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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe Jens Lornsen View Post
    The fridge should suffice 7 kB/s to send it's weekly demand to the
    delivery grocer as plain (compressed) text file ,

    Still it's stupid. A single terminal in the kitchen would suffice. You can view and store recipes on it, buy groceries, play music, check the weather, or whatever...
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    There is some truth to this, but the issue I have is that there is no actual data to look at. I tend to look at this subject from a purely technical aspect, and have a general understanding of real worl applications and try not to take things out of context.

    For example... there currently is not much publically available information relating to this technology, or if it does exist then it is not easily found. I have already tried for a few hours to find information and I just find proposals and links to companies trying to sell things. And then there is the disinfo stuff that has the FUD like in the first part of the first post in this thread.

    So in general, we are to understand the 5G technology would work under the same basic principles as 4G/LTE, which also works under the same principles as radio and television communication. There is not any real difference in the basics, so the concept is quite old, the main difference being the frequencies and the contents of the signal. Radio and television were analog at the start, and the new technologies we see are digital. In terms of wave composition, the difference is round vs square.

    But, getting back to how 5G is supposed to work. It is the same as 4G and other phone broadcast services and this is well documented already. If you have ever seen a 3/4G transmitter or picture of one, you would know there are warning labelling, and in order to service equipment at such a place you must wear protective clothing with a particular distance. This is also well documented and you should be able to find this information quite easily. The way this technology works is that the receivers of the signals (in general use) exist outside of the zone where the frequency is the strongest. This zone is called the Fresnel Zone. You can look up this term to see pictures of what this looks like.

    It is well established that a person should not occupy a space within the Fresnel Zone, and if they must then they would have to wear protective clothing. This is not a big deal for the regular person because 3/4G transmitters are on top of tall buildings or towers, and ideally a person would not be occupying the danger area.

    The idea of 5G is to put a "repeater" on every street corner, or every telephone pole or whatever. The main transmitters would still be in places where existing phone transmitters are located, high up places. The repeaters repeaters are designed to receive the signal from the large transmitters above and rebroadcast them below. I already have read that some of these "pilot cities" for 5G are not using 5G devices, rather than 4G/LTE devices to do this work. As long as these devices are not put into a location where a place where people occupy would exist within the danger area of the Fresnel Zone, it will not have any health problems caused to anyone.

    However, if this is a true 5G transmitter/repeater, which would have a "livable" range of say 800meters... if it is placed on a telephone or light pole on a street where there is a building within that range, and say the device is on the same level as the second or third floor of a building or house (because what is the distance between the building and the pole on the street?) then this would be very bad.

    BUT, this is piecemeal information. We have only the transmission capabilities and the signal properties of 5G and what that signal is capable of, and then we know the capabilities of 4G transmitters and their different ranges in regards to safety regulations. We do not have this information on whether 5G is operating under the same principles of 4G, we do not know the safety ranges, and we do not know the capabilities of the devices that will be mounted lower to the ground on telephone poles or whatnot.

    It is funny to note, if you look at how the technology works and remember how television or radio would work (especially in the analog days and you lived in a valley or were blocked by hills or a mountain) then you can see where the flaw in this technology is. The problems of early radio and television are the same here. We fixed the issues with television by putting huge antennas on our houses to pick up the TV signals, because our houses were not way up in the sky where the signal was the strongest. Cell phones and wireless communication have the same issue. If we could put 30 meter antenna on our cell phones, we would have super fast speed even with 3G or perhaps even older phone technology!

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    I'm a college student right now and decided to take a foreign policy related class because I'm quirky. All I've heard about for the last couple months has been China's promotion of 5G tech and that the USA hates this.

    How hard would it for the US gov to create a few dozen fake internet accounts and then spread exaggerated rumors about 5G phones so that everyone is afraid of it? I mean, the Huawei lady (I can't remember her name, sorry) was arrested in Canada over this so bending the law a bit isn't out of the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dani View Post
    I'm a college student right now and decided to take a foreign policy related class because I'm quirky. All I've heard about for the last couple months has been China's promotion of 5G tech and that the USA hates this.

    How hard would it for the US gov to create a few dozen fake internet accounts and then spread exaggerated rumors about 5G phones so that everyone is afraid of it? I mean, the Huawei lady (I can't remember her name, sorry) was arrested in Canada over this so bending the law a bit isn't out of the question.
    Overall it appears , that some key parts of computing and internet hardware and software technology had dissapeared from the USA to elsewhere .

