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    Should Roots Mean Something?

    Today the 23th of December we (I and my grandparents) visited a local cemetery ... we put some candles and ''winter flowers'' on the graves. I had never visited there before.

    It was a weird feeling ... to see so many familiar names (via my family's genealogy study). Those persons have just been names for me but now seeing their graves ...

    I have heard new things about my ancestors (my grandparents knows more than my dad). Plus via my aunt etc.

    Yes; I have been Sweden many times earlier. Most often in Stockholm, but also in several other cities. Despite language (and some similarities in culture) ... I have always felt a bit like an ''outsider'' or ''stranger''. Here (Skåne) ... the most distant corner of Sweden (from Ostrobothnia) I have felt for the first time ... I belong here in some manner (in Sweden). Does this make any sense ? Race and culture are the most important matters, but how do you see roots? Do they mean anything? Or should they mean anything (emotionally)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    roots? Do they mean anything? Or should they mean anything (emotionally)?
    When I was around your age, I was doing the same thing you are doing now. I would travel to my grandparents' and get them to visit the tombs of our ancestors. It ended up with my maternal grandfather and his brother talking to each other again after many years, and we together driving to small towns and finding out stuff that was news to us all.

    I think what you are doing is excellent, if only because it will make you feel more emotionally whole and more in contact with your ancestors, even if it isn't "ideologically important".

    Spend as much time with you grandparents as you can because life is short and they are gone in a second (it starts with the male ones.) Also, as you realize, there is knowledge relevant to your origins and about the past that only they can give.

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    Roots mean everything to me. Visiting the graves of my ancestors, speaking to my grandparents and great grandparents about their family and the stories passed down to them; it connects me to them even after they’ve passed.

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    If roots doesn't mean anything to you, why are you on Skadi?

    I think it's important to know where one comes from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    If roots doesn't mean anything to you, why are you on Skadi?

    I think it's important to know where one comes from.
    Sure, but I someway went to "micro-level" now, not talked about Germanics, Scandinavians not even Swedes as such. I talked about Scanians vs rest of Swedes... and my feelings. Right or wrong...

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    I don't intend to speak for everyone here, but I think that it comes natural to feel alien and a little intimidated by Swedish Swedes (rikssvenskar) when you are from Finland and maybe Norway too. They make up the "big brothers" of the Nordic countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthWestEuropean View Post
    I don't intend to speak for everyone here, but I think that it comes natural to feel alien and a little intimidated by Swedish Swedes (rikssvenskar) when you are from Finland and maybe Norway too. They make up the "big brothers" of the Nordic countries.
    I think that's a bit funny. I've heard the hypothesis from Swedish nationalists several times, that there's a sense of "inferiority complex" among the rest of Scandinavians (particularly Norwegians) in relation to the Swedes. I mean, why on Earth would we feel intimidated or even inferior? Perhaps under the times of the different Scandinavian unions, it could be understandable. But today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    I think that's a bit funny. I've heard the hypothesis from Swedish nationalists several times, that there's a sense of "inferiority complex" among the rest of Scandinavians (particularly Norwegians) in relation to the Swedes. I mean, why on Earth would we feel intimidated or even inferior? Perhaps under the times of the different Scandinavian unions, it could be understandable. But today?
    Well, if you are an outsider in Stockholm, you might feel that the people there are "arrogant", know better and act like others should always follow their model. People in other regions of Sweden also feel this. Although Skåne doesn't hate Stockholm as much as they do in Norrland, I think.

    Finnish Swede probably feels more at home in Skåne because people in Swedish Sweden tend to consider Finland-Swedish as Finnish accent and Finnish Swedes to be ethnic Finns. Nils Brandt was a Finnish Swede who played a Finnish man Rocky from Rovaniemi in Jönssonligan, lol. Jan Malmsjö was an actor from Skåne who had to re-learn his mother tongue to speak in Sweden Swedish. It is just my thesis that she might feel more at home because they have being "linguistic minorities" in common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthWestEuropean View Post
    ... I think that it comes natural to feel alien and a little intimidated by Swedish Swedes (rikssvenskar) when you are from Finland
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthWestEuropean View Post
    Well, if you are an outsider in Stockholm, you might feel that the people there are "arrogant", know better and act like others should always follow their model.

    Finnish Swede probably feels more at home in Skåne because people in Swedish Sweden tend to consider Finland-Swedish as Finnish accent and Finnish Swedes to be ethnic Finns.
    Oh, I think you you are correct ... in some sense. Of course we can always talk/discuss am I really ''Swedish Finn'' after all? Culturelly and via my accent ... for sure. If I had lived in Sweden (anywhere) I would probabaly keep myself Swedish, fair or not.

    Another matter ... my mom's ancestor (from Stockholm area) arrived to Finland already 400 - 300 hundreds years ago. Plus afterwards we gotten some Western Finnish blood. Should I feel strong connection to people who lives in Stockholm today? Do Americans feel strong connection to their ancestors (countries) .... who came from Europe 300 years ago ... or do they keep themselves Americans at first place? Bit a same here...

    Opposite my dad comes from Skåne. My relatives still lives (are alive) here in Skåne today. That is much much closer. And that was what I meant. These are mainly mental matters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Oh, I think you you are correct ... in some sense. Of course we can always talk/discuss am I really ''Swedish Finn'' after all? Culturelly and via my accent ... for sure. If I had lived in Sweden (anywhere) I would probabaly keep myself Swedish, fair or not.

    Another matter ... my mom's ancestor (from Stockholm area) arrived to Finland already 400 - 300 hundreds years ago. Plus afterwards we gotten some Western Finnish blood. Should I feel strong connection to people who lives in Stockholm today? Do Americans feel strong connection to their ancestors (countries) .... who came from Europe 300 years ago ... or do they keep themselves Americans at first place? Bit a same here...

    Opposite my dad comes from Skåne. My relatives still lives (are alive) here in Skåne today. That is much much closer. And that was what I meant. These are mainly mental matters...
    You are not a Finnish immigrant, but there would be Swedes who mistook you for one because they are simply ignorant.

    I would not identify with something that goes as far back as 300 years, but I know a Swede who said that he had Finnish ancestry and then told me that it was that long ago. I was like, oh. Personally, I have a German ancestor who came here in 1700 and preserved his family name until my grandmother, but I do not claim to be part German.

    Most Americans do not view themselves as English, unless they are loyalists. Most in the North are of mixed European ethnicities and "Euromutts" as they sometimes call themselves. The most British-descended ones are Southerners and they could start a riot if you put up a flag of another nation on your home.

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