View Poll Results: How do you categorize Meds and Semites?

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  • Both are White and Aryan.

    22 7.89%
  • Meds are White but not Aryan.

    47 16.85%
  • Meds and Semites are White but not Aryan.

    22 7.89%
  • Meds are White and Aryan; Semites are neither.

    145 51.97%
  • Both are White but not Aryan.

    16 5.73%
  • Neither are White nor Aryan.

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Thread: What separates Meds from Semites?

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    Post Re: What separates Meds from Semites?

    Here is a Palestinian woman from Al Khalil, I don't think she is typical of Palestinians (actually they seem lighter if you look at the Hamas website) but she is a good example of a Semite type. I see a big difference between her and southern Europeans, dark Welsh like Catherine Zeta Jones, dark Brits, and so-called black Irish.


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    Post Re: What separates Meds from Semites?

    but she is a good example of a Semite type.
    That would be "Orientalid", eh?

    Semite is still not a racial term.

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    Post Re: What separates Meds from Semites?

    According to Czekanowski, the Orientalids are an ancient blend of Armenoids with Nigrids (root-race of the Black sub-species). They had nothing to do with Meds, although today in Middle-Eastern melting pot, rarely one can see a pure Orientalid.

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    Post Re: What separates Meds from Semites?

    I pretty much doubt that,

    Orientalids are more ancient than Armenoids, and probably all other subraces further North. They're just the next step away from Berbers in the direction of Mediterranids. I assume...

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    Post Re: What separates Meds from Semites?

    Quote Originally Posted by lg
    Here is a Palestinian woman from Al Khalil, I don't think she is typical of Palestinians (actually they seem lighter if you look at the Hamas website) but she is a good example of a Semite type. I see a big difference between her and southern Europeans, dark Welsh like Catherine Zeta Jones, dark Brits, and so-called black Irish.

    Palestinians are very darked skinned people (sometimes hard to discern between them and Egyptians)...Recently, the Ottoman Empire had a lot to do with the alteration of the genetics in Palestinians...many light Palestinians have Turkish ancestry, on top of that, Palestinian tradition is spliced with Ottoman (which in itself has foreign roots)...that is to say, that womans clothing is nothing close to traditional Arabic...deffinnetly not acceptable in any Muslim countries as clothing for a woman.

    I don't understand how you can classify a linguistic group and represent it by a single woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kel`Thuz
    According to Czekanowski, the Orientalids are an ancient blend of Armenoids with Nigrids (root-race of the Black sub-species). They had nothing to do with Meds, although today in Middle-Eastern melting pot, rarely one can see a pure Orientalid.
    If the middle east is a melting pot, and the orientalids are a mixed raced mulato race, then sure, the Orientalids can be found in their most pure state in the "Middle-East."

    Quote Originally Posted by Funk
    I pretty much doubt that,

    Orientalids are more ancient than Armenoids, and probably all other subraces further North. They're just the next step away from Berbers in the direction of Mediterranids. I assume...
    If Orientalid is a blend (which it is) then it cannot predate that of a non-blend alpha race (Armenoid).

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    Post Re: What separates Meds from Semites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Von Braun
    You are a pseudo-National Socialist. You are insulting the great Mediterranean white men of the past involved in that movement, and the non-Mediterranean white people who associated with them and/or followed them.

    According to the SNPA site, Nordics diverged from Mediterraneans since the end of the last ice age. That is less than 12,000 years ago. That splintering included some morphological changes, but mainly pigment changes in hair and eyes. Historically, "white" refers to groups of people (who seem to be related) with skin pigmentation of a certain value or less. Yes, no one is white like a sheet of paper. What I don't understand is what skin color has to do with eye color or hair color. Granted, very dark, almost black eyes are usually, if not always, associated with groups of humans with skin tones too dark to be considered white (and thus probably not of our clade). What I am getting at is your incinuation that one who does not have both light hair and light eyes, but light skin, all of a sudden loses his status as a white person is absurd.

