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    Re: Which battle are you most proud from your nation's history?

    There are many Battles in the American Civil War which I find very interesting, but am not really proud of, having relatives that fought for both the Union and Confederates -including the First Battle of Manassas (first Bull Run) and the battle of Chancellorsville in particular.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chancellorsville

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    Re: Which battle are you most proud from your nation's history?

    The battle of Petersburg, in which two of my ancestors died:




    The battle of Gettysburg, which stopped Confederates advancing further into Pennsylvania:



    and In a beautiful place, a tragic and bloody battle, Antietam




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    Re: Which battle are you most proud from your nation's history?

    Not one "battle", but the War for Independence was Americas most honorable war. It's too bad most of these battles listed here are Whites against Whites.

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    Re: Which battle are you most proud from your nation's history?

    The battles of "Swamp Fox" Francis Marion against the British in the American War of Independence are interesting. The Battle of Wyboo Swamp is one such engagement. Modern Special Operations Forces garner techniques from this tactical genius even unto this day in modern warfare.

    www.SwampFoxTrail.com

    www.MarionMilitary.edu is a modern facility to send our youth to learn the discipline necessary to become proficient warrior leaders.

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    John S. "Gray Ghost" Mosby of the Confederate South who founded the Partisan Rangers was another such hero of my land.

    Mosby is famous for carrying out a daring raid far inside Union lines at the Fairfax County courthouse in March 1863, where his men captured three high ranking Union officers, including Brig. Gen. Edwin H. Stoughton, whom Mosby allegedly found in bed, rousing him with a slap to his rear. Upon being so rudely awakened, the general shouted, "Do you know who I am?" Mosby quickly replied, "Do you know Mosby, general?" "Yes! Have you got the rascal?" "No but he has got you!"

    The Greenback Raid is one such daring exploit of his.

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    The founder of the Ku Klux Klan, General Nathan Bedford Forrest, and his battles are of interest to my heritage as well. One is: The Battle of Chickamauga.

    Also, if any Skadi have any information on the "Werewolf" guerrilla battles of the end of WWII and beyond, I would be delighted to learn more.

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    This was the most important battle since it was the basis for the common understanding that thereafter there was a Germany. Of course, I claim this also since my German and English ancestors were in this area at the time.

    But as an American, I have more recent concerns. Obviously, I do not like the fact that my countrymen killed Englishmen, Germans or Austrians in some of our wars or that some of my countrymen were killed by them. On the other hand, there was the Second World War and the attack on my country by Japan. Japan may have been Germany's ally but that is the only positive thing which can be said about them. For us, they were absolute evil. They attacked us. The began by winning in the Pacific. They set their sights on the Pacific and Australia. Invading Australia was not going to happen.

    Japanese would say that when we beat them we had numerical superiority. That is true, we also had technological superiority. Just about the only one on one test came in the form of naval battles. So, two important naval battles go down for me as very important. These were the Battle of Midway and the Battle of the Coral Sea. In both of these battles the United States did not have a numerical advantage or any real advantage at all. Our war leaders made better tactical decisions and we won. These two battles turned the tide of the sea war in the Pacific. In these battles, we broke their back and their will to win. After that, they just thought of dying for the Emperor and saving face.

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    Sv: Re: Which battle are you most proud from your nation's history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff View Post
    On the other hand, there was the Second World War and the attack on my country by Japan. Japan may have been Germany's ally but that is the only positive thing which can be said about them. For us, they were absolute evil. They attacked us. The began by winning in the Pacific. They set their sights on the Pacific and Australia. Invading Australia was not going to happen.
    Of course the Pacific battles was of great importance, and decided much the direction of the war towards Allied "victory".

    But there are many subjective views, and I see no black and white here, no white hat riders, and no yellow crooks.

    And objectively, since mentioned, despite its terrors, the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbour was great military work, perhaps one of the most sucsessful attacks during WW2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovid View Post
    The battle of Tali-Ihantala. Finns won and the Finnish nation managed to preserve its independence. Otherwise Finland would have most likely became a part of the Soviet Union.
    Hats off for Suomen Sisu.

    Are the Finns the bravest nation on this planet?

    I think so. Stalin thought so too, he figured he needed 10 russian soldiers for every Finn. And the Finnish offensive got into the surburbs of Leningrad, just few kilometers from the city.

