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    If Carbon Dioxide Is So Bad For The Planet, Why Do Greenhouse Growers Buy CO2 Generators To Double Plant Growth?

    (NaturalNews) For only "pennies a day," any greenhouse owner can produce CO2 to help increase plant yields in their greenhouses. That's the message on CO2 generators sold by greenhouse supply companies across the United States and Canada. "1,500 ppm [of carbon dioxide] can be achieved... these generators automatically provide the carbon dioxide needed to meet maximum growing potential for only pennies a day," the ad says.



    CO2 generators "improve plant quality" and "increase production." They're made in the USA and run on propane or natural gas, turning fossil fuels into carbon dioxide.

    Why does this work to radically improve plant growth, health and yields? Because -- are you ready for the truth? -- CO2 is a plant NUTRIENT.

    Nope, it's not a pollutant that threatens human civilization as has been ridiculously claimed by global warming doomsday pushers. CO2 actually increases plant yields, accelerates "re-greening" and improves reforestation of the planet. And while today's atmosphere contains only 400 ppm of carbon dioxide, CO2 generators can help raise that level to 1500 ppm inside greenhouses, thereby accelerating plant growth and food production.

    Here's the ad so you can see it for yourself:



    Is CO2 is so bad for the planet, why do greenhouses pay to produce it?

    If CO2 was so terrible for the planet, then installing a CO2 generator in a greenhouse would kill the plants. But scientists and even governments actually recommend supplementing CO2 in greenhouses in order to boost plant growth and food production.

    "The benefits of carbon dioxide supplementation on plant growth and production within the greenhouse environment have been well understood for many years," says the Ontario Ministry of Agriculture and Food.

    "CO2 increases productivity through improved plant growth and vigour. Some ways in which productivity is increased by CO2 include earlier flowering, higher fruit yields, reduced bud abortion in roses, improved stem strength and flower size. Growers should regard CO2 as a nutrient... increasing the CO2 level to 1,000 ppm will increase the photosynthesis by about 50% over ambient CO2 levels."

    In fact, as recent scientific studies have shown, the slight rise in CO2 levels of the atmosphere has actually helped re-green deserts and arid areas, accelerating the growth of trees, shrubs and grasses which produce the oxygen human needs to breathe.

    Attacking carbon dioxide is hate speech against Mother Nature

    The more you really examine the scientific truth about carbon dioxide rather than the politically-charged "hate speech" against Mother Nature being spewed by people like Al Gore, the more you realize CO2 is a crucial nutrient for the Earth's environment and ecosystem. In fact, the vast majority of all the CO2 released into the atmosphere is produced by Mother Nature via animals in the ocean. Anyone who criticizes CO2 is attacking ocean life and condemning trillions of aquatic creatures who exhale carbon dioxide as part of their natural respiration. (Should they all be fined?)

    As a society interested in reforestation, expanding the diversity of plant life, nourishing trees and re-greening deserts, we should no longer tolerate anyone engaged in hate speech against Mother Nature and CO2. Those who attempt to demonize this critical nutrient for the planet are engaged in a kind of hate-motivated racism against plants.

    If it's not okay to condemn someone for being black, why is it okay for people like Al Gore to engage in endless hate speech against all the living beings that are green?

    Besides, all those people who keep sounding the alarm on CO2 are being too negative all the time. Nobody spews more doom and gloom than Al Gore and the global warming crowd who paint apocalyptic pictures of Earth's future if we all don't start paying carbon taxes to the super rich. Stop being so negative!

    They need to practice more positivity and repeat to themselves affirmations like:

    "CO2 is a nutrient for forests."

    "CO2 is produced by ocean life."

    "CO2 brings balance to the global ecosystem."

    "CO2 is to plants as oxygen is to humans."

    "CO2 can help transform barren deserts into sustainable forests."

    Perhaps by staying positive, the global warming fearmongers and doom-and-gloomers can calm down, take a few breaths (with extra CO2) and recognize that what's good for plants is good for the planet.

    In fact, I'm going to hyperventilate after writing this article just to generate a little extra CO2 for the world. It's my gift to Al Gore.

    For the record: NO, I don't support burning fossil fuels

    The No. 1 criticism of this story by the brainwashed hoards of Al Gore cult worshippers will be that I must have been paid big bucks by the coal industry to write this article.

    Don't be ridiculous. I'm the record -- for at least a decade -- having exhaustively condemned the burning of fossil fuels. Even though the CO2 they release into the atmosphere is actually a nutrient, they release many other pollutants such as sulfur and mercury (from coal). Scrubbers in the USA make U.S. coal plants the cleanest in the world, but China's coal plants are truly sickening pollution factories.

