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    Thread split: Holy War (God wills it)

    If I were to move away from this, the only other path I could see would be that of the old-school Cathars- still a polytheistic world-view, but with a different take on How Things Are.
    The Cathars had an interesting view of the world but "the good Lord in his infinite mercy" () exterminated them all!

    As for how I feel about aging, it sucks but (like everything else) it exists for a reason.

    A world in which nothing ever aged, and ultimately died, would create untold problems!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    The Cathars had an interesting view of the world but "the good Lord in his infinite mercy" () exterminated them all!
    The Church wasn't very big on accepting criticism or having any competition back in the day, apparently. One Crusade, coming right up!

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    Crusades? That was 100% wrong........
    What are the Scriptures teaching?
    Go ye in all the world and kill all the unbelievers? That is what Islam teaches my friend.
    You know what the Bible says.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwab View Post
    Crusades? That was 100% wrong........
    No?? Why..? The Crusades were some of the only useful events which was spawned by a Europe unified in Christianity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    No?? Why..? The Crusades were some of the only useful events which was spawned by a Europe unified in Christianity.
    Fake Christianity to say the least, the Scriptures taught otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwab
    Fake Christianity to say the least, the Scriptures taught otherwise.
    Luke 19:27: "And these enemies of mine who were unwilling for me to rule over them, bring them here and slay them in front of me.’”

    Today's Christianity is fake, the crusading Christianity was true.

    The crusades were a necessary (pro-active) defensive action, both in Spain and the Levant. And the crusaders who fell in battle were martyrs who went straight to Heaven. The path of the holy warrior does please God, it's one way of achieving a state of grace, no matter what modern Christians say.

    And non-denominational is another word for "definitely mistaken" because Christians should not and can not have their own take on scripture, it only creates confusion (the confusion you yourself are so much against, Schwab), it's the way Satan wants it - such activities are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. Membership of the Church left to us by Christ, that of St. Peter, is absolutely crucial. And that Church wasn't created yesterday by some guy in America or anywhere else, it can only be the Orthodox and/or Catholic churches because only they can lay claim to an unbroken tradition and hence legitimacy - even the Eastern churches have a much better claim to legitimacy than any church created in the last 500 years. This is something well undertood within the churches aforementioned.

    This lack of legitimacy has always presented a huge problem for Protestants. It has always been the biggest issue of breakaway churches, which they tried to circumvent by promoting the view that they're emulating the very first generations of Christians and by claiming the historical Church has been twisting the teachings of Christ - both things for which there is no proof whatsoever.
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    Well, the pope kissing the feet of filthy negroid invaders does not win any worthy hearts for Catholicism. One could see that negro getting up and raping a European woman and the pope telling her to forgive him, because it's "what Jesus would do."

    Be it a matter of interpretation or no, ALL mainstream Christian denominations are now anti-white.
    Most people think as they are trained to think, and most people make a majority.

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    I agree with you entirely. My wife's stepmother's Protestant minister told the congregation to support Obama. Look at television ads almost all pushing mixed couples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    Well, the pope kissing the feet of filthy negroid invaders does not win any worthy hearts for Catholicism. One could see that negro getting up and raping a European woman and the pope telling her to forgive him, because it's "what Jesus would do."

    Be it a matter of interpretation or no, ALL mainstream Christian denominations are now anti-white.
    The current pope is what the last one (nicknamed the terminator) was trying to prevent.
    This current pope is an anti-pope.
    I don't know where people get the idea that Christianity teaches pacifism. Your supposed to
    contend for the faith and fight evil. This modern total pacifist church forgive anything is a modern
    heresy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech View Post
    Luke 19:27: "And these enemies of mine who were unwilling for me to rule over them, bring them here and slay them in front of me.’”
    A good example, but unfortunately this is not a command of God or Jesus; it is simply part of a parable, that of the Ten Minas (Luke 19:11-26).

    As for claims of legitimacy, the Cathars also claimed apostolic succession even back to the original Apostles and thus their claim of 'legitimacy' was as strong or stronger than that of the Orthodox/Catholic Churches. If this claim were true, the 'authority' of their Parfaits ('Perfects') was on par with the Church's bishops. (Unfortunately, those who attempt to re-create the Cathar faith today cannot claim this unbroken apostolic succession- and, sadly, the one most visible 'Cathar' group is so far removed from the original that it is essentially Cathar in name only. I happen to like the historical Cathars but this outfit is just embarrasing and looks like any other New Age cult.)

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