Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Social Isolation

  1. #1
    Wild Cat
    "Friend of Germanics"
    Skadi Funding Member

    Gareth Lee Hunter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Last Online
    @
    Status
    Available
    Ethnicity
    English/German American
    Ancestry
    England and Germany
    Country
    United States United States
    State
    Indiana Indiana
    Location
    A peaceful oasis.
    Gender
    Zodiac Sign
    Cancer
    Family
    Married
    Occupation
    I work at home.
    Politics
    Not a Republicrat.
    Religion
    Nondenominational Christian
    Posts
    1,424
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    3,832
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,841
    Thanked in
    921 Posts

    Social Isolation

    My simple advice to correct this pervasive social malady is for totally distracted individuals to put down their phones, game controllers, and Jew Tube remotes, and start learning to socialize again the way normal human beings do.

    "When it comes to property and human capital, our postmodern society is wealthier than ever. In terms of social capital, we are slowly inching toward the poverty line, metaphorically speaking. “Social capital,” which seems to be declining at an alarming rate, refers to the social networks of relationships among people who live in a particular society and the norms of reciprocity, trust, and cooperation to which those networks give rise. Social Capital Theory posits that our lives are made more productive with social ties. Just as we have basic needs for food, water and shelter, the need for social connection is crucial to our well-being. Sadly, as our communities are unraveling, Americans are becoming more isolated and disengaged than ever before.
    The weakening of community networks didn’t just occur overnight

    Since the 1980s, the percentage of American adults who report being lonely has doubled from 20 percent to 40 percent. More than a quarter of the population lives alone, and marriage rates and number of kids per household are dropping. According to researchers, formal group membership in professional and local community organizations has declined by 10–20 percent over the last five decades. Participation in social groups has been on a downward slope for years and it only appears to continue today.


    As our civic engagement declines, so too does our civil engagement. Not surprisingly, recent analyses have suggested that widespread smartphone use has diminished the quality of our interpersonal exchanges. It has become acceptable to ignore texts and emails. If an invitation or even a salutation to a friend was extended in person, and the response was no response, this would be considered rude at the very least. But today, with texting and emailing becoming our primary modes of communication, this type of dismissive behavior has become the norm. And norms are what shape societies."


    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/nurturing-self-compassion/201901/isolation-nation
    Aside from an ever increasing number of mortals who have willfully chosen to worship Satan and his minions, our battle has always been against the powers and principalities operating surreptitiously throughout this twisted world.

  2. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Gareth Lee Hunter For This Useful Post:


  3. #2
    Senior Member schwab's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2018
    Last Online
    1 Week Ago @ 05:25 PM
    Status
    Prolonged Absence
    Ethnicity
    Alsatian/Suevi
    Ancestry
    germanic/alsatian/Elsaesser
    Subrace
    Child of Creator God
    Country
    United States United States
    State
    Oregon Oregon
    Gender
    Family
    Married
    Occupation
    retired - Aerospace Quality Engi
    Politics
    independent
    Religion
    Born again Christian,
    Posts
    841
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    769
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,008
    Thanked in
    493 Posts
    Wherever I go these days I see people starring at that little box. Some run into each other. In waiting rooms, 8 out of 10 are fingering a gadget. Nobody talks to each other anymore, no use to start a conversation.
    But then again, I'm old school, very old school. I bet I'm the oldest one on this site.
    Talk to somebody today!

    Name:  MVC-002X.JPG
Views: 50
Size:  275.7 KB

  4. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to schwab For This Useful Post:


  5. #3
    Account Inactive Nordmann's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Last Online
    Tuesday, September 3rd, 2019 @ 12:09 AM
    Ethnicity
    Child of God Empire Germany
    Location
    Heimat aller Deutschen
    Gender
    Occupation
    Richtungsweiser
    Politics
    WIR SIND MILLIONEN DU BIST EINER
    Religion
    Vollendete Blüte
    Posts
    483
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    45
    Thanked in
    38 Posts
    If you ask yourself, why the Internet was made public.

