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    Who Doesnt Want to Hear the Other Sides View?

    Source: Medium

    People with left-wing/liberal views are more likely to block or unfriend their ideological counterparts than those with right-wing/conservative views.

    The day after the 2015 UK General Election, Rebecca Roachewho is now a Senior Lecturer in Philosophy at Royal Hollowaywrote a blog post entitled, If youre a Conservative, Im not your friend. She began her blog post with the following statement:

    One of the first things I did after seeing the depressing election news this morning was check to see which of my Facebook friends like the pages of the Conservatives or David Cameron, and unfriend them. (Thankfully, none of my friends like the UKIP page.)

    Was Dr Roaches decision an isolated incident, or was it part of a more general tendency for people with left-wing/liberal views to block or unfriend their ideological counterparts? In an attempt to answer this question, I tracked down as many relevant surveys and polls as I could. The results are presented below.

    In 2012, Pew Research found that liberals were more likely than conservatives to have blocked, unfriended

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    In 2014, YouGov found that Labour and Liberal Democrat supporters were much more likely to say they would find it harder to be friends with someone who became a UKIP supporter than vice versa.

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    In 2014, Pew Research replicated their 2012 result, finding that consistent liberals were more likely than conservatives to have blocked, unfriended or hidden someone they disagreed with on Facebook.

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    In 2015, StatsSocial found that right-wing twitter users were more likely to follow left-wing pundits than vice versa. On average, 34% of users following the top 50 left-wing pundits were right-wing, whereas only 26% of users following the top 50 right-wing pundits were left-wing.

    In 2016, the Public Religion Research Institute found that Democrats were more likely than Republicans to have blocked, unfriended or stopped following someone they disagreed with on social networking sites.

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    In 2016, Demos found that Conservative supporters were slightly more likely to have retweeted Labour or SNP supporters than vice versa. However, they also found that UKIP supporters were no more likely to have retweeted Labour or SNP supporters than vice versa.

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    In 2016, YouGov found that Conservative supporters were less likely to say they would be upset if their child married someone who supported Labour, and that Republicans were less likely to say they would be upset if their child married a Democrat.

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    In 2017, Pew Research found that Democrats were much more likely to say that a friend voting for Trump would put a strain on their friendship than Republicans were to say that a friend voting for Hillary Clinton would put a strain on their friendship.

    In 2017, The Dartmouth (a college newspaper) found that Democrats were much more likely than Republicans to say they would be uncomfortable having a roommate with opposing political views to their own.

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    In 2017, The Cato institute found that Hillary Clinton voters were much more likely to say they would find it hard to be friends with a Donald Trump voter than vice versa.

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    In 2018 the The Dartmouth replicated their 2017 result, finding that Democrats were much more likely than Republicans to say they would be disinclined to befriend another student who had political beliefs opposite from their own.

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    In 2018, YouGov confirmed that Labour and Remain supporters were more less likely to have friends with different political views than were Conservative and Leave supporters.

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    In 2018, a paper by Dr Joseph Yoo and his colleagues found that liberals were more likely than conservatives to unfriend others on social media (although they were no more likely to hide or unfollow others on Facebook).

    In 2019, Dr Gregory Eady and his colleagues confirmed that conservatives were more likely to follow left-leaning social media accounts than liberals were to follow right-leaning social media account.

    In 2019, YouGov found that Leave voters were much more likely to say they wouldnt mind at all if a close relative married someone who supported Remain than vice versa.

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    In 2019, Dr Matt Goodwin and Dr Aleksandra Cichocka confirmed that Leave supporters were less likely than Remain supporters to distance themselves from people on the other side when it came to acquaintances, co-workers, neighbours, friends, and potential marriage partners for their children.

    In 2019, the Public Religion Research Institute found that Democrats were more likely to say they would be unhappy if their son or daughter married a Republican than vice versa.

    It should be noted that not all the evidence goes in the same direction. For example, a 2012 paper in Public Opinion Quarterly reported that Republicans were more likely than Democrats to say they would be unhappy if their child married someone from the opposite party. And a 2016 survey by Professor Lynn Vavreck found no difference between supporters of the two parties.

    Overall however, the weight of evidence (especially the most recent evidence) indicates that Dr Roaches decision was not an isolated incident. Of course, it might simply be that people with left-wing/liberal views are more willing to admit to disengaging from their ideological opponents.
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    I have made the experience that politically left winged persons are more intolerant than right winged ones in general. They take their political attitude with them into every part of life and distance themselves from people who disagree with them politically. Especially left winged women are very intolerant and tend to radicalism. It is rather difficult to win their friendships when they know who you are. People with right wing/nationalist views are more tolerant and tend to push aside political views in personal acquaintances.
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    I'm more than willing to listen to the other side's views but they will never elaborate on them.

    I suspect this is because, when probed, their claims don't add up so they shun their opponents (and shout insults instead) rather than having to defend what they're saying.

    One thing I'd love to debate with Lefties - and I'd give any amount of time to get to the bottom of this - is their assertion that "immigrants are good for the economy".

    This has been their mantra for the past half a century, repeated ad nauseam, and nobody in the (((MSM))) has ever challenged it. I'm sure there's a good reason for this

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    I'm more than happy to listen to the other guy's views and opinions, even if I ultimately don't agree with them, on one simple condition: it doesn't get personal. I'll debate politics, religion, sex, rock and roll, or brands of knitting needles all day long- but as soon as you attack me personally calling me ignorant or an idiot or something of that nature, it's over. I don't do ad hominem attacks, and I expect- and require- the same courtesy in return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodman John View Post
    I'm more than happy to listen to the other guy's views and opinions, even if I ultimately don't agree with them, on one simple condition: it doesn't get personal. I'll debate politics, religion, sex, rock and roll, or brands of knitting needles all day long- but as soon as you attack me personally calling me ignorant or an idiot or something of that nature, it's over. I don't do ad hominem attacks, and I expect- and require- the same courtesy in return.
    I concur.

    Also, when interaction between members discussing a controversial topic indicates increasing hostility, I prefer to quietly bow out, because I realize I can't rationally alter the views of those who exhibit a different perspective on an important issue... And exchanging insults is ridiculous.
    Aside from an ever increasing number of mortals who have willfully chosen to worship Satan and his minions, our battle has always been against the powers and principalities operating surreptitiously throughout this twisted world.

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    I think it is always good to try to know as much as possible. Look & value different matters from different sides. And only after that create your personal opinion. By then other people can not influence you easily.

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    "Immigrants are good for the economy" as long as we can keep them working for the lowest wages possible..............been there at one time.

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