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    Why Men Shouldn’t Marry Women Over 30

    While the language of the article is too crude for my taste and the author seems to be too focused on sex rather than child rearing, some of the following is useful advice, especially for the younger men:

    Don’t marry a woman over 30. There are the obvious reasons…

    - The over-30 woman has lower fertility. If you want to build a dynasty, your over-30 wife might stall out at 1.3 heirs.

    - The over-30 woman has likely amassed an impressive knob count. When you marry a 30+ woman, you’re marrying her 30+ cockas. Hope you like getting phantom cucked! As magically prehensile as your penis may be, she’ll never look up to it in cross-eyed awe like she did with her first cock when she was younger, hotter, tighter, and inexperienced.

    - The over-30 woman is bitter from a wasted prime spent on failed relationships she hoped would lead to marriage. Now that you’re marrying her, she should be grateful, but she’s not. You remain perplexed, as is the wont of your beta male class.

    - The over-30 woman fell in love with her career and the alpha male bosses she answers to before she fell in love with you. Wrong order.

    But all these reasons pale in importance to the fact that a man marrying an over-30 woman is investing everything he has in a rapidly depreciating pleasure provider that has already lost a lot of its aesthetic value.

    As reader Trainspotter helpfully notes,

    Zombie Shane: “But the fall-off [in a woman’s attractiveness] a few years later can be shockingly abrupt.”

    It certainly can be. So many guys these days are marrying early 30’s women, and then, almost immediately – Bam! The wall. It’s over almost before it began. It comes on so fast these guys should qualify for some sort of PTSD related disability.

    As I go through my week, I often see married couples walking about. At least nine times out of ten, the wife is so unattractive that there is no way I could possibly imagine doing her, and these are just women in their 30’s. In fact, it is impossible for me to imagine most of them as having ever been attractive enough to warrant male attention.

    Perhaps the fault is mine, and my imagination impoverished. Where I saw only blight, sag and bloat, their male partners saw bounteous opportunity, vistas beyond compare.

    Do these men have stomachs of iron, or something? What power of will do they possess that I lack, in order to service these mighty warpigs? Most assuredly, I could never do what they do. I lack the strength, to my great and eternal shame.

    Col. Kurtz himself has nothing on such gods, strolling amongst mere mortals such as I. Give me ten divisions of men like that and…well, not exactly sure what I could do. Probably bump up porn sales a notch or so.

    “It’s over almost before it began.” The shining shiv delivered. The message received in pierced heartmeat. Surprise expiration!

    Marrying an over-30 woman is like buying a used car one mile short of its 120,000 mile servicing. Yeah, you’ll enjoy a few bumpy rides sitting in that steal, but it won’t be long before the tailpipe falls off somewhere on Route BigMistake and the heater blows ice queen air.

    The over-30 woman can fix herself up enough to fool the prospective provider hubby for a short while, and once the line that is dotted is signed the ruse will be discarded. The short time horizon thinking and avoidance of easy prescience are the thermal exhaust ports of many a beta schlub too desperate for love to project the catalyst of their ardor a few years forward.

    Marry her young and un-plunged. That’s the ticket (if you must punch it). This way, you get to enjoy five to ten more years of your wife’s prime nubility before her petals start floating to the ground. Ten years of almost famous sex in exchange for surrendering your natural male prerogative for poosy variety beats two years of reunion tour sex at the same exorbitant price.

    There’s another, subtle, reason to refuse the wedded diss of marrying the over-30 woman. Now, naturally, if you marry an under-30 woman, the day will come, ostensibly, that she’ll be your over-30 wife. But you’ll have something that chagrined men who married women on the cusp of sagging cups don’t have: Years of very fond, very monopolized, very supple memories. If you maritally snag a 21-year-old minx and occupy her sugar walls for the next ten years, the spermatomically bonded cervix-splattered glue of all those splendid tumbles of passion accrue into something larger than the sum of your individuated speckles. All that young woman heat, heat which will never be replicated with the older version of your wife, captures into limbic amber a network of interlocked, superconductive emotions with the power to sustain lovingrapture a good ways past the poignantly brief era of peak wife ripeness, onward into the elevator muzak era of bland marital inertia (50 years, plus or minus).