    When it comes to power and influence in the world, nothing happens without reason and cause.

    Internet was made public for a reason, because it's about control. Ethology.
    Last edited by Chlodovech; Wednesday, August 14th, 2019 at 09:55 PM. Reason: No German on this subforum, thanks.

  6. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Nordmann For This Useful Post:


  7. #4
    The lion's gate Chlodovech's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    5 Hours Ago @ 01:19 AM
    Ethnicity
    Flemish
    Ancestry
    Frankish
    Country
    Holy Roman Empire Holy Roman Empire
    Gender
    Politics
    Völkisch traditionalist
    Religion
    Catholic
    Posts
    3,311
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,601
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,741
    Thanked in
    1,212 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech
    Excerpt: "My wife still goes to mass with me, but just out of habit. When I stand there listening to Fr give his cheerful but empty homilies, I think about what’s keeping me from going home and blowing my brains out."
    Male Loneliness In Suburbia



    By Rod Dreher • August 10, 2019

    From the mailbag, this powerful testimony. I have very lightly edited this to protect the writer’s privacy:

    "Mr. Dreher,

    The things you have been writing lately about alienated young men and mass shootings prompt me to reach out to you. I am not a young man anymore, but I am dealing with things that I did not imagine I would be when I was young and newly married. Back then, everything made sense. I feel like I need to tell my story.

    My background is that I am a successful businessman (a kind of consultant) living in a well-to-do suburb of a Southern city. My wife and I married relatively early, and had two kids. The boys are in good colleges in other states. They are getting ready to head back to school next week. It has been a real pleasure having them here this summer. Our house becomes a tomb when they are not around.

    Four years ago, my wife told me that she didn’t want to be married to me anymore. After almost 30 years, she had had enough. I did not see that coming. We almost never fought. We used to go to dinner together, take family vacations, do things together, etc etc. She just said that she thought she had hitched herself to a man too young, and now that the boys were older and out of the house, she was reconsidering her life. I asked her if there was another man. She said no, and eventually I believed her. I asked her if she wanted a divorce. She said probably so, but she wanted to wait until the boys got out of school. She is a reasonable person with a finance background, and knows that a divorce would cost us a lot at a time when we are supporting two kids in college.

    She has a job she loves. I work from a home office. I was so glad when my company gave me the chance to do this. I miss the friendships in the office, but when you talk on your blog about wokeness in the workplace, I always find myself nodding along. A few years back, my company started getting engaged with “diversity and inclusivity” in the workplace. I noticed that every time they would run us all through one of those seminars, we would all come out of it more suspicious of each other. It was crazy. It was as if our bosses were trying to poison the office environment. I got to the point where as a white male, I saw my co-workers as potentially the people who would try to get me fired if I said one wrong thing by mistake. They might have seen me that way too. It was crazy. The more management pushed “diversity and inclusivity,” the more anxious things felt in the office. When the company was restructuring and offered people in my division the chance to work at home, I jumped at it, just to get out of that tense environment.

    It was a blessing at first, but nowadays I wonder if that was the right thing to do. The idea of working from home seems great, until you realize that you don’t see people at all. I have a nice home office where I put in my 9 to 5, which is really more like 8 to 7, but everybody does that. If I’m being truthful, I stay in my office longer than I have to on most days, because there is nothing for me outside of it. My wife used to be my best friend. Now we just share a house and a bed. She has friends from her office, and goes out with them a lot. When all this started, I honestly thought she was seeing some guy. I’m not going into the details, but I’m truly convinced that she’s not. She’s just hanging out with other middle-aged women who are sick of their husbands too.