    It has a reason , that some key technologies need to be artificially kept
    alive , as Modem production or LNG-shipbuilding , through subsidies !

    Now , the "Free Markets" advocates have to figure out , how to dress in this
    "unexpected" situation .


    And there is not only HUAWEI producing internet gear , but also ZTE ,
    for example .

    Huawei though produces other key electronics like solar inverters ,
    and would be suspect of being able to shutdown key electronics in
    power production , if some war about Taiwan or Spratley Islands would
    escalate .
    Mk 10:18 What do you call me a good master, no-one is good .

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    US Government wants 5G because The State is controlled by corporations. Corporations make and sell the products and services. They are not against 5G itself, rather recently been making a big fuss regarding foreign corporations having too much control of the technology, as noted Hauwei is just one example. Foreign companies wouldn't be in such a position if the government hadn't supported (through law or fiscal regulations) that outsourcing of technology and manufacturing jobs, and the copyright regulations that killed the domestic repair market. Companies allowed to create technology that is prioprietary to such a degree that average people cannot fix broken items, and products designed to be thrown away when they fail, see right-to-repair movement, etc. That entire trend did not help anyone in the slightest as home repair became a thing of the past, all the stores that would sell parts and equipment have closed and the result of this is that people are less tech savvy than they were say 30+ years ago... which also happens to be back when the US was still in the technology business.

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    Canada: China Has Detained 13 Canadians Since Huawei CFO, the Chinese Communist Princesses Arrest


    13 Jan 2019



    Canada’s government revealed on Thursday that China has detained 13 of its citizens since the arrest in Vancouver of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou last month. Chinese officials subsequently released at least eight of those Canadians.



    The two highest-profile Canadians China arrested – former diplomat Michael Kovrig and businessman Michael Spavor – are still in detention. A third Canadian whose arrest was widely reported, teacher Sarah McIver, was released and allowed to return to Canada.


    A delegation of Canadian legislators is currently en route to China to discuss the incarceration of Kovrig and Spavor, along with other factors in the strained relationship between Beijing and Ottawa.


    Chinese authorities indicated this week they will move ahead with prosecuting Kovrig and Spavor for “activities that undermine China’s national security.” The Washington Post on Thursday quoted experts struggling to read the signals from China, which has been unusually adamant and outspoken about prosecuting the two Canadians, but also seems determined to give them what passes for a fair trial in China, as opposed to the sinister “extralegal” methods it frequently employs in national security cases.


    Reuters noted on Thursday that the total number of Canadians detained in China is not terribly large, but the timing of the recent arrests and the sketchy nature of the charges raise suspicions the Chinese are retaliating for the arrest of Meng or amassing leverage to compel her release:

    Overall, there are about 200 Canadians who have been detained in China for a variety of alleged infractions who continue to face ongoing legal proceedings. “This number has remained relatively stable,” the official said.


    In comparison, there are almost 900 Canadians in a similar situation in the United States, the official added.


    Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang did not provide details about the other detained Canadians at a news briefing in Beijing on Friday, but said that China was ruled by law and it protected the legal rights of foreigners.


    The Chinese government has not drawn a direct link between the detention of any Canadian and Meng’s arrest. The Chinese government has demanded that Canada free Meng and threatened unspecified consequences if it does not.


    “We are deeply concerned by the arbitrary detention by Chinese authorities of two Canadians last month,” the office of Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland said on Thursday.


    The Canadian ministry has not yet raised the caution level for travellers to China as the U.S. State Department did on Thursday, but the current advisory calls for Canadian travelers to “exercise a high degree of caution.”



    Canada: China Has Detained 13 Canadians Since Huawei...





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    Universal 5 G could accomplish that.

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    China’s Huawei Top Sponsor of Australian Politicians’ Overseas Trips


    June 25, 2018

    MELBOURNE/SYDNEY—Chinese telecommunications equipment maker Huawei Technologies Co Ltd is the biggest corporate sponsor of overseas travel for Australian politicians, according to an analysis of travel disclosure registers by an Australian think-tank.

    The report comes as several politicians have called for Huawei to be banned from participating in a roll-out of Australia’s 5G next-generation communications network, amid fears the company is effectively controlled by the Chinese government.

    It also lands amid a low in Sino-Australian relations and intense concern at the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) influence in Australian politics.

    Australia is preparing to pass laws designed to limit CCP’s influence in domestic affairs following criticism by Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull that Beijing was interfering.

    The research from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) found Huawei paid for 12 trips by Australian federal politicians to the company’s headquarters in Shenzhen, including business class flights, local travel, accommodation, and meals, between 2010 and this year, based on politicians’ disclosures.

    Politicians who took those trips include Foreign Minister Julie Bishop, Trade Minister Steve Ciobo, and former Trade Minister Andrew Robb.

    Huawei accounted for 12 out of 55 corporate-sponsored trips by federal politicians, the ASPI research found.

    Iron ore miner Fortescue Metals Group was the second-largest corporate sponsor, paying for five trips, according to the research, while the biggest non-corporate sponsor was the Australia/Israel and Jewish Affairs Council which paid for 44 trips

    Huawei, which denies it is controlled by the CCP / Chinese Communist Party, is the world’s largest maker of telecommunications network equipment and the No. 3 smartphone supplier. It has already been virtually shut out of the giant U.S. market because of national security concerns.

    Huawei was targeted by a U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission report, which was released in April, that said the company has extensive ties with the Chinese regime. Ren Zhengfei, the founder of the company, was a former officer in the People’s Liberation Army. He continues to run the company today.


    Huawei’s Australian spokesman, Jeremy Mitchell, said the company was not doing anything improper. “We openly invite media, business, think tanks and politicians to visit us and understand us better,” Mitchell told the Australian Broadcasting Corp (ABC), which first reported the story.

    Three of the politicians who travelled on a Huawei-sponsored trip told the ABC the trips were all-expenses paid study tours to see China’s technological growth.

    Australian security agencies and Huawei have clashed over worries that the firm’s links to CCP make its hardware a data security risk. It was blocked on security grounds from supplying equipment to Australia’s new broadband network and Australia this month promised hundreds of millions of dollars to ensure Huawei did not build an internet cable between Australia and the Solomon Islands.

    BY REUTERS

    China’s Huawei Top Sponsor of Australian Politicians... 01 Jun 2019.


    Huawei’s Political Connections | The China Story

    thechinastory.orgyearbooks/yearbook-2013…huaweis…
    The Chairman of Huawei in Australia is retired Australian rear admiral, John Lord. The former Coalition government foreign minister Alexander Downer and former Labor premier of Victoria John Brumby are two of the directors on its Australian board.


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    Revelation 13:16-17


    Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.

    We are almost there..............

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    Top Cancer Research Advisor Compares Wireless Radiation To Cigarettes





    IN BRIEF


    • The Facts:


    Doctors treating patients from over-exposure to wireless radiation joined scientists at Queen's Park to recommend the Ontario Government take steps to protect public health before the roll-out of 5G – the next generation of cell phone tech.



    • Reflect On:


    How are technologies like this approved by federal health regulatory agencies without any appropriate safety testing?

    It’s truly astonishing how the health concerns regarding wireless radiation, which are firmly established in scientific literature, are often ignored and not addressed within the mainstream media. Given the fact that mainstream media controls a large amount of people’s perception and awareness with regards to multiple issues, the health concerns regarding 5G are still largely off the radar on the minds of many.


    We’ve seen many examples of how federal health regulatory agencies have been completely compromised by corporations, and the new 5G issue appears no different at the moment. This is how certain products and services get approved without ever really going through any appropriate safety testing.

    A great example of this type of corporate corruption in the United States, for example, was outlined a few years ago by a group of more than a dozen scientists from within the CDC who put out a public statement, while remaining anonymous, outlining the big problem of corporate influence and the effect it is having on health policy decisions. They were referred to as the Spider Papers. The authors heavily stressed just how big of a problem this truly is.


    Fast Internet, But Huge Health Risks



    One of my latest articles on the subject of 5G brought to light a report published by Martin L. Pall, a PhD and Professor Emeritus of Biochemistry and Basic Medical Sciences at Washington State University, who stated that “Putting in tens of millions of 5G antennae without a single biological test of safety has got to be about the stupidest idea anyone has had in the history of the world.”


    These health concerns are exactly why a Belgian government minister announced that Brussels is halting its 5G plans. Even before the 5G rollout, multiple countries banned Wifi & Cell Phones around schools, young children & fetuses.


    With so much information and initiatives out there being created, it really goes to show that we do no live in a democracy at all. Various “things” are imposed on the populace without our knowing, and politicians never address the real concerns that the people have. Take Donald Trump for example, who recently stated that “5G is a race we will win.” On CETV we analyzed why Trump is pushing so hard for 5G, you can watch the segment here. I also recently wrote an article regarding Canadian Prime Minster Justin Trudeau and 5G, where he also completely ignores the well known health concerns.


    The truth is, doctors have been treating patients from over-exposure to wireless radiation for a while, despite the fact that many out there still, unfortunately, believe it to be a mental condition, which is misguided given all of the published science and clear harm that’s being inflicted. Scientists and doctors recently came together at Queen’s park in Toronto, Ontario, urging the provincial government to take steps to protect public health before the roll out of wireless 5G – the next generation of cell phone technology. That being said, 5G tech is already rolled out, a lot of people are using it for their internet connection, for example.

    You can watch the full hearing below.

    “My clinic is already assessing patients from across Ontario who are sensitive to microwave radiation from their wireless devices including cell phones, Wi-Fi, and an increasing number of smart appliances,” said Dr. Riina Bray, Medical Director of the Environmental Health Clinic at Women’s College Hospital in Toronto. “We expect wireless 5G to add to this burden.”

    Scientists and doctors from dozens of countries are now coming together to warn their governments about what is going on. The only issue is that governments have been compromised by corporations, but awareness is still charging ahead. The initial 5G infrastructure in Ontario is set to begin in the Toronto to Montreal corridor. Without this implementation, daily human exposure to microwave radiation is already much higher than a trillion times higher than it was before cell phones.

    Dr. Anthony Miller, Professor Emeritus with the University of Toronto, and adviser to the International Agency for Research on Cancer said: “Many scientists worldwide now believe that radiofrequency radiation should be elevated to a Class One human carcinogen, on the same list as Cigarettes, X-Rays, and Asbestos.”


    The doctors advised the province that increased health care costs can be avoided if the government takes precautions to protect the public from exposure to wireless 5G technology.

    You can get a transcript of the event and more at Canadians for Safe Technology C4ST.orghttp://c4st.org/ontario-doctors-warn...r-5g-roll-out/


    As always, if you want to find out more information and science about this subject, as well as ways you can reduce our exposure and protect yourself, a great place to start is with the Environmental Health Trust.




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    5G Space Appeal: News and Needs



    Alarming Decline in Millennials’ Health


    Millennials — the first generation to grow up using cell phones — are experiencing an unprecedented decline in their health when they reach their late 20s.



    On April 24, 2019, the American health insurance association Blue Cross Blue Shield released a report titled “The Health of Millennials.” It showed not only that the health of this generation takes a sharp decline beginning at age 27, but also that the prevalence of many medical conditions rose precipitously among millennials in just three years.

    The prevalence of eight of the top ten conditions among all millennials showed a double-digit increase in 2017 as compared with 2014. Major depression increased 31%. Hyperactivity increased 29%. Type II diabetes increased 22%. Hypertension increased 16%. Psychoses increased 15%. High cholesterol increased 12%. Crohn’s disease and ulcerative colitis increased 10%. Substance use disorder increased 10%.

    The decline in millennials’ health from 2014 to 2017 was not due to their being three years older. The report also compared the health of millennials who were 34-36 years old in 2017 to the health of Gen Xers who were 34-36 years old in 2014. At the same age, 34- to 36-year-olds in 2017 had 37% more hyperactivity, 19% more diabetes, 18% more major depression, 15% more Crohn’s disease and ulcerative colitis, 12% more substance use disorder, 10% more hypertension, and 7% more high cholesterol than 34- to 36-year-olds had in 2014.

    When the researchers looked at all health conditions, they found that 34- to 36-year-olds in 2017 had a 21% increase in cardiovascular conditions, a 15% increase in endocrine conditions, and an 8% increase in other physical conditions compared to 34- to 36-year-olds in 2014.

    The Blue Cross Blue Shield report is here: https://www.bcbs.com/the-health-of-america/reports/the-health-of-millennials The only reasonable explanation for the alarming decline in health of the millennial generation is the life-long irradiation of their brains and bodies from their cell phones.


    First Launches of 5G Satellites

    On the evening of May 23, 2019, Elon Musk’s company SpaceX launched its first 60 “Starlink” satellites into low orbit around the Earth. The satellites were launched from the Kennedy Space Center in Florida on a Falcon 9 rocket. Musk announced his intention to carry out six more launches this year, each carrying 60 satellites, and that when the first 420 satellites are in orbit, they will be turned on and will begin providing global 5G service to SpaceX’s first customers. This could happen by the end of 2019.


    SpaceX intends for its rockets to carry 120 satellites at a time into orbit beginning in 2020, and to complete its planned fleet of 12,000 satellites within a decade. SpaceX’s license from the U.S. Federal Communications Commission permits each satellite to emit an effective radiated power of up to 5 million watts.


    SpaceX’s competitor, OneWeb, is not far behind. OneWeb launched the first 6 of its planned fleet of 4,540 satellites on February 27, 2019. It announced its intention to launch 36 satellites per month and to turn them on as soon as 648 satellites are in orbit. This could happen by the end of 2020.


    On April 4, 2019, Amazon announced that it is planning to launch its own fleet of more than 3,000 5G satellites.


    5G in Space is a planetary emergency, as outlined in the article of that title that I wrote a year ago: http://www.cellphonetaskforce.org/planetary-emergency. It is an emergency not just because of the direct radiation from the satellites, but because of the location of the satellites in the ionosphere. The ionosphere is an integral part of the global electrical circuit that animates all living things. Even a few hundred satellites using the enormous amount of bandwidth that is available in the millimeter wave spectrum is expected to pollute the global electrical circuit — and therefore our bodies — with what building biologists call dirty electricity. This is likely to be catastrophic to all life on Earth.


    I am presently involved in an effort to open up lines of communication with the principals of the satellite projects, including Elon Musk. They care about the future of this planet too, and they mistakenly think they are doing good.


    Federal Lawsuit to Stop 5G

    The Santa Fe Alliance for Public Health and Safety filed a lawsuit to stop 5G in U.S. District Court in New Mexico on December 21, 2018. We are asking the court to declare that city, state, and federal laws which deprive citizens of the right to protect themselves from harm, and deprive injured persons of any remedy for their injuries, are unconstitutional and void. These laws violate the First Amendment rights to free speech and to petition the government for redress of grievances. These laws violate the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments because they deprive people of life, liberty and property without due process of law, and because they are a taking of property without just compensation. Our First Amended Complaint can be seen here: http://www.cellphonetaskforce.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Doc-19-First-Amended-Complaint.pdf.



    Appeal Statistics, Appeal Needs


    Signatures as of June 6, 2019

    These are the approximate numbers of people to date who have signed the International Appeal to Stop 5G on Earth and in Space:
    2,000 scientists
    1,400 medical doctors
    4,000 engineers
    2,200 nurses
    2,500 psychologists
    1,200 organizations
    100,000 total individuals and organizations from 187 countries.


    Please Circulate the Appeal

    It is time to push this Appeal hard. Please send the Appeal (www.5gSpaceAppeal.org), and also forward this email, to everyone you know. Every person on Earth has a stake in our future. We need as many signatures from as many different kinds of people as possible.


    While we were working on the website, some people had problems accessing the signature form. That is now fixed, and everybody should be able to sign. Please do not sign more than once. If you sign for the first time now, your name will appear on the website within a few days. If you signed between December and April, your name will be appear on the list within a few weeks. Signatures are now processed automatically, but I still have to review all the submissions before making them live. I am working as fast as I can to keep up.


    Donations Are Needed

    Donations are needed to support every aspect of this work — the federal lawsuit, the International Appeal to Stop 5G on Earth and in Space, a media campaign, lobbyists to present the Appeal to governments, etc. I need a secretary and a bookkeeper. Donations can be made on the Appeal website and are tax-deductible for U.S. citizens:https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/donate. For large donations or stock transfers, please contact me. A big thank you to those who have already contributed.


    This work is also supported by sales of my book, The Invisible Rainbow: A History of Electricity and Life (AGB Press 2017). It gives the background history and science that is necessary in order to understand what is happening today. It is the first book ever published that tells the history of electricity from an environmental point of view. It is available for sale here: http://www.cellphonetaskforce.org/buy-the-invisible-rainbow. All proceeds go into the effort to stop 5G.


    Also a big thank you to Antoinette Janssen and Multerland, who turned my talk in Taos, New Mexico of August 12, 2018 into a superb YouTube video:







    5G Space Appeal: News and Needs, 6/10/2019



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