    You marry an over-30 woman and you’re left grasping at a grease truck menu of curdled, pear-shaped memories and wrinkled recollections for sustenance.

    Don’t fall victim to marrying that Charlie Brown Christmas tree that drops its one bulb as soon as you carry it across the threshold. Find yourself a young healthy fir, chop it down, decorate it with your tinsel, and leave lots of unwrapped gifts under its voluptuous boughs. Just make sure there’s no room under there for anyone else’s gifts.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20141223...women-over-30/

    If you are seeking to marry and especially have children, do it while you are still young and fertile. The same goes for women. Don't wait until you are 30 and regrets start kicking in.

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    I can only speculate about the personal life of this particular individual, but I think this pathetic incident involving an obviously frustrated middle-aged 'career oriented' woman illustrates how unhealthy it is for women to concentrate solely on living without men until they find themselves in similar situations where the hope of landing a male unicorn has become a mere fantasy.

    I can only surmise that the outcome of this alleged "enticement of a minor" case will forever haunt this foolish woman. If convicted, she will not even be able to continue pursuing the teaching career she blew her youthful chances of becoming a wife and mother for.

    VIGO COUNTY, Ind. (WTHI) -- A teacher accused of having sex with a high school student faced a judge for the first time on Thursday morning.
    35-year-old Gina Richey turned herself in to police in Vigo County.



    She is a former teacher at Rosedale Elementary School.

    Parke County authorities handed over the case against Richey over to police in Vigo County after learning the alleged sexual incidents took place at her home in Terre Haute.

    Police say she had a sexual relationship with a Riverton Parke High School student. Deputies believe that relationship had been going on for some time.

    Court records all Richey bought the student gifts. Police say she was close friends with that student's family.

    Documents went on to say Richey even babysat the student at one point.

    She is out of jail on a $25,000 bond.

    A preschool aid in the district was also fired for knowing about the relationship and not reporting it.

    https://www.wthitv.com/content/news/Teacher-accused-of-having-sex-with-student-at-her-Terre-Haute-home-was-once-that-students-baby-sitter-court-docs-say-563790641.html
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    The article in the opening thread is indeed very rude and obviously written by a misogynist.

    Seriously, many of those arguments are simply puerile and, honestly, men who only view the physical beauty of women, being unable to look to their inner beauty too, beyond the physical appearances, don't deserve to marry such beautiful women, in the first place! Then they will be the ones complaining about their women not being like they were before. It's a natural process called ageing. If you can't imagine growing older near the woman you want to marry, and you don't love her in the first place (love means to see and love her inner beauty too), then, simply, you shouldn't marry at all! No offence, but such men don't deserve wives and children... It will be them complaining after some years about their women, instead of trying to solve problems in their couple relationships properly. Physical beauty and youth are not eternal... we all deal with ageing.


    Very puerile arguments, for example this:

    - The over-30 woman has likely amassed an impressive knob count. When you marry a 30+ woman, you’re marrying her 30+ cockas. Hope you like getting phantom cucked! As magically prehensile as your penis may be, she’ll never look up to it in cross-eyed awe like she did with her first cock when she was younger, hotter, tighter, and inexperienced.
    Someone should inform the author about Kegel exercises and Kama Sutra, among others...
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    This is way beyond crude, it's verbose diarrhea. Some nuggets of truth? Yes - whilst being buried up to the neck in waste.

    A 30+ woman:

    will have declining fertility (35+ rapidly)
    will have had time to have more partners & relationships (failed or otherwise)
    may have put her career before relationships
    may start showing signs of age (wrinkles, sagging, cellulite, blahblahblah)

    Wow, that's it. That's all there was of value.

    The rest is whinging about the loss of an ego boost because of an inexperienced woman who is paradoxically worse at sex, assuming the majority of single 30s are bitter careerists who defer to their bosses, shock and disgust at the idea of women aging and other men's choice of partner, and explaining why this wonderful young "pleasure provider" that you once married will morph into an ogre but you will somehow be satisfied with her anyway because magical-wand word salad.

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    WTF?