    I used to think only men behaved like that. Mother and Daddy have both passed away, but they had a good marriage. Some of their friends got divorced when I was a kid, and it was always the man leaving his wife for a younger woman. They were very judgmental of them, but in a way I still think was right. They were Southern people (I think you know what I mean, Mr. Dreher), and that meant that they thought it was dishonorable for a man to do his wife like that. I internalized that honor code, and have always lived by it, and my Catholic faith. If my wife demands a divorce, I will give it to her, but I won’t marry again. How could I go through an annulment? I can’t say truthfully that this was not really a marriage. I meant it when I said my vows, and I believe my wife did too. I am not going to make bastards of my sons because my wife abandoned me and I want to be married again. Besides, there would be no marrying again for me anyway. I look at myself in the mirror — mid to late 50s, half-bald, pot belly, etc etc. What woman would want me even if I was free to marry her?

    I was an only child, so I have no close family to speak of. We are Catholics. My faith is just about the only thing that keeps me going through all this, but it’s thin. My wife refuses to see a marriage counselor. I made the first steps to getting an appointment to talk to our priest, but I gave up because that was hopeless. I feel bad for our priest. He’s managing a big suburban parish all on his own. It would have taken forever to get an appointment, and there was no way he was going to be able to give us the time it would take to save our marriage, especially given that my wife doesn’t want to save it. Besides, there is nothing I’ve ever heard our priest say that tells me he is a man who could help us. He talks like one of those life coaches our company used to bring in for team building exercises, a guy who gets all his ideas from Hallmark cards.

    She still goes to mass with me, but just out of habit. When I stand there listening to Fr give his cheerful but empty homilies, I think about what’s keeping me from going home and blowing my brains out. I’m not going to do this because I’m scared of pain and I’m scared of going to Hell. Also, I don’t want to hurt the boys, and make them feel like they did something to cause it or give them something to be ashamed of. However, I think a lot about how little I have to live for anymore. I am not even sure that the boys think of me much, except as “Good Old Dad”…

    Nobody can see it. I stand there in church, wearing my coat and tie, and people probably think I have it all together. We drive nice cars, we live in a nice house in a good neighborhood, etc, etc. I am grateful to have a good job that has allowed me to provide for my family. By all the world’s standards, I’m doing well. I have “white privilege.”

    What a joke. When I first started working in my home office, I would dress up in a coat, no tie, and dress pants to go to “work.” It felt right to hang on to that habit. Since my marriage fell apart, I notice that some days I don’t even get out of my pajamas. I sit there at my nice desk doing all my work on my laptop, and go right back to bed at the end of the day without even taking a shower. I know this is pathetic, and if the boys were still at home, I would know to keep up appearances. This is my life.

    When the boys graduate and don’t have to depend on us, I guess that will mean Decision Time. I will probably move out, though to all rights we ought to sell the house. I remember the day we bought it, and talking with my wife about that big dining room, and how we looked forward to the kids coming home with their wives and children for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Oh, we sure had big plans for that dining room. We bought a house with a fireplace because we dreamed about sitting around it with the grandchildren. All that is over now, and not because I wanted it to be. I feel so powerless. Maybe I would stay here if either one of the boys moved back, but given the fields they have chosen, I don’t look for that to happen, and even if it did, we would just be keeping up appearances for their sake. Southern people are real good at that, as you know.

    What prompted me to write to you is your writings about the loneliness crisis. I am not some white trash 22 y.o. living in a trailer somewhere, playing video games, and living off his Mama, but I am completely isolated in my life. My “video game” is Excel spreadsheets. The friends I had back in the happier days were all “couples friends” through my wife. When she said she didn’t want to be married to me, we stopped having people over, and stopped accepting invitations to other people’s houses. After a few years, those invitations stopped coming. I tried to keep up these friendships with the husbands, but it was awkward. I told a couple of the guys I was closest to about the mess in my marriage, and they seemed sympathetic, but there wasn’t a lot they could do. They all had kids, and their couples friends. Two or three times I went to their dinner parties by myself, but you talk about awkward! I was embarrassed by it all, and just quit going. I miss those guys, and I even miss their wives. We used to be happy all together.

