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    UK State Pensions

    Defeat for women in state pension age challenge

    Campaigners have lost a significant legal battle against the government's handling of the rise in women's state pension age.

    The retirement age for women rose from 60 to 65, in line with men, and will go up to 66 by 2020, and to 67 by 2028.

    Women born in the 1950s claim the rise is unfair because they were not given enough time to make adjustments to cope with years without a state pension.

    They argued the changes were discrimination, but judges disagreed.

    In a summary of the High Court's decision, the judges said: "There was no direct discrimination on grounds of sex, because this legislation does not treat women less favourably than men in law. Rather it equalises a historic asymmetry between men and women and thereby corrects historic direct discrimination against men."

    The court also rejected the claimants' argument that the policy was discriminatory based on age, adding that even if it was "it could be justified on the facts".

    To chants of "the fight goes on" from supporters, Joanne Welch, who led the campaign, said outside court: "Where do we go from here? Well, where will the government go from here is the better question."

    She referred to Prime Minister Boris Johnson's pledge during the Tory leadership campaign to look at the state pension age issue with "fresh vigour", adding: "We will be holding you to that undertaking."

    She said she was "rather puzzled" by the court's ruling, but added: "We can take this, we've got broad shoulders."

    A spokesman for the Department for Work and Pensions said: "We welcome the High Court's judgment. It has always been our view that the changes we made to women's state pension age were entirely lawful and did not discriminate on any grounds."

    What was the case about?

    Up until 2010, women received their state pensions at the age of 60 but that has been rising since then. While most campaigners support pension age equality, they argued that the government was discriminatory in the way it has introduced it.

    The result has been that some women who thought they would retire and receive a state pension at 60 found that they would have to wait longer - for some a wait of more than five years. That resulted in financial hardship for many.

    Those affected were born in the decade after 6 April, 1950, but those born from 6 April 1953 were particularly affected and have been the focus of much of the campaign.


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    It’s scandalous that some women are having to wait an extra 6 or 7 years for their state pensions.

    When you consider that the SP is over £8k a year that’s at least £50k that the state is stealing from these people.

    However, the worst thing is that most (sensible) folks make plans for their retirement and when the rules are changed at short notice it throws out all of their calculations – it can be literally life-changing in some cases!

    My wife was ‘only’ robbed of 2 years’ pension and got off quite lightly but other women born a couple of years later are having to work an extra 6 or 7 years. It’s not just an unfair system but there’s a lottery element involved too … the whole thing is a complete farce!


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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    However, the worst thing is that most (sensible) folks make plans for their retirement and when the rules are changed it throws out all the calculations – it can be literally life-changing in some cases!
    Oh, you are much older than me (= wiser). But UK is not alone or any kind of special case here. Actually the same is happening everywhere in EU. First in old EEC & EFTA countries and later/last in poorer ex. Eastern European countries.

    Nations will not need to pay as much pensions as what a older age people will retire the less years they live as getting pensions. Nations are saving money (as they keep their taxes ... or other systems how they collect the money to pensions .... untouched). What individual people (like you) have planned or would like to do ... has nothing to do with this.

    Saying things how they are (in reality) ... sorry as this sounds ''ugly'' .... but then human retires he/she will just become a cost to society. Nobody ''wants'' those. Of course politicians can not express it like that (their popularity would drop) ... but that's how it is. Money talks here ... as always / everywhere. These plans to increase the retirement ages just shows/proves that (silently).

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    I accept that people are living longer these days but this is only the headline reason for the money grab. It's ostensibly logical but there's a lot more going on here

    To begin with, pension contributions by workers are not being used to finance pensions and are being spent on a whole raft of other schemes. I'm almost 100% certain of this, in the same way as the vast revenue generated by speeding fines and other traffic offences is not reinvested in roads but instead goes into central government's coffers (..to waste on migrants or the EU etc..) so it isn't a straightforward case of balancing the pensions budget.

    The cash could quite easily be found to pay women over 60 the pittance of £8k a year but the government has other priorities. This is basically an attack on WHITE middle-aged people if you look at the demographics and it's no accident that this particular group has been targetted.

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    I wonder what the reasoning was behind gender-differentiated pension policies up until 2010. In the UK, women have a four year longer life-expectancy than men, have 10% lower average salary than men (which means less taxes paid), and still had the right to retire five years prior to men. By the look of it, the same principle of earlier retirement for women is still alive in many Central and Eastern European countries.
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