    I also believe it's time to get humanity off the petrochemical habit and onto something cleaner and more renewable such as low-energy nuclear reactions (LENR), formerly called "cold fusion." Recent analysis has confirmed, yet again, that cold fusion is real and practical. Cold fusion could be harnessed and used in place of coal to heat large quantities of water that drive steam turbines which generate electricity.

    In time, all of America's coal power plants could be switched over to cold fusion. Similarly, if improved battery technology comes along, gasoline-powered vehicles could be switched over to electricity, and if that electricity is powered by cold fusion, then it's clean all the way through the energy supply chain.

    Fossil fuels are dirty business: they're dirty to extract from the ground, dirty to transport and dirty to burn. But the CO2 they produce is not a pollutant; it's a nutrient that's desperately needed by trees, grasses and shrubs all around the world. So while there are lots of reasons to oppose the burning of fossil fuels around our planet, CO2 is not legitimately one of them.

    If all this talk makes you hyperventilate, then feel free to experience a hefty dose of self-inflicted guilt that you can alleviate only by sending all your money to Al Gore for all the carbon dioxide you're generating.

    Source: Naturalnews
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    Indeed. The whole environmentalist movement has turned into a cult of fear around CO2, which really is the least of our worries. One theory as to why the dinosaurs were so much bigger than present-day animals, is that the higher share of CO2 in the atmosphere (which now is being reintroduced through fossil fuels) enabled plants to grow bigger and more plentiful, and consequently made it possible for the dinosaurs to grow to their massive statures. If a higher amount of CO2 than what we've had the last couple of million years would make our planet unlivable, the dinosaurs would hardly thrive as much as they did.

    I would like to see more focus from the environmentalists on heavy metals, plastic waste and other toxic chemicals polluting our oceans, before I take them seriously. But as we know, that would lead their sights towards the Third World, and we can't be pointing fingers at brown people...

    This guy is quite good on the issue:

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    Plants transform CO² into sugar (glucose) as their nutrient through photosynthesis, with oxygen being the waste product of that process. Everyone who paid a little attention in school's biology class knows this. Oh what a surprise, CO² is "good" for plants LOL.

    Of course it is. The reason why greenhouses use it is to reduce costs by growing fruits and veggies faster under controlled conditions. Bananas are harvested when they're still small and green and then travel 6 weeks under CO² atmosphere over the ocean and when they reach their target destination, are fine yellow grown bananas.

    For humans it's however rather unhealthy. Before we put filters into the coal PPs and other burning industries, we had a widespread sickness called Pseudo-Krupp, which is an asthma-like lung desease caused by air pollution, of which CO² was one part of an overall poisoneous mix of pollutants. Since it's all filtered, the desease is almost nonexistent now. No one seems to remember the ozon hole, which slowly recovers since we scrapped the HCFCs.

    Our atmosphere consists of several gases, nitrogen (~78%) oxygen (~20%), Argon (~1%), plus aerosoles and volatile gases like CO², methane, ozon, chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) and hydrochlorofluorocarbons (HCFCs), sulfur dioxide (SO²) and other nitrogen compounds, the remainder is water steam.

    All of the gases are in themselves toxic for humans, also oxygen, which is also toxic in higher concentrations for plants.

    Indeed, the atmosphere at the times of the dinos was very different, and while dinos, reptiles(!) could make use of this different atmosphere, mammals (and they only appear at the end of the dino age on the scene anyway) were tiny, because the low oxygen level could not support mammal metabolism that had allowed them to grow bigger. Being tiny however was a huge advantage when the world burnt, and only after the events of 65mio years ago mammal evolution took place. With no more giant dinos roaming around eating giant plants on giant plains. The entire ecosystem changed and further developed to the conditions we have now, with the level of oxygen and nitrogen and the other gases, which would no longer support giant dinos, and climate zones and seasons. The "biggest" mammals are elefants and until extinction, mammoths, most of the mammal animal kingdom is still rather small in body size. Also the plants changed then, the trend went away from giantism to a more medium size. Giantism usually occures to counter deficiencies, the nutrition value of farns is rather low, so a dino had to eat tons of them (the biggest dinos were vegetarians, t-rex and the other only handful predators were compared to their prey also very small already) to compensate that, same for the plants, they became giant because sun light was less = less glucose for them. In addition the atmosphere was thinner/less dense and generated less pressure, and the temperatures were much higher. The flora was very different from what we know today. We could not live under the conditions under which the dinos lived, we would choke to death due to oxygen deficiency, be poisoned by higher amounts of nitrogen, aerosoles, sulfur etc, and the lower density/pressure would cause all sorts of side effects to which we are not adapted. So messing around with the composition of the atmosphere might not be the best of all ideas.