    The Finns fought 3 wars in 7 years for their land. The soil of Finnland are duly soaked with blood, and of course the Finns do not want to share this high priced soil with uworthy passengers.
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    AW: Which battle are you most proud from your nation's history?

    The despaired and courageously fighted many battles of the saxonias against "Karl den Großen" in the 770's in order to retain their faith!

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    Re: Which battle are you most proud from your nation's history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patriotpatrik View Post
    I will have to say the Battle of Narva in 1700. Denmark, Poland and Russia had formed an alliance in order to attack and defeat Sweden.

    The three allies decided that in the summer of the year 1700, they would attack Sweden at three different places. Denmark declared war and prepared to ship troops to the south most province of actual Sweden, Skåne. Poland also declared war and marched into Livonia, and last but not least, Russia declared war and started to besiege the Swedish town of Narva, which nowadays lies approximately 30 km from St Petersburg.

    The Battle

    The Swedish army stood on top of a hill (Hermansberg), which lies approx. two kilometers from Narva. Before the Swedish army lay the town of Narva to the right, and to the left was the Russian camp. The Russians had the city walls of Narva at their right flank, and the river Neva at their left. This meant that the Swedish army had to attack in the center, where most forecastles were situated. These forecastles were built along the entire camp, which in length was almost seven kilometers. In the middle of this line of defense lay the biggest forecastle. The walls of that middle forecastle were so high, that a scaling of its walls wasn’t an option, so the army had to be divided into two colons which would go on both sides of the middle forecastle.

    The Swedes organized themselves, and at the same time the Russian Commander in Chief, the Duke of Croy, tried to predict what the Swedes might be up to. The Swedes were rather quickly done with the line up, and they had also managed to take a hill, which was situated in front of the middle forecastle of the Russian line, were they assembled and prepared the canons. From this point the canons were able to fire at any given location inside the Russian camp.

    The Swedish army was ready, but the Russian army didn’t think that they would attack. The Duke of Croy, who had information on how big the Swedish army was, didn’t think that they would dare to attack the camp with such few men. Instead he and his closest officers went to dinner. During this time the Swedish army was ready to make its move, but just before Rehnskiöld, the Swedish commander, gave the order to attack the weather started to change. Snow started falling and the wind from the south grew in strength. This made it impossible for the Russian scouts to see what the Swedes were up. Rehnskiöld, with the consent of the king, quickly used this advantage, and the army started marching down the hill.

    The Russians didn’t notice that the Swedes were actually coming, and when they finally did the Swedes were only 50 meters away. The Russians sounded the alarm, but before fresh troops arrived at the wall, the Swedes were already all over the place. The way in which a soldier of Karl XII fought is a bit strange. They had strict orders not to fire their sidearm until they were five arm lengths away from the enemy, or when they could see the white of the eye. This was done in order to give the rather crude firearms of the 17th/18th century, as much velocity and power as possible. This also came as a surprise to the Russians, they were used to soldiers firing and then reloading, but instead the Swedish soldiers fired their arms, and when that was done they drew their swords/rapiers and went into close combat. This was too much a chock for the Russians, who started to fall back, or even desert.
    In 1714, during the russian operations in Finland and Northern War with Sweden, the russian army under the command of Golitsyn went ahead to the swedish line and took a position. The swedes attacked immediately, but were beaten off. The russian officers suggested Golitsyn to begin counterattack, to take the advantage of the confusion of the opponent. Golitsyn however decided to wait for two more attacks of the Swedes. Only after the third defeated attack Russians went over to the offensive and without any effort destroyed the enemy.
    So, what was Golitsyn waiting for? He waited for the Swedes, who were running back and forth, to stamp down the snow... =D

    Later as governor of Finland Golitsyn was popular with the Finns

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    Re: Which battle are you most proud from your nation's history?

    The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest

    In the battle of the Teutoburg Forest in authumn 9 a. y. p. s., three Roman legions and their lackeys, lead by Publius Varus, were defeated and wiped out by an alliance of Germanics under the leadership of Irmin (Arminius, Hermann).

    The battle made an end to the attempts to occupy and to integrate the Germanic territories to the East of the Rhine into the Roman Empire. As a result, the Germanics were left to themselves and were not incorporated into the Roman culture area. This was the basic condition for the shaping and the development of an independent Germania whose effects can still be observed in our times.

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