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    America Changes As Men Learn About The Dark Triad

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    A PUA thread, yes. For those with or without game.
    Summary: Revolutions begin in the shadows, only emerging when they grow too large to ignore. So it is with “Game”, the 21st-century street science of seduction. It began when men discovered that women love bad boys, men with Dark Triad traits. Game has become a front in the Gender Wars.



    Modern American women love bad boys!

    A new era for women begins

    “During this whole century the progress of artillery has been a duel between the maker of cannons and the maker of armor plates to keep the cannon balls out. You build a ship proof against the best gun known: somebody makes a better gun and sinks your ship. You build a heavier ship, proof against that gun: somebody makes a heavier gun and sinks you again. And so on. Well, the duel of sex is just like that.” — A pick-up artist talking to a first wave feminist in George Bernard Shaw’s play “You Never Can Tell” (1895).

    During the past century, science has forced breaks with the past certainties. For example, traditional State-to-State conventional war became suicidal with the development of nuclear weapons. But every force produces an opposite reaction. The reaction to nuclear weapons was a shift to new forms of conflict such as 4GW, cyberwar, economic war (for more about this see Unrestricted Warfare).

    Similarly, technology created a break in history by allowing women to control their fertility. This made possible the serial social revolutions called feminism, still in motion with ends as yet unseen. Women were emancipated from their families and unleashed from many of society’s restraints. Women’s increased financial independence diminished their need to quickly “settle” – i.e., marry stable male providers (for more about this see these controversial articles in The Atlantic: Feb 2008, March 2008, April 2010). Today women delay that until their late 20s or early 30s.

    Now liberated, women can follow their true natures. One expression of this is Girls’ Game: romance the man, stage the party-of-her-life, marry, have kids, divorce when they are in school — then get community property, child support, and independence. The husband provides support during those first few difficult years of raising children. Then divorce gives a woman the children she wants without the bother of having a husband. It is the logical strategy for women raised to value their independence above all else.

    These changes are more fundamental to society than anything produced by splitting the atom.



    Dark truths from Science

    The results of women’s liberation were foreseen neither by scientists nor social reformers. First, women’s hypergamy was released. That is their drive to seek men of high status (e.g., the combination of wealth, income, status, height, appearance, and charisma). These are called “alpha” men, men of high social rank. It is a term loosely derived from ethology. The benefits of hypergamy to women are obvious.

    Second, society lifted the restraints on women expressing their love of men with the Dark Triad of behavioral traits. Psychology Today describes them. Their appeal is not obvious to most men.

    “Defined as a set of traits that include the tendency (to seek admiration and special treatment (narcissism), to be callous and insensitive (psychopathy)), and to manipulate others (Machiavellianism), the Dark Triad is rapidly becoming a new focus of personality psychology. …

    “The technical definition of the Dark Triad, as stated in Jonason and Webster’s article, is rather daunting: “the Dark Triad as a whole can be thought of as a short-term, agentic, exploitative social strategy…” This means, in simpler terms, that people who show these qualities are trying to get away with acting out against others in order to achieve their own ends. Each of the individual qualities alone can make life difficult for those who know people like this. Combined, the Dark Triad traits in another person close to you can be detrimental to your mental health.”

    Men can take this test to see their level of Dark Triad traits.

    About “Game” – the counter-revolution begins

    The reaction to feminism has begun – in the shadows, as do all revolutions and counter-revolutions.

    As women’s liberation accelerated after WWII, the methods of pick-up artists” (aka “seducers”) evolved as well. Decades of slow experimentation on the streets brought Guy’s Game (aka Game) to maturity in the mid-1990s. It is a crude form of applied psychology developed by men through trial and error. Like alchemy, it is a mixture of fact and superstition used by people working without theory. It began, like most revolutionary actions, with an observation and an insight. Men saw that many women prefer bad boys. Men realized that they could act as bad boys and so increase their odds of success with women. Even pretending, against their natures, works.

    As with other innovations in interpersonal relations – new forms of dancing (e.g., the waltz), divorce, abortion, the pill, rock music, postal boxes on the street – moralists condemn Game as a step on the road to iniquity. Feminists have gained the high ground in control of society’s institutions, and watch with outrage as men act in defiance of the new social norms they seek to impose. They use their power to suppress the spread of this knowledge: publishers don’t publish, YouTube closes down channels, social media ban heretics. I doubt this will succeed.

    Street science: evidence that Game works

    Word of this slowly spread as undernews during the past few decades. While the major media usually ignore Game, hundreds of books, videos, and courses teach men – imperfectly, crudely, often amorally – how to apply these methods in their dealings with 21st-century American women.

    Much of Game consists of learning to pass the tests that women use to identify alphas. Neither the women’s tests nor Game is pretty. Both are acts in a Darwinian conflict, like those seen in nature films of life on Africa’s savannah. These are not the threads from which romantic comedies are woven (but then rom-coms are dying off, as a genre too alien for modern boys and girls).

    What about the rest of us? Successful men living by the social codes of the past are “betas” (e.g., white knights, nice family men, good boys). Men unable to deal with modern women are “omegas”, substituting porn, sports, and computer games for women. These are the brutally honest classifications of street life.