    If this is “white privilege,” screw it. I stopped by the shoe repair shop a couple of weeks ago, and there were some black guys my age sitting around talking and laughing with each other. I envied them. I probably make 10 or 15 times more than them, but they are probably rich in ways that I used to be before I went “bankrupt.” I would trade all this so-called “white privilege” for a happy marriage, a strong family, and good friends. Mother and Daddy didn’t have a lot of money, but at least they had that. They also had a small-town church where they felt at home. How can anybody feel at home in a big parish like mine? I was taught to be charitable, especially to the clergy, and I do feel bad for our priest, who is carrying a heavy load. But this ain’t church. I’ve gotten to the point where I sit there during mass and I wonder how many of those men in the pews are just like me: barely holding it together, wondering what the hell we’re living for, ignored by our wives, and starving for friendship. God feels so far away. I have never doubted His existence, but these days, He feels like the Pope — a nice man who lives far away and who doesn’t see us.

    I know I sound like I’m feeling sorry for myself. I guess I am. But damn it, I didn’t think things were going to work out like this. I did everything I was supposed to do, and it all fell to pieces anyway. I’m racking my brains trying to figure out how I can fix this, but my wife doesn’t want it to be fixed. She just wants out. I recognize that I am privileged economically and socially, but I’m here to tell you that if you were a working man who drove by my house, and saw me out front mowing our big lawn, you would think I had it made. In fact, you would be looking at a dead man, at a man who secretly hopes he falls over from a heart attack so he doesn’t have to keep carrying this weight of loneliness. At this point, my only purpose in life is to do what I have to do so my sons can have a good life or think they have a good life, until they get to my age and it falls to shit, and they end up doing just what their Good Old Dad is doing.

    The thought just occurred to me as I’m writing this that the only real reason we will have to keep our household together after our sons graduate is if one of them can’t find a job, and has to live with us. That’s a sorry state to be in, knowing that the only thing that would keep you and your wife together is an unemployed grown-up child.

    I appreciate the opportunity to get this off of my chest. I like reading your blog because even though it’s depressing sometimes, I feel like you talk about the real world, which is more than I get from my priest. I would just ask your readers to keep in mind that when they see people at church, in the store, and at other places, that those people might be suffering in ways that are not obvious. You think folks have it made, but they don’t. You see me getting out of my [luxury car brand] at church, with my wife, and we’re all dressed up and smiling, but from my very jaded perspective, we’re dead people who have no future. At least my wife has the girls from the office.

    I’ve thought about asking my manager if I can come back to the office, but I know that’s not a solution. I’m the Great White Male, the source of all evil in the world. Given my run of luck, it would be about right for somebody to falsely accuse me of something, and end up taking away the last I have left from what started out as an American dream. I’d end up jobless and poor, and then the gun to the head might not seem so scary after all.

    Sorry. Thanks for listening."

    I’m so sorry, brother. I can agree that working from home is a blessing in most ways, but it exacerbates loneliness in ways I could not have foreseen.

    I wish Walker Percy was still alive to write this man’s story. Maybe he already did.

    Source: The American Conservative
    “Every integral man has inside him, in his heart of hearts, a mystic center around which all else revolves. This mystic whirling lends unity to his thoughts and actions; it helps him find or invent the cosmic harmony. For some this center is love, for others kindness or beauty, others the thirst for knowledge or the longing for gold and power. They examine the relative value of all else and subordinate it to this central passion.” - Nikos Kazantzakis, 'Report to Greco'

  8. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Chlodovech For This Useful Post:


  9. #5
    Grand Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last Online
    Thursday, October 31st, 2019 @ 04:26 AM
    Ethnicity
    English
    Ancestry
    English, Anglo-Saxon
    Country
    England England
    Location
    South Coast
    Gender
    Zodiac Sign
    Aries
    Family
    Married
    Occupation
    Self Employed
    Politics
    Free Speech / Anti-EU
    Religion
    Pagan
    Posts
    5,040
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,584
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,601
    Thanked in
    1,395 Posts
    Social isolation is a growing problem and the above case is a tragic one

