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    "... but we also need immigrants workers ..."
    Immigrants will always be a part of the scenario, Þoreiðar. We had them flooding in when there was (allegedly) a labour shortage and they still flooded in when there was massive unemployment. A 10/40/70-hour week will make little difference where the Race Replacement Programme is concerned.

    As far as this particular initiative goes, during the 1980’s & early 1990’s I distinctly recall being told that computers would enable us all to have more leisure time and that their introduction into the workplace would mean a vast reduction in working hours. Had serious efforts been made to keep this promise (..although I suspect it was a willful lie!) we'd now have been working considerably less but you can’t just go from 40 down to 10 hours in one jump without causing an enormous (and potentially disastrous) upheaval.

    I can’t even imagine how you’d realign the whole economy to implement this. The Socialists often give the impression that they operate outside of reality and this is most likely another of their vote-catching measures that nobody has thought through. Will this turn out to be another Diane Abbott moment? She promised an extra 10.000 police officers but her sums worked out to approximately £30 per officer so whoever suggested this has probably been to the same school of economics.

    Still, if this opens up a debate about reducing working hours then some good may yet come of it – just as long as Labour leave the actual arithmetic to those who can count!

    A ten hour work-week today would mean about the same level of production as we had in the early 1950s.

    And that was not a bad time to live. So what have we really accomplished for ourselves over the past 70 years?

    Are those extra 30 hours a week really worth it?
    Neophyte, I totally agree with you. The current economic model is flawed on so many levels. For starters, I’m convinced that the GDP of countries is in no way reflective of their quality of life and I’m equally sure that the commitment to eternal growth will lead to an exhaustion of the planet’s resources.

    Never mind what the politicians, economists and sociologists are telling us, we were a lot better off as a society back in the 1950’s. Slightly before my time, but I’ve seen things slowly deteriorate over the past few decades as our ‘prosperity’ has increased – certainly since the early 80’s when ‘productivity’ and 'competition’ became the Thatcher government’s key words. Life has become increasingly hectic and at some point we’ll have to slow down and take stock of all this.

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    How could the average wage slave possibly survive in todays economy working only ten hours a week?

    That's just more fanciful insanity being used to undermine society.
    Not all in life is at it appears to be.

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    People on salary do not see decrease in weekly pay, doesn't matter the hours but that is how it is now. Those on hourly wage see 4x increase per hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LillyCaterina View Post
    How could the average wage slave possibly survive in todays economy working only ten hours a week?

    That's just more fanciful insanity being used to undermine society.
    If I look at Swedish data, the average industrial worker made about SEK 3.05/h in 1951; when you adjust that for inflation you get SEK 48.29/h in today's prices. But it also corresponds to the same amount of working time in 1951 for which you today would have to pay SEK 206.5. So Swedish industrial workers today are more then four times as productive as their grandfathers and great-grandfathers were in 1951.

    The answer is really simple. You live frugally. You have your kids share their rooms, two or three to a room; you eat less meat and overall cheap and locally produced food; you walk to the grocery store; no smartphone, a simple wristwatch is expensive enough; you wear your clothes until they literally break down, in the meantime you mend them; no vacation trips; and you save up, for a long time, before you buy even the simplest TV.

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