What you are allowed to do to protect your own kids?

[Finnish Swede]

A real life example of present day life .

https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/d...a-4fbf74c745c5

Nurmijärvi (Southern Finland ... about 30km north from Helsinki) .... a man had stolen van (car) while the owner of the car had been inside of Hesburger (local hamburger restaurant company). Nothing very special on that.

Well; the owner of the car was also father of 3 very small kids and those kids had been inside of that car. Luckily (and unluckily for that hijacker) the criminal was needed to stop on traffic lights ... and father had had enough time run to help/rescue his kids. After that father had attacked against the driver and beat him (used something stronger than just his hands).

Now... the father is suspected for grievous bodily harm plus possession of object which can harm another human. Police says that parents are allowed to protect their kids but only to a certain degree. Prosecutor is investigating the case.

The man who stole the car is well known for polices. He is already suspected for 5 crimes incl. gross false imprisonment (kidnapping?).

No ethnic backgrounds had been told.

Where you see that ''degree'' goes?

[Þoreiðar]

Where you see that ''degree'' goes?

Ethically speaking, I don't think there's ever a boundary for what one should do to protect one's own children. But in the example you've given, I don't think there's much purpose to beating up the hijacker more than necessary, once the situation is secured.

Although, I have often wondered about many stories in Sweden, where young women and girls have been gang-raped, and the perpetrators have been let off with merely a slap on the wrist (like a couple of weeks community service), or no punishment at all, why we don't see more examples of people taking the law into their own hands. Like a father or other male relative of the victim personally seeking revenge on the attackers. I wouldn't find anything morally objectionable about that.

[Finnish Swede]

Ethically speaking, I don't think there's ever a boundary for what one should do to protect one's own children. But in the example you've given, I don't think there's much purpose to beating up the hijacker more than necessary, once the situation is secured.

Well; I don't how badly hijacker was beat, what ways (more specifically), how long etc.

What I value here is that media published the case ... now the folk are aware of it and will follow what the judgement etc. will be. There have not been lots of cases like this ... before.

[Herr Rentz]

Here, if a perpetrator is committing a forceable felony against a child you can use up to deadly force to stop the attack.

[Astragoth]

In theory you have the right to defend yourself against attack in the USA. But
if the perpetrators are black you'll probably be prosecuted for it. Self defense is
legal just not for white people. Take this example.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/aPGho19V84Iv/

[LillyCaterina]

We have the right to use whatever force we deem necessary to stop an act of violence here.

Gareth told me he had to deal with litigation due to such an incident in the past. And he was found not guilty cause it was self-defense.

[Huginn ok Muninn]

In my view, someone of an alien ethnicity who commits a crime against our people within our lands is an enemy combatant, and as such has no right to anything, including protection from being killed. The folk body can enforce this through jury nullification. That parent can justifiably murder the kidnapper of his children and suffer no penalty aside from being tried for the crime. The jury, in its common wisdom, should set the parent free.

[Sigurdsson]

It varies with the situation. In the case of highjacking a car while unknowingly kidnaping a child or children, death nor severe beating seem the moral solution. But, if a person is knowingly attempting to harm a person’s child, anything is justified in protecting that life.

[Uwe Jens Lornsen]

Children have an unknown future .

Protecting children is an investment into the future .

Self-justice is unfortunately not the way to go .

[Uwe Jens Lornsen]

Travelling in rural India might lead to be beaten up because of
rumors of abducting children :

Australian man in intensive care after being beaten by mob in south-west India


...

India has recently experienced several incidents of mob attacks and murders in rural areas, referred to locally as lynchings, because of rumours spread on WhatsApp accusing foreigners of abducting local children.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-...india/11718986