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    Last Great Classical Music Composer?

    Modern art thread caused me create this thread (and partly as I'm not expert on classical music).

    Who is (in your opinion) the last someway ''great global level'' classical music composer?

    Wagner born 1813
    Smetana born 1824
    Tšaikovsky born 1840
    Grieg born 1843
    Sibelius born 1865 (died 1957)
    ...?

    I know that we have classical music composers even today, but for me ... that music (I have heard) is like ''modern art'' (the another thread).

    The same comes bit more interesting if we'll except among some of famous film music composers ...

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    Besides Sibelius, Richard Strauss (1864-1949) and Sergei Rachmaninoff (1873-1943.) I name them because they are the last really original and world-renowned composers who created music with beauty that was not strange. Bartok, Prokofiev, and Shostakovich came later, but their music is too modern and full of angst to be considered to be of the same world as older composers.

    If you want to define "classical" in the strict sense, though, Schubert was the last "classical" composer. Strauss and Rachmaninoff actually belong to the "romantic" school that followed the classical era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodman John View Post
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    One could perhaps add Ralph Vaughn-Williams (1872-1958) to the list, if one could consider him "great."

    Again, depending upon one's definition of "great," Samuel Barber (1910-1981) was maybe the last, though again, most people only know his "Adagio for Strings," which is classically proportioned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    Besides Sibelius, Richard Strauss (1864-1949) and Sergei Rachmaninoff (1873-1943.) I name them because they are the last really original and world-renowned composers who created music with beauty that was not strange. Bartok, Prokofiev, and Shostakovich came later, but their music is too modern and full of angst to be considered to be of the same world as older composers.

    If you want to define "classical" in the strict sense, though, Schubert was the last "classical" composer. Strauss and Rachmaninoff actually belong to the "romantic" school that followed the classical era.
    How well you know Sibelius? He worked very long time with his last 8th symphony and finally burn all the papers just before his death 1957 (never get it finished ... he was perfectionist). People though it was lost totally but late 1990's researchers found some of Sibelius note papers ... and came to results that they were related to his 8th symphony. Do you think it should be reconstruct (as much as possible) ... as he is really more than normal human (and so is his music to Finland) ... ''National Treasures'' .... or respect his own decision?

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    Quote Originally Posted by finnish swede View Post
    how well you know sibelius? He worked very long time with his last 8th symphony and finally burn all the papers just before his death 1957 (never get it finished ... He was perfectionist). People though it was lost totally but late 1990's researchers found some of sibelius note papers ... And came to results that they were related to his 8th symphony. Do you think it should be reconstruct (as much as possible) ... As he is really more than normal human (and so is his music to finland) ... ''national treasures'' .... Or respect his own decision?
    The more a composition is a "reconstruction," that is, the more elements that must be guessed at, the less the work becomes one of the original composer's. It depends how much is there to look at, but if most of it is supposition, then I would say leave it alone.

    You speaking of lost compositions reminds me of Geirr Tveitt (1908-1981) and the unfortunate fate of the bulk of his music when his home burned down. We will never know what we all lost there. He was not exactly a world-renowned composer, but he wrote some beautiful music. Here's a taste:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    The more a composition is a "reconstruction," that is, the more elements that must be guessed at, the less the work becomes one of the original composer's. It depends how much is there to look at, but if most of it is supposition, then I would say leave it alone.
    Oh, I think they just have some parts of it, but they could never reconstruct it totally.

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    According to Nietzsche, that would be Mozart.

    Between Beethoven and Wagner's music, I'd say that Wagner's was more attuned to nature.

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