Are all German Dinarics the descendants of turkish invaders?

[Von Braun]

In my thread on the possibility of leaving Aryan Dawn, volksdeutsche claimed that I look like a certain Dinaric from Turkey. According to Hellstar, the Dinaric in me is from my mother's side. My mother is 100% of German descent. As far as I know, the Turks did not get very far into Austria, much less Germany.

Someone who Hellstar knows said that I am a "North Dinaric." I think that would preclude the possibility of looking like Dinarcis in the Balkans and/or Turkey.

[Azdaja]

I'm fairly certain that Coons theory on pretty much all European dinarics is that they are descended from Copper Age travellers who originated in Asia Minor.
Gunther also believed their original homeland was in Asia Minor.
I'm not sure what other anthropologists have to say about it.

[Von Braun]

So most whites came from the near east; the IE Nordics went north of the Black Sea into Europe and the Dinarics went south of the Black Sea into Europe? As for UPs and Mediterraneans, they came to Europe much earlier (pre-metal era)---probably from the same general area?

[Azdaja]

From the very little I know about Coons theories, it goes like this:
1) UP types are indigenous to Europe.
2) Small mediterranean types began entered Europe during the Mesolithic, primarily from North Africa.
3) During the Neolithic:
a) A larger mediterranean type entered Greece via sea from the east. This type eventually made it's way to Britian and became the "Megalithic" (atlanto-mediterranean) type. Obviously some people disagree with this theory.
b) The Danubians enter the Balkans and push into central Europe from parts unknown.
c) The Battle-Axe or Corded people enter northeast Europe.
4) Dinarics from Asia Minor introduce the copper age to Europe.

Now gradually the Danubian and Corded types merge together and create the Hallstatt Nordic type.

Keep in mind I am very new at this, so don't take it as gospel until someone more knowledgable has looked it over.
Plus, this is just Coons theory. Others disagree.

[Ross]

Relax, Von Braun, nobody wants you to leave neither AD nor the Movement... stay, if you want... but after out bros in the States will manage to secede and found the Nordish Union in one half of America, you'll be summarily sent to another, the Negro/Med half...

[Von Braun]

Originally posted by Ross
Relax, Von Braun, nobody wants you to leave neither AD nor the Movement... stay, if you want... but after out bros in the States will manage to secede and found the Nordish Union in one half of America, you'll be summarily sent to another, the Negro/Med half...

Listen asshole, I will not, nor will other racialist North Atlantids, be thrown together with sub-saharrans or other primitives.

[Allenson]

Hello Von Braun,

Here is what Coon had to say on the process of Dinaricization:

The Principle of Dinaricization

"From France to Macedonia, and from Istanbul to Samarkand, are found populations in which the majority of persons present a characteristic morphology of the head and face; with a brachycephalic skull, often flattish in the occipital region, the foramen magnum and auricular passages set disproportionately far to the rear, the forehead often sloping, the face frequently elongated, and the nose salient and frequently convex. People who possess these characteristics have been lumped together in one or more races; the Dinaric in Europe, the Armenoid in Asia, and the Noric to include the blond varieties. It is biologically unsound, however, to postulate any historic unity for individuals of these so-called races, since they are products not of an historical association but of a biological principle. That principle is as follows: A mixture of a Mediterranean stock with a 33 per cent, more or less, solution of Alpine may bring about a differential inheritance in the majority of the offspring; from the Alpine side is inherited brachycephaly, often greater than that of the Alpine ancestral factor; the dimensions of the pre-auricular part of the head are derived from the long-headed strain, hence the posterior position of the ear; the breadths of the median sagittal sector of the face are inherited from the narrower-faced ancestor, often in exaggerated degree, and this applies especially to the width of the upper segment of the nose and to the interorbital distance; meanwhile the face often becomes longer than in either parent stock, and the nose, in response to the shortening of the antero-posterior length of the entire head, becomes salient. This process occurs in varying degrees with individuals and with local racial entities of different origin. If the solution is saturated either with Alpines or with Mediterraneans, phenotypically pure members of whichever stock is predominant appear in considerable numbers. If the solution is correct, such apparently pure individuals still occur, but with relative infrequence. This principle, studied in this work in reference to whites, applies to hybrids of other races as well.

It may readily be seen that the Dinarics, Norics, and Armenoids have no ethnic or historic unity, but are for the most part parallel results of the same process repeated with similar materials in different places. They are related only insofar as the parent stocks are related. There is one important exception to this rule, however; during the Bronze Age Dinaricized Mediterraneans spread with the knowledge of metal from an eastern Mediterranean source to the western Mediterranean Countries, to central Europe, and to the British Isles. In this instance Dinarics of a Near Eastern variety did actually invade Europe, and their descendants may be distinguished today in countries like England where, owing to the absence of an Alpine substratum, the process of Dinaricization has not been locally at play."



So, you don't have to be a 'sand-nigger' to show a Dinaric tendency. It happens in different regions but appears to be a parallel process.

Hope this helps

[Von Braun]

She may be partially Dinaric, and her ancestors may have travelled through present-day Turkey on their way to Europe, but she does not resemble modern Turks (unless these unmongrelized whites in Turkey that people talk about are still around).

[Ross]

Originally posted by Von Braun
Listen asshole, I will not, nor will other racialist North Atlantids, be thrown together with sub-saharrans or other primitives.

"North-Atlantid" = Mediterranian living in the North... no less swarthy that a Med living in the South...

[Ross]

Originally posted by Ross
"North-Atlantid" = Mediterranian living in the North... no less swarthy that a Med living in the South...

But don't make a mistake, you're not IT, whether NA or Med... you're a Dinaric... with insignificant Nordic and Hither Asiatic strains...