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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    Why I discuss such issues? I don't know ...the subject came up, and I found it interesting. Some people replied, and I responded, and here we are.
    Well ... don't know others but at least I have not used words like a ''sluts'' ... in general use/talks.


    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    Not flattering? To whom?
    Men as a gender?


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    It seems that most parents only give such advice and warnings to their daughters, not their sons.
    Think about that. There is obvious reason for that? Who has more risks of opposite sex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Well ... don't know others but at least I have not used words like a ''sluts'' ... in general use/talks.
    Okay. Why does that word bother you?

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    Men as a gender?
    Men typically don't have the same group-identity centered around their sex as modern women do. It should be reasonable to criticize one segment of a certain sex without it being taken as an attack on all members of that sex. I am well aware that a lot of men exhibit low moral standards in relation to the opposite sex, and I'm happy your father have gotten you wise to it, as long as you don't fall into the feminist trap of treating all men as being guilty of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Think about that. There is obvious reason for that? Who has more risks of opposite sex?
    Like risk of physical harm? Sure. But there are plenty of reasons to warn young men about women as well. Crazy bitches who trick men into becoming unwanted fathers for instance. An ex of mine told me it's not a completely unheard of occurrence among her own circle of friends, and even admitted she contemplated doing it to me. It was even brought up as an advise for women here earlier in the thread.

    There are tons of ways a woman can seriously screw with a man's life. Yet most parents seem to leave their sons to figure it out for themselves. I think the reason for that is that male sexuality isn't held in as high regard, and doesn't need to be protected to the same degree, which is rooted in our evolutionary psychology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Angel View Post
    I don't understand why this article apparently offends some people here.
    Do you regularly hear men refer to an aging woman as a "rapidly depreciating pleasure provider" or tar & feather nearly all the marriage choices of other men they encounter?

    there are still many factual truths in it.
    A s*** sandwich with some meat on it is still a s*** sandwich.

    Of course, women over 30 are less fertile. Women are most fertile when they are between 18 and 25. That's a biological fact. So from an evolutionary perspective, it makes total sense for a man to want a young, beautiful, fertile woman, especially if he wants to have a big family. This is not misogyny, this is evolution, biology and nature.
    Sure, that's biology, but we're not slaves to that as human beings with consciousness, maybe "hey, that's just nature" isn't a morally sound argument.

    Same goes for the "notch count"
    The notch count thing was an outright lie though, most women don't have anywhere near 30 partners, the average isn't even in the double digits in the US and Europe (also, the difference between male and female partner count was less than 1.)

    Whenever I hear something that is supposedly "misogynistic", I just take a minute and think about it from the perspective of a loving mother and ask myself "is this some advice that I would want my own son to be given?" This always leads me to the correct answer whether something is really misogynistic or just truth and common sense. I have three daughters, but if I ever have a son someday and he grows up and wants to have a stable longterm relationship and a happy intact family, I also wouldn't recommend him to marry an over-30-year-old woman who has had countless other men before, but rather to go for the young, kind, sweet 19-year-old who has had no more than 1-2 partners before, but is most preferably a virgin.
    Okay, but how old a son are we talking here? Would you give that advice to a 30 year old man? Also, what if your son has had a ton of partners himself, would you think it is right that he demand more than he maybe deserves?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonaby View Post
    Even in this day and age, the #1 reason why women go to college is to find a husband.
    And most men will end up marrying a woman they meet through this environment.
    What are you basing this on? Do you have any data to back this up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Angel View Post
    Of course, women over 30 are less fertile. Women are most fertile when they are between 18 and 25. That's a biological fact. So from an evolutionary perspective, it makes total sense for a man to want a young, beautiful, fertile woman, especially if he wants to have a big family. This is not misogyny, this is evolution, biology and nature.
    And it's a biological fact that young women don't want older or men over 30.

    It almost doesn't matter what men want.
    If you are competing against younger men, that's tough competition.