    See these demonstrations providing evidence that Game works.





    Like all skills – painting, marksmanship, selling – not everybody can learn to use Game. Most will not make the necessary effort to achieve mastery. Many who try will fail. But, as with most skills, incremental improvement comes with learning and practice. Often that is enough to make a difference.

    The Dark Triad goes public

    “The Heart wants what it wants – or else it does not care.” — From a letter by Emily Dickenson to her sister, Mrs. Samuel Bowles, 1862.

    Often a catalyst makes the public aware that society has changed. The film 9 1/2 Weeks showcased women’s love of the Dark Triad traits. In 1986 Americans weren’t ready to see that, and it bombed. But it was a success in other nations. See Wikipedia for more about it.



    The 100 million copies sold of Fifty Shades of Grey (2012) – plus its sequels and the films – forced Americans to see this new side of the feminist revolution. It was a discovery more stunning than anything found on the dark side of the moon, although foreshadowed by the chick-lit trope of women falling in love with their bold pirate kidnappers. See Wikipedia for details, if you have not read it.



    The future

    Feminism and Game are the next steps in the evolution away from the nuclear family that began after WWII – and accelerated when Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Family Law Act of 1969 retroactively abolishing the core of the marriage contract.

    No barrage of condemnation from authorities can stop the spread of insights that produce more success with women. The standard first response to news about a revolutionary change in society (e.g., atomic weapons, women’s liberation, AI) is deploying Zeno’s paradox: change is impossible in “X” (whatever “X” is). It is a comforting but daft response.

    We have begun the second stage of society’s response to Game: recognition. Articles mocking and condemning Game appear in major publications, in films, and on TV (e.g., “Till Death do Us Part” in season 4 of the hit TV show “Castle”, and in the film Kingsman: The Secret Service). Ahead lies acceptance as people wonder what all the fuss was about. What lies beyond that? We live in ClownWorld, so we should expect that our response will be irrational

    Are these developments good or bad? Consult a priest or philosopher, for you will not find the answers here. The FM website only attempts to help its readers more clearly see and understand the world, and decide how to act.

    Science demonstrates the truths of Game

    As with alchemy, science follows the amateurs in new fields. First, men on the street discovered the effectiveness of dark triad behaviors. Then scientists did experiments and developed theories to explain this. Here is a sample of the vast body of research validating many of the precepts of Game.

    Source: FabiusMaximus
    “Remember that all worlds draw to an end and that noble death is a treasure which no-one is too poor to buy.” - C. S. Lewis, The Last Battle

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    A stark warning regarding PUA business:





















    “Remember that all worlds draw to an end and that noble death is a treasure which no-one is too poor to buy.” - C. S. Lewis, The Last Battle

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    What the heck is PUA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernhard View Post
    What the heck is PUA?
    Pick Up Arts. The teaching of how to pick up women (primarily), usually with mere hedonistic objectives in mind.
    A nation is an organic thing, historically defined.
    A wave of passionate energy which unites past, present and future generations

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    Just what we need an entire country filled with male psychopaths and female whores.

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    I've to say I've never understood the principle behind "playing around" before settling. This isn't to mean that you should settle with the first person you meet either (unless they're the right ones, of course), but in my view the decline in seriousness when it comes to relationships has been a huge contributor towards the disappearance of the traditional family. The fact that someone with 18 calls themselves a late bloomer in regards to losing their virginity, but at the same time they want to wait a few more decades to marry, well, it's a little bit shocking. Some peoples will not like it, but it's the result of too much secularism and materialism in my view...

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    It seems pretty stupid to do as the guy in the second post did. I think it's in tune with a more general attitude nowadays, that people feel that they are missing out when they have a regular, maybe traditional, life path. They go and look for adventure, only to find out that it doesn't give them meaning in the end. He made a mistake and now has to live with the consequences. Perhaps others, with stronger personalities are able to make the same choices and in the end come out even stronger. Who knows. It depends on one's personality.
    Considering the pick up artist phenomenon, I don't see any reason why this should be interesting for people who have a successful relationship. For the incel type, on the other hand, I think it can offer them quite a bit. For those who already have nothing to loose, this can stimulate creating more self confidence. It's a way better alternative then the self pity a lot of them seem to indulge in. For young men in general to consciously work on their courting skills can really help them to discover what it means to be a man; it doesn't even have to develop into a full hedonist lifestyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siebenbürgerin View Post
    I've to say I've never understood the principle behind "playing around" before settling. This isn't to mean that you should settle with the first person you meet either (unless they're the right ones, of course), but in my view the decline in seriousness when it comes to relationships has been a huge contributor towards the disappearance of the traditional family. The fact that someone with 18 calls themselves a late bloomer in regards to losing their virginity, but at the same time they want to wait a few more decades to marry, well, it's a little bit shocking. Some peoples will not like it, but it's the result of too much secularism and materialism in my view...
    People who lose their virginity at 18 are NOT "late bloomers". I lost mine at 19 (almost 20). I consider this normal. Kids who lose theirs at 13-14 have a screw loose. The odds that they are going to have long-term stable marriages when they are adults are really low, I guess.

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