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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    You were talking about young women, which will consider all of them (no matter of their marital status).
    I brought up two potential factors why the 80% of those voted for the Greens in Finland where women. One of them was youth and the other martial status. You however where the one who brought up young mothers, which does not necessarly include martial status. Since a young mother can also be single.

    Sorry as this study is in Finnish but part 6.1 gives quite clear picture:
    http://epublications.uef.fi/pub/urn_...f-20131091.pdf
    Yes, some other countries might differ ... Finland is not a ''banana country''.
    Not that much different from the education level from other young mothers in other Western countries.

    Now to summarize the hypothetical profile of a women who votes for the Greens according to what we both brought up :

    • Martial status, which might be a partly explanation for why they voted for a left-wing party;
    • Youth, based on my own experience that young women tend to be more left wing in general;
    • Education level, brought up by you, alto more in a sense of making a differentiation between those who voted Greens and those who voted Left Alliance.


    So in general a woman that votes for the Greens is young, single, educated and is unlikely to have any children. Or at least that is a hypotheses that could be checked if any information is available about voter demographics that contain the needed information.
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    One kind of ''idealism'' belongs to youth people. That is someway natural. The form of that (how it comes out) just differs time to time.

    I don't either think that most of men here denies climate changes. Or that men will not keep it as a bad thing as women. Only very stupid ones thinks other ways. Women just think that Finland & Finns should do even more ... someway show the way to all the others (even as Finns have already done more than most). Men on the other hand thinks that other ''bastards'' should do their part first; before Finland and Finns will do more ... as it is only Finns who will pay the costs of those actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    About 80% of voters of True Finns were men
    That means that if only men were allowed to vote, the True Finns would have at least 28% of the votes (considering that generally more women that men cast a vote), compared to 17.5% for both sexes, and the other right-leaning parties would probably have gained a lot more as well. Hard to argue with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    That means that if only men were allowed to vote, the True Finns would have at least 28% of the votes (considering that generally more women that men cast a vote), compared to 17.5% for both sexes, and the other right-leaning parties would probably have gained a lot more as well. Hard to argue with that.
    I think True Finns popularity is the main reason why SDP (even as being the winner of election) stayed clearly below 20%. Saying the same other words ... True Finns have stolen most of voters exactly from SDP. Workers class men. Blue collar men. Not among of most educated or civilized Finns .... or Finnish men (if you prefer).

    If I'm thinking this bit more ... that is actually quite interesting as what comes to Finland's economic policy .... True Finns (leaders/party) ideas are much closer to coalition party than SDP. I think some people voted True Finns as those people wanted to vote against traditional parties, and some as True Finns were only party which is against immigration. True Finns other topics did't interest/influence many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    I think True Finns popularity is the main reason why SDP (even as being the winner of election) stayed clearly below 20%. Saying the same other words ... True Finns have stolen most of voters exactly from SDP. Workers class men. Blue collar men. Not among of most educated or civilized Finns .... or Finnish men (if you prefer).

    If I'm thinking this bit more ... that is actually quite interesting as what comes to Finland's economic policy .... True Finns (leaders/party) ideas are much closer to coalition party than SDP. I think some people voted True Finns as those people wanted to vote against traditional parties, and some as True Finns were only party which is against immigration. True Finns other topics did't interest/influence many.
    Well...needs to add/correct something what I said above. Old chairman of True Finns (Timo Soini) and election 2015? The party really got almost all votes from worker class men ... but present chairman (Jussi Halla-Aho) ... just like I wrote above ... he has moved party much more on right what comes to economic policy (their ideas). And for example him? He also got votes from the most expensive living areas of Helsinki city. So opposite to 2015 election 2019 some academic/educated people also voted True Finns.

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    'Islam, Sexual Minorities and EU Have Become the New Soviet Union' - Hammer and sickle in the ceiling Finnish Right-Wing Leader



    Finnish nationalist leader Jussi Halla-aho has argued that legal and economic sanctions for merely expressing one's opinion have become more common, calling for laws to bolster the freedom of expression.



    MEP Jussi Halla-aho, freshly re-elected for a second two-year term as chair of the nationalist Finns Party, has outlined his policy goals in an address to a party congress in Tampere. In his speech, Halla-aho declared the Finns to be Finland's main opposition party. Therefore, he told the party core, its duty is not to “yap at everything” but to point out the shortcomings and mistakes of the centre-left government that took office in early June. Halla-aho also stressed that the party's supporters should not dwell on those questions where they have differences of opinion, but rather on the themes that unite them, citing immigration and supporting the disadvantaged as examples.


    Furthermore, Halla-aho likened today's atmosphere to the Cold War era, employing unflattering similes with the Soviet Union. “In today's Finland and more broadly in western countries, immigration, Islam, sexual minorities and the European Union have become the new Soviet Union”, Halla-aho said to applause from the audience, as quoted by national broadcaster Yle. To remedy this, Halla-aho called to bolster the right to freedom of expression.


    Signalling a break from the Finns' rhetoric from the era of his long-standing predecessor Timo Soini, Halla-aho assured that the Finns are “not a populist party”. Soini, who founded the Finns and is credited with elevating them from a fringe party to the point, at which they briefly became a government party, lavishly used the term “populist”.“We have succeeded in finding the kinds of approaches to issues that unite the interests of different population groups”, Halla-aho added.


    Last week, Halla-aho was reported to have terminated his membership in the organisation Suomen Sisu, of which he has been an honorary member since the 2000s and describes himself as “ethno-nationalist”, as do the Young Finns, Halla-aho's party's youth wing. While the Finns leader was reticent about the reason why he left the party, some pundits ascribed this move to an attempt to make the Finns more appealing to a broader public. Earlier this year, the Young Finns lost state finding over a tweet featuring a screenshot from a European parliament ad with a dark-skinned couple and their child and a call to vote Finns “so that Finland's future doesn't look like this”.


    In 2009, present-day party leader Halla-aho was fined for ethnic agitation over calling Prophet Muhammad a paedophile, referencing his child-wife Aisha.


    The Eurosceptic, anti-immigration Finns are Finland's largest opposition party. In 2019 they sensationally finished second with 17.5% of the vote. The Finns have only one seat fewer than Prime Minister Antti Rinne's Social Democratic Party, and has been topping opinion polls since April's election.




    SPUTNIK 01.07.2019 Finnish Right-Wing Leader: 'Islam, Sexual Minorities and EU Have Become the New Soviet Union'


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