    Don’t marry a woman over 30. There are the obvious reasons…

    - The over-30 woman has lower fertility. If you want to build a dynasty, your over-30 wife might stall out at 1.3 heirs.
    Maybe, maybe not. Some are infertile by birth or had 2 or 3 miscarriages in their 20's, some give birth to healthy children with 40 and above.

    - The over-30 woman has likely amassed an impressive knob count. When you marry a 30+ woman, you’re marrying her 30+ cockas. Hope you like getting phantom cucked! As magically prehensile as your penis may be, she’ll never look up to it in cross-eyed awe like she did with her first cock when she was younger, hotter, tighter, and inexperienced.
    Uhm yeah, because all women fuck around like rabbits. Mystery says that the sperm of previous One Night Standers remain in our 'oven' forever and men come in contact with it each time they have sex with us!!!111oneoneone At least that's what a giant human trash-bin wrote on the Internet.

    - The over-30 woman is bitter from a wasted prime spent on failed relationships she hoped would lead to marriage. Now that you’re marrying her, she should be grateful, but she’s not. You remain perplexed, as is the wont of your beta male class.
    Yes, it's always like that: First there are the patriotic & tradional women in their 20's, but on the day they're having their 30th birthday, they become liberal feminazis with green hair and an ox ring in the nose. Trueeee dat!

    - The over-30 woman fell in love with her career and the alpha male bosses she answers to before she fell in love with you. Wrong order.
    Uhm okay, let me have a look on my majestic career and all the alpha male bosses I had & have................. <career not found> <Alpha Bosses count = 0>

    Daaaaaaamn, something wrent wrong and I'm certain I won't be the CEO of IBM in two years.

    But all these reasons pale in importance to the fact that a man marrying an over-30 woman is investing everything he has in a rapidly depreciating pleasure provider that has already lost a lot of its aesthetic value.

    Zombie Shane: “But the fall-off [in a woman’s attractiveness] a few years later can be shockingly abrupt.”

    It certainly can be. So many guys these days are marrying early 30’s women, and then, almost immediately – Bam! The wall. It’s over almost before it began. It comes on so fast these guys should qualify for some sort of PTSD related disability.
    We call know it. The one day you go to bed looking fine and great and the next day you stand up you're a filthy witch with saggy boobs and increasing gravity issues. Thanks to the gods, men are immune to such worries: Their genitals and testicles stay tight and toned forever. Man boobs and beer bellies are urban legends....

    Do these men have stomachs of iron, or something? What power of will do they possess that I lack, in order to service these mighty warpigs?
    Called 'LOVE'. Something that the writer of that bullshit litany has seemingly never experienced.

    Marrying an over-30 woman is like buying a used car one mile short of its 120,000 mile servicing. Yeah, you’ll enjoy a few bumpy rides sitting in that steal, but it won’t be long before the tailpipe falls off somewhere on Route BigMistake and the heater blows ice queen air.

    The over-30 woman can fix herself up enough to fool the prospective provider hubby for a short while, and once the line that is dotted is signed the ruse will be discarded..
    Alright guys on Skadi, please marry me on the weekend. Please, I'm in need. I'll be a great wife for my next 1 3/4 years. After my 30th birthday I'll be a fugly old hag and you can throw me away like dirt. But hey, this will be the best 21 months of your life. TAKE ON MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!


    (And yes I'm a bit drunk...preparing for Halloween night....but this rant WAS INEVITABLEEEEE! )
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    There are some obvious reasons why it makes sense for women to marry young, and one of them is naturally that once they've reached a certain age, most of the good men roughly in the 30-50 bracket are already spoken for, and that, should they find someone, the time to found a family is biologically limited.

    That being said, we once had a female Skadi member from German who had her first child at 29, with a man some six or so years her junior nonetheless, and ended up as a mother-of-ten leading a happy marriage from all we could tell. It's nothing that can be generalised that easily.

    Finally, Leliana's post is so legendary that I'm going to have to add some extra to this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leliana View Post
    Uhm yeah, because all women fuck around like rabbits. Mystery says that the sperm of previous One Night Standers remain in our 'oven' forever and men come in contact with it each time they have sex with us!!!
    It's sadly completely normal logic for people from the Incel bracket. Whilst Turks label all the girls that go to bed with them as 'sluts' your average online-darkweb-incel is bound to see every girl who doesn't share his blanket as a slut. They're also scared they'll be so inept at making love that they won't be able to make a woman forget about all the other men she's had.