    While there are smart people trying to make use of the increased algae growth (due to warmer water and higher nutrition brought into the seas), the truth is that algae growth causes dead water zones, of which north and east sea already have a lot as well. Dead water contains no more oxygen, no fish, no corals, no micro organisms, no oxygen producing bacteria, no nothing anymore and these zones grow with each algae blossom event due to increased "nutrition" (CO² and fertilizers being washed into the oceans). Of course it's all "good" for the algae, but it's very bad for every other life around.

    The atmosphere and ecosystems are quite fragile, and even though CO² makes only ~0,4% of our atmosphere (which is 3000 giga tons), this is now almost twice as high as it was 200 years ago, in ice ages it was 190 parts per million, in warmer periods it was ~280 parts per million, for at least the last 800,000 years (based on ice core data) it was always lower than 300ppm. Today, since the industrialisation, it's over 400 parts per million, which is probably the highest concentration since 15-20mio years. CO² is the most effective green house gas due to its absorbtion and reflection properties of light waves = tempartures and climate. While it's main responsible for an inhabitable, cosy planet with medium temperatures (without green house gases, to which also methane, sulfur dioxide, ozon belong (and methane is even more climate potent), temps would be a 'global annual average' of -18° and not the cosy +15° we have), we better be careful of what we invoke.

    Melting ice poles, rising sea levels, record summers with 40° and more, draughts, dying forests, shifting seasons, increased pest populations, tropic insects making Europe their home, Sweden becomesa wine producer country, melting perma frost (which even endangers the Alps, that is the mountains itself, without permafrost they erode), dying glaciers which are our fresh water resource... When I was a child, I was playing in the snow each winter. I think I saw snow (not just sugar coats that melt away in a few hours) the last time in 2009, which was an El Ninó year. There might even be photos of that somewhere on the forum LOL. Havent seen snow since then. Winter, it seems, is no longer a yearly season, but one that occurs only every ten years. Really "hot" summer days (not weeks) went to like 35°, the average was way below that. Now we have weeks of 36°+, no more rain, burning moors (because they fall dry), sand storms, growing tornados (we used to call them wind trousers which sometimes threw off some loose parts of roofs, now they throw over cars) and record days go up to 42°. But yeah, it's all normal, nothing to see here...

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    Oh Velvet ... soon ''rednecks'' replies : Fake News .

    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet
    Indeed, the atmosphere at the times of the dinos was very different, and while dinos, reptiles(!) could make use of this different atmosphere, mammals (and they only appear at the end of the dino age on the scene anyway) were tiny, because the low oxygen level could not support mammal metabolism that had allowed them to grow bigger.
    Perhaps we are able to see that ''difference'' even better via species which still exists today.

    Permian period:





    Today:




    Scientists says that upper ones could not fly/stay in air ... our atmosphere.

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    Co2... Ah, yes, that's what comes in those little metal cartridges I use as compressed propellant gas in my pellet arms.

    So this is the reason the plants in our sanctuary are flourishing so well. It's a side-effect caused by the the dispersal of Co2 gas from my pellet arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    When I was a child, I was playing in the snow each winter. I think I saw snow (not just sugar coats that melt away in a few hours) the last time in 2009, which was an El Ninó year. There might even be photos of that somewhere on the forum LOL. Havent seen snow since then. Winter, it seems, is no longer a yearly season, but one that occurs only every ten years.


    A very nasty winter was announced for this year. You may just get that snow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mööv View Post
    A very nasty winter was announced for this year. You may just get that snow
    Of course looking things via one place only will not tell much (only if we look/compare that same place with very long period). It is whole Earth.

    Theoretically speaking ... if global warming continues and if that will weakener Gulf stream ... we might face the situation: Northern Europe/Scandinavia will turn to get colder (temporary) even as most of the other places will become warmer.

    Lots of pieces on this puzzle.

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    How about those CO2 cartridges to make carbonated water?
    I have one of those bottles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwab View Post
    How about those CO2 cartridges to make carbonated water?
    I have one of those bottles.
    Greta disapproves.
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    Is Greta a millionaire yet?
    Was she under the weather during her speech?

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