    And I'm not saying it's bad for men to not want a women that's had a lot of partners - particularly if they haven't had a lot of partners. Women also have their own reservations about men and their history.
    For one thing, many women would be inclined to avoid any man they know who has been with a prostitute or is bisexual, which would be precisely why men who've had these experiences are inclined to not be mentioning it. (I don't want a man that I know has had a lot of partners or bisexual, but I probably wouldn't exactly ask, like most women, or expect the truth if I did. Many men also wouldn't mention when they've slept with Black women, etc. And there is more men having sex with men than we know about.)
    But, then again, there is NOTHING women can do to know anything for sure.

    All I'm saying is that if you have a man of High-Desirability, you need to maybe think about whether fidelity is an absolutely necessary component of marriage. Many women know that these men can't commit, but marry them anyway as long as the man believes in the family, believes in his children and respects his wife, particularly by not throwing these activities into his partner's face or engaging in prolonged romantic affairs, or not having it with unmarried women. Women do make silent agreements to this.

    Likewise, if you see a Highly desirable woman, she's probably had a lot of men; and has a lot of men approaching her.
    Let's say she's a really, really cute girl, and she's 20 years old. She's probably had 8-10 men, minimum, and yes, by the time she is 20.
    You need to be able square yourself with that if you're going to be in a relationship that has any chance.



    I would tell my daughter to marry someone on her level, and give her the same advice Ive already listed in this thread.

    I'd tell my son, by the time he was 15-19, to starting thinking about marriage and his future while he's on his way to college.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Angel View Post
    "Whenever I hear something that is supposedly "misogynistic", I just take a minute and think about it from the perspective of a loving mother and ask myself "is this some advice that I would want my own son to be given?" This always leads me to the correct answer whether something is really misogynistic or just truth and common sense."
    You want your son to read this tripe?

    The ramblings of a bitter, misogynistic, middle-aged man?
    Who believe the most important aspect of a relationship is for the woman to be younger than him and looking up at his cock in cross-eyed wonder?

    Common sense would be to know what you want in a relationship and a partner and your future, and to know this before you even start.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Angel View Post
    I also wouldn't recommend him to marry an over-30-year-old woman who has had countless other men before, but rather to go for the young, kind, sweet 19-year-old who has had no more than 1-2 partners before, but is most preferably a virgin
    I'd tell my son to marry before he's 30 or 35, depending on how many kids he wants. To think about these while he's in his first relationship. To talk about these things in the beginning of every relationship.
    To decide whether or not he even want kids or marriage in the first place.
    To know what the woman want while he's dating her, as that is the point of dating before entering a relationship.
    And to definitely, to re-emphasize this, to get his SH*T together before 30, NOT AFTER.

    To put a premium on virginity in a woman, only if he and she are both young, and only if he is too a virgin or atleast has had no more than 3 partners and doesn't have sex outside of a relationship or go looking to pressure women for sex. And only if he's put marriage as his first priority, otherwise it's unpractical. He needs to look at his own behavior too.


    I'm going to make it clear though, that I wouldn't even care if my son lost his virginity at 15, or even at 12 (though I'd try to guide him away from that.)

    But I'm definitely not going to be letting a son of mine be watching porn at 12-15 (or 8), and then end up watching porn, everyday, for like 5 to 8 to 10 years before he even kisses a woman and then ends up perennially single into his late 20s. (F*cking loser!! excuse my language, but god, Id be ashamed. That's why my number 1 goal is to make sure my son get properly socialized with girls before puberty.)

    If my son was approaching a phase of his life in his late 20s or early 30s, with no serious prospects, I would start talking to him about accepting a partner's other children. Because it's going to be a hard thing to do, but a necessary conversation to have.

    But just in case I end up failing as a parent, and raising a son who's despicable but marries a nice girl, I'd align myself with that woman and my grandchildren in preparation for a divorce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    Okay. Why does that word bother you?
    As I have not used to it. And I feel it is very derogatory term/word. If using that one/that kind one should have real evidences from that. But I'm country girl....

    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    Like risk of physical harm? Sure.(/quote]
    We agree with that, no other questions here (needed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coillearnach View Post
    What are you basing this on? Do you have any data to back this up?

