the 3.4 billion tonne-threshold predicted in 2016 and the trend may continue, as renewable energy sources become more widespread.

    The Chinese decline has mirrored a trend in worldwide coal production, which fell to 7.4 billion tonnes in 2016 from 8.2 billion in 2012. While coal production has increased in Australia and Russia in the last five years, both South Africa and the US have seen sharp declines in production of anthracite and bituminous coal. American coal production in particular has fallen from over 900 million tonnes in 2012 to 782 million in 2016, the lowest figure since 1979.

    https://www.mining-technology.com/features/coal-iron-bauxite-top-list-mined-minerals-world/


    While I'm not paranoid about the safety factors involved in operating current technology nuclear power plants, there is a much safer and cleaner alternative that should eventually replace them.

    https://www.intechopen.com/books/pow...n-power-plants

    Wind power is of limited benefit because generating stations are restricted to locations where there is enough wind to make them worthwhile.

    Aside from an ever increasing number of mortals who have willfully chosen to worship Satan and his minions, our battle has always been against the powers and principalities operating surreptitiously throughout this twisted world.

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    It isn't a scam, but the industry is not in their favor. Energy is a luxury. The only way to make alternative energy production viable is to make it a right.

    Wind power should never be seen as a "this and only this" type of solution. It is supplementary power generation at best. Because it is not always windy, yes? Therefore it cannot be the only power generator. Use it to supplement solar or water power.

    There is no way to abandon one kind and go to another. Because you need the old to make the new. Nuclear power seems like a terrible idea mostly because we have no way to deal with it when it goes wrong. Currently the best solution to a meltdown is to brush it under a rug, (literally) cover it with concrete and hope we live long enough before it kills us. There is no solution for the waste, besides the pipe-dream of just shooting it in the sun. Even our top of the line technology cannot service a meltdown, as evidence that robots melt when sent into Fukushima Dai-ichi.

    Perhaps less bashing on coal due to pollution, and increase research on making it cleaner. Coal won't be going anywhere anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Recycle nuclear power plant waste? Not a expert here, but it someway feels that is not so easy (or cheap or even both). As for some reasons so called moral nations have built storage bases for that waste (deep into their own country's basements). Low morals ones?
    There is this "Castor" stuff going on where (((they))) ship nuclear waste to a "recycling" company in France, then ship it back, with days long closing down of railway routes for "safety" reasons (costs millions), then burn some more millions in the recycling company to actually "recycle" a whopping lower than >1% of it. It cant be recycled. It cant be decomposed. It cant be unriched again. It is waste forever. It is a suicidal technology.

    And there is no "final solution" to the waste either. All these socalled "final storage" places are unsuitable, and there probably is no suitable place on earth either.

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    There is no solution for the waste, besides the pipe-dream of just shooting it in the sun.
    And one has to wonder, given the endless space, why these freakish people want to shoot it into the sun. Of all places. The sun is made up of very light gases. Nuclear waste are particles, through enrichment and use even solidified into clumps ones. So, now we're enriching the solar Helium with heavy Plutonium and Uran? I'm sure this is one great idea...not. Never mind that the solar wind would bring it back here and instead of enjoying the Northern Lights they will then cause nuclear alarm on half the planet.

    At the end of the day, nuke plants are still steam power. All power plants, in fact, are still steam power. The real problem to solve is how to steam water with low energy need.

    One Tesla coil later, a solar cell input could be warped for an output of several million kilovolts. Or make traitorous politicans run a trafo power for eternal punishment, whatever. I'm sure we can steam water with something else than nondisposable nuke waste...
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