    Again, what does hair color and eye color have to do with what has historically been seen as the primary, most readily-identifiable-from-a-distance feature (although by no means at all the only salient feature), skin pigmentation?
    So the white race only began when the mutations for light hair and light eyes occured, circa 10,000 YBP? x_rofl

    The fact is there are skeletons that pre-date this that are morphologically white in every way. There are men who have lighter eyes than me who look similar to me, there are men who have darker eyes than I do and who look like me (since I am in the middle here), and guess what: after we all die, in several thousand years anthropologists would classify all of us as Europid.
    This is the most resonable thing I read about meds of my life. Clever reply, my brave. All I can do is but agree with you. I even wander if nordics are closer to meds than to blue eyed and blond haired east baltics... otherwise how do you explain the fact that nordics and mediterraneans are the only european groups to be dolichocephalid, while the other (east-baltics, alpins and dinarids) are all brachycephalid? Mr Von Braun gives us the answer in this post.

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    Post Re: What separates Meds from Semites?

    It depends on which group you are talking about. The Greeks and southern Italians are closely related to Middle Eastern and North African populations. Iberians, on the other hand, are more closely related to other western Europeans.
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    Post Re: Von Braun

    Quote Originally Posted by lg
    Von Braun is saying "don't say this about Meds, don't say that." Just a couple of weeks ago he was talking about how Nordic he is and now he's champion of the Med cause.
    I'm sorry but I don't see what's wrong about that:there's nothing contradictory there. The fact that's he's proud about how nordic he is does not mean that he must be intolerant to other europid ethnic groups.

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    The reason nativists in America wanted to restrict immigration from Southern Europe had nothing to do with intelligence or culture...Mediterranean behavior was markedly more criminal... What's the first thing Italians and Sicilans did when they came to America? Organized crime. QUOTE]

    There's a lot to discuss about that;Italian Maffias are very well known for respecting a Code of honnor which means to not to kill women... and what to say about the old west's outlaws like Jesse & Frank James, the Dalton bross, Bill Doolin, Billy the Kid, the younger brothers, Butch Cassidy & Sundance kids, Sam Bass, John Wesley Harding etc etc:all those perfect americans of english & irish origins??? do you think they did better than the italian maffiosi??? I daresay they were worst because they did not hesitate to make trains going out of the rails or shooting in the crowd regardless of the presence of women and children.
    James-Younger gang's robberies were reputed for making inocent deads (though unintentioned most of times, I admit it) , a thing scarcelly happened with the maffias...or less often

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    Post Re: What separates Meds from Semites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vetinari
    It depends on which group you are talking about. The Greeks and southern Italians are closely related to Middle Eastern and North African populations. Iberians, on the other hand, are more closely related to other western Europeans.
    Depends on what sort of genetic relation we're talking about.
    If it's about Y-chromosome ancestry, then, yes, especially considering that
    Greeks launched many very sucessful invasions on the middle-east.
    Or, if we consider that some 10.000 years ago Neolithic populations spread with agriculture FROM the Middle-east to Europe.

    But, Y isn't exactly very good for determining what the exact, full genetic composition a population is.

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    Post Re: What separates Meds from Semites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awar
    Depends on what sort of genetic relation we're talking about.
    If it's about Y-chromosome ancestry, then, yes, especially considering that
    Greeks launched many very sucessful invasions on the middle-east.
    Or, if we consider that some 10.000 years ago Neolithic populations spread with agriculture FROM the Middle-east to Europe.

    But, Y isn't exactly very good for determining what the exact, full genetic composition a population is.
    The Y-chromosome is useful for determining what effect male invaders had on a population. The fact that northern, western and eastern European Y-chromosomes tend to be unlike those of the Middle East would indicate that there was no significant spreading of Middle Eastern populations into Europe except for southeastern regions such as Greece.

    http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publication...p1023-1034.pdf

    http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publication...4_v12_p855.pdf

    http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publication...1_p270-279.pdf

    http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publication..._v68_p1019.pdf
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