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    ‘Without Christianity, Europe Has No Soul’

    The newly opened House of European History has a blind spot: It entirely omits the role that religion played in European history. According to a new essay from Arnold Huijgen at Religion & Liberty Transatlantic, when it comes to religion, the $61 million museum in Brussels, built by the European Parliament, is “an empty House.” Instead, the EU displaces the Divine in its exhibits.

    Walking through the structure the day it opened, he observed:

    [I]t is as if religion does not exist. In fact, it never existed and never impacted the history of the continent. On none of the many floors is any attention paid to the Reformation as the great divide between Roman Catholicism and Protestantism, to religious wars between confessions, or the quest for freedom of religion that was at the heart of the Dutch Revolt. If one did not know that the Roman Catholic Church existed, one would not find it out in the permanent exposition of European history that the European Parliament seeks to present to every European (at that European’s expense). No longer is European secularism fighting the Christian religion; it simply ignores every religious aspect in life altogether.

    The fact that the world’s largest church (Roman Catholicism) is based within Europe, that the world’s second largest church (Eastern Orthodoxy) is the official faith of many Eastern European nations (de jure or de facto), or that the confessions of the Protestant Reformation have their origins on European soil is omitted altogether, according to Huijgen.

    Huijgen, a professor of systematic theology at the Theological University Apeldoorn, notes that, instead of the Creator, the top floor of the museum is dedicated to the European Union. He dubs this “literally the apex of the European Union’s narcissism.”

    Perhaps his most interesting observation is the self-defeating nature of secular historical revisionism. Technocrats, eager to exclude religious faith from the public square, prepare the ground for an inevitable populist backlash, he writes – a strong rejoinder against both EU conceit and rigorously secularist government at any level. People often remember George Orwell’s dictum in 1984: “He who controls the past controls the future.” However, they often forget its corollary: “He who controls the present controls the past.” By his account, the taxpayer-subsidized monument to the EU embodies that phrase in its own way.

    But since the present springs from the past, this living history continues to assert itself in the daily lives of Europeans, including their elected officials:

    [I]t is clear that religion did play a crucial role in European history. Social structures in southern European countries cannot be understood without the role of the Roman Catholic Church. The responsibility of the individual, stressed in Protestantism, is a central tenet of European culture. Calvinism may or may not be the fertile soil that buds forth capitalism as Max Weber theorized, but at least its role in creating the cultural structures of much of Europe needs to be discussed. Until the 1960s, at the very minimum, most Europeans understood themselves as Christians, and – to cite but one example – Christian Democratic political parties still play an important role in the politics of large European countries like Germany.

    Read his account and see if you agree with his conclusion, “Without Christianity, Europe has no soul.”

    You may read this full essay here.
    https://blog.acton.org/archives/9523...s-no-soul.html

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    Without Christianity Europe has no future. Neither does the EUSSR in the long run.

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    I bookmarked "Acton Institute" for further reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nietzsche
    When Christianity departed from its native soil, that of the lowest orders, the underworld of the ancient world, and began seeking power among barbarian peoples, it no longer had to deal with exhausted men, but with men still inwardly savage and capable of self torture in brief, strong men, but bungled men. Here, unlike in the case of the Buddhists, the cause of discontent with self, suffering through self, is not merely a general sensitiveness and susceptibility to pain, but, on the contrary, an inordinate thirst for inflicting pain on others, a tendency to obtain subjective satisfaction in hostile deeds and ideas. Christianity had to embrace barbaric concepts and valuations in order to obtain mastery over barbarians: of such sort, for example, are the sacrifices of the first born, the drinking of blood as a sacrament, the disdain of the intellect and of culture; torture in all its forms, whether bodily or not; the whole pomp of the cult. Buddhism is a religion for peoples in a further state of development, for races that have become kind, gentle and over spiritualized ( Europe is not yet ripe for it ): it is a summons that takes them back to peace and cheerfulness, to a careful rationing of the spirit, to a certain hardening of the body. Christianity aims at mastering beasts of prey ; its modus operandi is to make them ill to make feeble is the Christian recipe for taming, for "civilizing". Buddhism is a religion for the closing, overwearied stages of civilization, christianity doesnt even find civilisation - it may establish civilisation under circumstances.
    A criticism of the Christian concept of God leads inevitably to the same conclusion. A nation (Volk) that still believes in itself holds fast to its own god. In him it does honour to the conditions which enable it to survive, to its virtues it projects its joy in itself, its feeling of power, into a being to whom one may offer thanks. He who is rich will give of his riches; a proud people need a god to whom they can make sacrifices . Religion, within these limits, is a form of gratitude. A man is grateful for his own existence: to that end he needs a god. Such a god must be able to work both benefits and injuries; he must be able to play either friend or foe he is wondered at for the good he does as well as for the evil he does. But the castration, against all nature, of such a god, making him a god of goodness alone, would be contrary to human inclination. Mankind has just as much need for an evil god as for a good god; it doesn't have to thank mere tolerance and humanitarianism for its own existence. What would be the value of a god who knew nothing of anger, revenge, envy, scorn, cunning, violence? who had perhaps never experienced the rapturous ardeurs of victory and of destruction? No one would understand such a god: why should any one want him? True enough, when a nation is on the downward path, when it feels its belief in its own future, its hope of freedom slipping from it, when it begins to see submission as a first necessity and the virtues of submission as measures of self preservation, then it must overhaul its god. He then becomes a hypocrite, timorous and demure; he counsels "peace of soul," hate no more, leniency, "love" of friend and foe. He moralizes endlessly; he creeps into every private virtue; he becomes the god of every man; he becomes a private citizen, a cosmopolitan. Formerly he represented a people, the strength of a people, everything aggressive and thirsty for power in the soul of a people; now he is simply the good god . The truth is that there is no other alternative for gods: either they are the will to power in which case they are national gods or incapacity for power in which case they have to be good.
    The European soul has been crippled, domesticated and civilised maybe, but surviving with this sickness we will not.
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    Europe lost it's soul when it turned Christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GermanicAfrican View Post
    Europe lost it's soul when it turned Christian.
    You have it backwards. Europe gained its soul when it embraced Christianity.

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    ‘Without Christianity, Europe Has No Soul’
    On the contrary; without Christianity there would probably be another 100 million souls alive in Europe today!

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    Just take a look at Europe before the falling away from Christianity and look at it now. I rest my case.

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    That goes for America too.
    As a little boy I learned in school that America was a Christian Nation. Is it still a Christian nation? May be by name only. Values have changed even among Christians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwab View Post
    That goes for America too.
    As a little boy I learned in school that America was a Christian Nation. Is it still a Christian nation? May be by name only. Values have changed even among Christians.
    This is sadly true. Churches have been affected by political correctness just as much as any other sector of public life. This country is, if anything, less Christian than ever. Some of today's churches support behavior that would have otherwise been considered sinful or even blasphemous, such as homosexuality, transsexuality or adultery. The lack of adherence to Christian cultural values has been eroding the soul of our people...

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