    That being said: from my experience, most traditional-minded women will have slept with but an assortment of good men, and usually for the most part when in a loving relationship with them. So by and at large, if you stumble upon an available patriotic women in their thirties, you're typically going to be up against the memory of perhaps around four or five men who tend to be their Exes for a reason. So not that hard to compete against, unless you're a total cuck to begin with.

    Yes, it's always like that: First there are the patriotic & tradional women in their 20's, but on the day they're having their 30th birthday, they become liberal feminazis with green hair and an ox ring in the nose. Trueeee dat!
    I've met some who literally grew horns when they awoke with a three at the front. I'd be damn scared if I was you.

    Jokes aside: Every well-spoken Gentleman knows that good women never age a day beyond 29, anyway. They simply stop there and keep celebrating their 29th birthday for eternity.

    Thanks to the gods, men are immune to such worries: Their genitals and testicles stay tight and toned forever. Man boobs and beer bellies are urban legends....
    My girlfriend and I recently visited a thermal bath in Lower Bavaria because we still had gift vouchers. When in the shower, I saw an elderly man whose testicles appeared to be hanging near his knees. When I shared the experience, I heard the missus saw similar things. And that's us both wearing glasses to begin with.

    Heck, it's natural and it's part of getting old. We'll all be there at some point and we shouldn't be so anal about it now. We'll also likely not be worried about it much, because we'll be looking for our glasses and teeth for most of the day because we forgot where we put them and blame our spouses for hiding. So nah, I'm not scared about my masculine prowess withering, too, but it'll be a while. Plus, I already have four prosthetic teeth and a pair of glasses and that means a lot of practice.

    Alright guys on Skadi, please marry me on the weekend. Please, I'm in need. I'll be a great wife for my next 1 3/4 years. After my 30th birthday I'll be a fugly old hag and you can throw me away like dirt. But hey, this will be the best 21 months of your life. TAKE ON MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
    Look, you're a humorous, clever and pretty young lady that any eligible preservationist man would be more than glad to have at his side, and I hope you won't take this too personal, but I'm afraid I'll have to call it a bad bargain. My dearest girlfriend is, at this stage, only 26, and she can thus offer me almost four years of bliss. And knowing now that some magical hex will turn her ugly over-night on a summer night of 2023, I'm going to need all this time to prepare my "stomach of iron", alas.

    Also, I advised my secretary to only let people pass who have enough beer on them to amount to the entire year's hops harvest of Hallertau and the Mühlviertel fields combined. Since you're no CEO of IBM yet, I wouldn't want to be such a massive strain on your budget, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    It's sadly completely normal logic for people from the Incel bracket. Whilst Turks label all the girls that go to bed with them as 'sluts' your average online-darkweb-incel is bound to see every girl who doesn't share his blanket as a slut. They're also scared they'll be so inept at making love that they won't be able to make a woman forget about all the other men she's had.
    That's just a weak, feminist cop-out. Just because some men are seriously turned off by women with a high notch-count, doesn't make them incels, bad lovers, small-dicked or whatever other denigration one sees fit to throw at them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    That being said: from my experience, most traditional-minded women will have slept with but an assortment of good men, and usually for the most part when in a loving relationship with them. So by and at large, if you stumble upon an available patriotic women in their thirties, you're typically going to be up against the memory of perhaps around four or five men who tend to be their Exes for a reason. So not that hard to compete against, unless you're a total cuck to begin with.
    This is working from the premise that the true value of intimate relations are based on the level of performance from each party, and not on the exclusive, personal bond that it has the potential of offering. For each person one sleeps with, the aspect of exclusivity progressively deteriorates. The notion of 'competing' is irrelevant in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ţoreiđar View Post
    That's just a weak, feminist cop-out. Just because some men are seriously turned off by women with a high notch-count, doesn't make them incels, bad lovers, small-dicked or whatever other denigration one sees fit to throw at them.
    Oh, I'm perfectly happy with the fact my girlfriend only ever had been with one other man before me, and I was likewise happy with the fact her precedessor had only been with three men; both of them had been in a long-term relationship with the named men.

