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    Quote Originally Posted by Ţoreiđar View Post
    Approximately 117 newborn babies die of neonatal circumcision in the US yearly. How many die of not being circumcised?
    Source please...................

    I'm more concerned about abortions which is in the millions all over the globe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    Washing is not a problem and this is a Semitic tradition anyways, why would any Germanic man do it voluntarily? (If there's a medical reason like tight foreskin, sure.)
    My ex had this as a surgery, at a later age, for medical reasons. And he is not happy with it. If it wasn't for medical reasons as mentioned, he wouldn't have done it... However, there are bad and good doctors too, some surgery can be avoided (maybe in his case it could have been avoided too, but it's too late to think about that now)...


    Quote Originally Posted by Ţoreiđar View Post
    What about buttholes? Should we just remove those as well? A colostomy bag is much neater, and you don't have to go through all the trouble of wiping and having to take a shower now and then. In fact, I see absolutely no reason whatsoever for a person to object to such a procedure, so we should just perform them on every newborn baby, as default, before they're old enough to speak and think for themselves.
    LOL But in fact some people might even consider it...


    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenrune View Post
    When we hear of females having a similar part removed, we call the people who do this barbaric, culturally backwards and abusive.
    I was thinking exactly about this while reading some of the previous posts here... Unfortunately some people still do such things today and they think it's good, while some others agree with such practices.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenrune View Post
    It seems rather odd that one particular part of the normal physical body should be removed as a rule (or at least some peoples' rule).
    Exactly! I'm against such things, regardless of gender. But since some people still agree it's 'normal' to act in such a way, then it's obvious they are not that far from the middle ages' Inquisition...


    However, if they want circumcision and other similar things, they could just move to another country. When you move to a new country, as an immigrant, you have to adapt to its rules, not to bring your own with you. If you want to stick to your own culture, which is very different from the country that hosts you, then just go back home from where you came, or to another country that accepts such things! Why is this so complicated for some people to understand? I think this is common sense!
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    What they call "female circumcision" is NOT analogous to male circumcision. If you were to do to a male what they do to females in the Islamic world, you would be removing the entire penis, including the internal part all the way back to the anus. Describing what they do to little girls as "barbaric" doesn't even come close to doing justice to the actual procedure... it is pure sadism of the worst kind, inflicted upon 7yo girls who are fully awake and aware of the people chopping off their clitori and having all the meat gouged out of their labia majora with a sharpened spoon. And their own mothers are usually the ones delivering them up for and participating in this procedure. What happens to them is far worse than the worst rape these girls could suffer.

    Sorry for being graphic, but you must understand we are talking apples and oranges here.
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    If you think it's right to cut off one part due to religious superstition, you are not far from thinking it's right to cut out the other gender's part as well. It's not apple and oranges, it both has the same mindset behind. There's a reason why there have been so many eunuchs (and they get cut out everything) in harems.

    When the body, specially sexual organs, should stay intact. It's not "civilised" to mutilate children and deprive them of their body feeling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    If you think it's right to cut off one part due to religious superstition, you are not far from thinking it's right to cut out the other gender's part as well. It's not apple and oranges, it both has the same mindset behind. There's a reason why there have been so many eunuchs (and they get cut out everything) in harems.

    When the body, specially sexual organs, should stay intact. It's not "civilised" to mutilate children and deprive them of their body feeling.

    I don't think either one is "right." Just that, as practiced, one is far more radical and cruel than the other. And the foreskin is not the penis.
    Most people think as they are trained to think, and most people make a majority.

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    I’m glad they banned it until age of majority, other Western countries should follow suit.

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