    Common knowledge. Have you ever been to college?

    It's like a playground for the middle class and upwardly-mobile. People typically marry in their strata, and at their education level (particularly women aim for this.)
    And women still go to college first to find a husband, not for the degree in "Education" or "English language" or "Psychology"

    When my mom was going to college, they used to say this joke that women in school were all there for their M.R.S Degree. Also known as the "Mrs. Degree" SO, funny.
    Of course that's considered to sexist to say at loud these days.
    There was also some other related joke about all the women majoring in "education" to become teachers, but I forget. Maybe I'll think of it later.

    Anyway, The idea that men and women go to college primarily for a "career" or "intellectual enrichment" is a joke and everybody knows it
    Women go to college to get on track to finding a husband, secondary to that would be the "experience."
    Men go to college to PARTY, and for the women. Then for the degree, and the women.
    And then finally for the market-worthy skill and a job - equaling financial security for both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonaby View Post
    Common knowledge. Have you ever been to college?

    It's like a playground for the middle class and upwardly-mobile. People typically marry in their strata, and at their education level (particularly women aim for this.)
    And women still go to college first to find a husband, not for the degree in "Education" or "English language" or "Psychology"

    When my mom was going to college, they used to say this joke that women in school were all there for their M.R.S Degree. Also known as the "Mrs. Degree" SO, funny.
    Of course that's considered to sexist to say at loud these days.
    There was also some other related joke about all the women majoring in "education" to become teachers, but I forget. Maybe I'll think of it later.

    Anyway, The idea that men and women go to college primarily for a "career" or "intellectual enrichment" is a joke and everybody knows it
    Women go to college to get on track to finding a husband, secondary to that would be the "experience."
    Men go to college to PARTY, and for the women. Then for the degree, and the women.
    And then finally for the market-worthy skill and a job - equaling financial security for both.
    Yes, I'm degreed, I just don't think the MRS thing is true anymore, besides Utah (in the USA anyway). I seriously doubt the data is there - there's been a slew of articles recently that girls *should* be told to look for a husband in college and not just imbibe "the experience". This seems to be a relic of the 50s, 60s, and 70s as more and more women are degreed, and in more diverse areas, and men less so altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonaby View Post
    And it's a biological fact that young women don't want older or men over 30.
    I don't think so. I know of several examples among my own circle of acquaintances where girls in their late teens to early twenties have gotten together with men in their early thirties. All of them being together for 5+ years now. It's not as common as couples with smaller age differences of about +/- 3 years, but in return, they seem to make quite stable relationships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    Who do you think receives the greatest added status value by being a virgin; the 30-year old man, or the 30-year old woman?
    Neither. A 30-year old female virgin is as much a red flag as a 30-year-old male virgin. A lot of questions would come up, maybe even red flags, e.g. why is she still single at 30, if she's such an asset? Why hasn't a guy put a ring on her finger yet? etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    I don't think so. I know of several examples among my own circle of acquaintances where girls in their late teens to early twenties have gotten together with men in their early thirties.
    People vary. I opposite don't know many, and can not either say that those would last any better. Perhaps they really could do so what comes to older men but maybe not so via younger women. On the other hand ... it is not fair to blame those women only (they are younger and their adult life are just began).

    Of course I can only talk via myself .... late teens to early twenties? I'll limit that era then I was 18 (got driving license and rights to vote in elections) to present time (21). At the time I was 18 ... all men in their 30's were OLD! We (me & my friends) more like felt that if any men at that age will/would/were looking for girls like us ... we called them ''dirty old perverts''. We thought they should be looking women of their own age. And lets not mix any celebrations or Hollywood stars on this now. Their life ... those men and women have not much common with us/regular people.

    Well ... today I might have bit softer opinions. I still think age different (10 years or more) is MUCH if another person is just 18 or 21. But I understand that same age difference becomes smaller and smaller as people'll get older .... for example then woman would be 37 and men 47. Maybe we should see age difference more like this: Years (age different) / Lived years (younger person)?

    What a smaller number, the better.

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