    But if it'd be more, it wouldn't be the first thing I'd worry about, as I'm not so insecure about myself to believe that a comparison with whoever else had been there before would have fallen to my disfavour. Both spoke about the failure of previous partners to make them climax particularly often, a problem I didn't appear to encounter myself, far from it.

    At the same time I've met a whole assortment of men who complained about "all women being sluts". Over 80 percent of them were themselves were bad at attracting women in the first place, with the other under 20 percent of them being seriously bitter about personal wrongings for picking women that screamed 'damaged goods' from a mile away. The "women are sluts because they sleep with everyone except me" guys are a living meme, and the author's ramblings seemed awfully like coming from that camp.

    This is working from the premise that the true value of intimate relations are based on the level of performance from each party, and not on the exclusive, personal bond that it has the potential of offering. For each person one sleeps with, the aspect of exclusivity progressively deteriorates. The notion of 'competing' is irrelevant in that regard.
    The true value of intimate relation is based upon performance. Only that the personal, exclusive bond you mention makes up a great deal of that performance in the first place. In a loving, exclusive relationship, you get to know each other and the things you like, and it leads to the enjoyment of your sexual relations rising to a new level that can't be mimicked by cheep one-night-stands.

    This new level you discover as the two of you make love then also strengthens the bond between man and woman, and so on. Relationships that suffer from all-too-different perceptions about sex and/or have vastly differing libidos tend to ail and falter and/or will lead to one or the other partner believing they'll have to help themselves with an affair. Which isn't something anyone (and even less a preservationist) should be aiming for, so: Learn to understand your partner's needs, also sexually, and you'll have a good relationship.

    If you manage to make this work completely harmonious and have a better symbiosis with your woman than she ever did with her former partners, she'll naturally stop comparing, and even if she does, you'll "win" every time around, anyway.
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    But if it'd be more, it wouldn't be the first thing I'd worry about, as I'm not so insecure about myself to believe that a comparison with whoever else had been there before would have fallen to my disfavour.
    There's no reason to equate 'insecurity' with a concern for one's (potential) partner's past sexual encounters. A man could be the complete manifestation of a mythological sex-god, and he still would be unlikely to want a woman with a 20+ notch count as the mother of his children. At the very least, it wouldn't be his preference. Female promiscuity is instinctually despised by men when looking for potential partners. Which makes sense, in regards to our evolutionary psychology. There's a good reason why women normally underestimate their official notch count, and men overestimate their own.

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    At the same time I've met a whole assortment of men who complained about "all women being sluts". Over 80 percent of them were themselves were bad at attracting women in the first place, with the other under 20 percent of them being seriously bitter about personal wrongings for picking women that screamed 'damaged goods' from a mile away. The "women are sluts because they sleep with everyone except me" guys are a living meme, and the author's ramblings seemed awfully like coming from that camp.
    That might well be true, but there's a lot of sluttiness to be witnessed from the perspective of the "other camp" (i.e. men who doesn't have a problem attracting women) as well. And it's not just obvious red-flagged, single mothers with tattoos and an alcohol addiction, either.

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    The true value of intimate relation is based upon performance. Only that the personal, exclusive bond you mention makes up a great deal of that performance in the first place. In a loving, exclusive relationship, you get to know each other and the things you like, and it leads to the enjoyment of your sexual relations rising to a new level that can't be mimicked by cheep one-night-stands.
    I suppose we have to agree to disagree. I think the true value lies in making a unique, exclusive bond with another person, which hasn't been made with other people (or as few as possible). On such grounds, sex is going to be amazing regardless of any techniques or tricks one brings to the fold. And if they really love each other, they will make an effort to make it as enjoyable for each other as possible, anyway.

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    If you manage to make this work completely harmonious and have a better symbiosis with your woman than she ever did with her former partners, she'll naturally stop comparing, and even if she does, you'll "win" every time around, anyway.
    I don't mean to be crude and vulgar, but just to get my point across; you could still be kissing a mouth that has gone down on an entire football team, no matter how much you feel like you're "winning". That shit doesn't wash off.
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