    What do you do though? Staying single may prevent this particular scenario but it virtually ensures loneliness in your old age

  10. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to SaxonPagan For This Useful Post:


  11. #6
    Senior Member Coillearnach's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Online
    4 Hours Ago @ 02:43 AM
    Ethnicity
    Anglo-American
    Ancestry
    Anglo-Celtic
    Country
    Confederate States Confederate States
    Gender
    Age
    31
    Family
    Married
    Occupation
    Vagrant
    Politics
    Nativism/Nationalism
    Religion
    Summum bonum
    Posts
    313
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    246
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    216
    Thanked in
    106 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech View Post
    The idea of working from home seems great, until you realize that you don’t see people at all. I have a nice home office where I put in my 9 to 5, which is really more like 8 to 7, but everybody does that. If I’m being truthful, I stay in my office longer than I have to on most days, because there is nothing for me outside of it.
    This is also why women these days don't exactly jump at the chance to be stay-at-home-mothers anymore. It is complete isolation - no authentic community, no family, your only friends (if you are so lucky to have any adults at all to talk to) are women you probably have nothing in common with other than being at home who are, more likely than not, also depressed and angry.

    Modern life sucks and what's more is that people haven't evolved to live like this, we had thousands and thousands of years to adjust to agriculturization, industrialization has just happened, it hasn't been even the blink of an eye. Truth be told, who knows if humanity can even really survive this kind of transition, as soon as work moves out of the home it completely atomizes daily life and that coupled with increased longevity puts religion in the coffin.

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to Coillearnach For This Useful Post:


  13. #7
    Senior Member schwab's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2018
    Last Online
    1 Week Ago @ 05:25 PM
    Status
    Prolonged Absence
    Ethnicity
    Alsatian/Suevi
    Ancestry
    germanic/alsatian/Elsaesser
    Subrace
    Child of Creator God
    Country
    United States United States
    State
    Oregon Oregon
    Gender
    Family
    Married
    Occupation
    retired - Aerospace Quality Engi
    Politics
    independent
    Religion
    Born again Christian,
    Posts
    841
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    769
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,008
    Thanked in
    493 Posts
    I have been around people now for 83 years. All those years I learned a lot. I noticed that many have no vision. It's work, work and work. That is a must if we want to live a normal life. It takes a certain amount of money to keep up with the life style we want.
    There is another life besides work. What kind of gifts are you born with? What are you doing besides work? Try to put these gifts to work.
    I did not know that I was handy. Over the years I got involved with building and repairing things. I'm an avid gardener that is rewarding in many ways.
    I should be sitting in a rocking chair, I probably would die in it.
    Right now I do carpentry work, I'm building a new deck behind the house. Every evening I make plans for tomorrow. I don't have time to worry what's next.
    A year ago I moved to another state, I have no friends yet besides a 4 generations family. They are all close by. As a Christian I would like to have a home church, I haven't found one yet. Many churches are getting too liberal for me.


    To anyone, what are your gifts? Nurture them...........

  14. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to schwab For This Useful Post:


Similar Threads

  1. Organized Voluntary Isolation
    By aamed in forum Strategic Intelligence
    Replies: 55
    Last Post: Saturday, November 22nd, 2008, 07:10 PM
  2. Prehistoric Glaciation and Isolation of Human Ancestors
    By Oswiu in forum Anthropogeny & Ethnogenesis
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: Monday, October 23rd, 2006, 03:11 PM
  3. Isonymy and isolation by distance in Germany (abstract)
    By Euclides in forum Population Genetics
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Thursday, June 10th, 2004, 02:32 PM
  4. Isolation by Language and Distance in Belgium
    By Euclides in forum Population Genetics
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Sunday, March 14th, 2004, 08:51 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •