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    Where Are the English-Americans?

    They are the glue that still holds the country together.There are Irish-Americans, Scots-Americans, and Scotch-Irish-Americans. There are Polish-Americans, German-Americans, Mexican-Americans, Chinese-Americans, and a host of other hyphenated citizens. Why are there no English-Americans?


    England was the cultural mother of the United States, and Englishness is its default culture. Colonists do not come to assimilate into an existing culture but to transplant their own. The English who came to America in the 17th century were intent on creating a world in their own cultural image, though with certain variations, such as different religious regimens.


    The English were also the numerically dominant pioneers from the Jamestown settlement of 1607 until the Revolution. At the time of the first US census in 1790, English-descended settlers accounted for 60 per cent of the white population, and the majority of the other whites were from Scotland, Ireland, and Wales. The total population was 3,929,214, of which 3,172,006 were white and 757,208, or 19 percent, were black.


    It is possible that English ancestry was downplayed in the 1790 census and for much of the 19th century because of the anti-British feeling caused by the American Revolution and various disputes afterwards such as the War of 1812. If so, the under-recording of English ancestry would have continued though succeeding generations. Whatever figures are correct, it is certain that by 1790 English was the dominant language and the template for American society had been cut.


    Most of the colonists considered themselves English. Even the rebels justified rebellion on the ground that they were defending true English liberty that had been usurped by the king. The Declaration of Independence is a catalogue of breaches of what the colonials considered to be their rights as Englishmen.
    Those in Britain who were sympathetic to the Americans’ cause had no doubt that the 13 colonies were English creations in spirit as well as blood. In 1775 in the House of Commons, Edmund Burke urged the British government to accept the colonists’ demands because they were based on Englishness:
    . . . the people of the colonies are descendants of Englishmen . . . . They are therefore not only devoted to liberty, but to liberty according to English ideas and on English principles. The people are Protestants . . . a persuasion not only favourable to liberty, but built upon it . . . . My hold of the colonies is in the close affection which grows from common names, from kindred blood, from similar privileges, and equal protection. These are ties which, though light as air, are as strong as links of iron. . . . As long as you have the wisdom to keep the sovereign authority of this country as the sanctuary of liberty, the sacred temple consecrated to our common faith, wherever the chosen race and sons of England worship freedom, they will turn their faces towards you.
    American history is soaked in Englishness. The prime political texts of the Revolution were written by the Englishmen John Locke and Tom Paine. The Revolution was fought by men whose thinking was rooted in the English political tradition. American law is founded on English common law.

    Second, since the English are the oldest group, their European ancestry is more distant than that of other ethnic groups. Children whose parents came from England 10 generations ago are not going to grow up hearing much about the Old Country. At the same time, any sense of English ancestry probably diminishes when an American of English descent marries someone from a more recently arrived ethnic group. A child who has one parent who is a 10th-generation English-American and another who is a second-generation Italian-American is likely to hear more about Italy than England in the home.
    There is also the temptation in an age of ethnic politics for people to claim an ancestry that they think most advantageous. The English in America do not make a fuss about being English, while other groups do, and people are drawn to groups that seek attention. An interesting example of this is the number of American presidents who claim Irish ancestry, not matter how tenuous.
    There is also the pressure of political correctness that casts WASPs (into which category almost all English-Americans would fall) as an abusive, exploitative group. That may discourage some from identifying as English.
    https://www.amren.com/features/2012/...ish-americans/

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    I'm mostly English.

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    Even though my paternal grandmother was German, I'm mainly a descendant of English immigrants... And I don't feel the need to boast of my 'superior genetic lineage' by hyphenating that I'm "English-American". Actions are worth far more than words. And the proof of this fact is what America blossomed into until the foul spirit of egalitarianism promoted by Cultural Marxists caused our unique culture to start crumbling into a state of confused chaos.
    Aside from an ever increasing number of mortals who have willfully chosen to worship Satan and his minions, our battle has always been against the powers and principalities operating surreptitiously throughout this twisted world.

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    The real national consciousness of the US has been lost long ago. Being English just isn't cool anymore.It's amazing how it all dissappeared with no real notice, even from the nationalists.

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    What's the great of being British American .... for example against German Americans or Dutch Americans?

    I would rise the latter ones over the first one. Sorry British.

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    The average americans at this point are literally (according to all autosomal analysis) a pleasant mix of elements from the british isles and the continental germanic countries. All the rest are marginal, genetically speaking.

    You should hold to that instead of too specific ethnicity, if I could call it in that way, like english-american.

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    They're just simply called American now, rather than English-American; they're extremely assimilated, some having almost no knowledge that they're even English in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    What's the great of being British American .... for example against German Americans or Dutch Americans?

    I would rise the latter ones over the first one. Sorry British.
    Maybe you would know the answer to that if you read the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    Maybe you would know the answer to that if you read the article.
    Simply doing something won't make anybody great ... doing something clearly better than somebody else (same changes) ... do.
    Or that is how I tend to think.

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    What's the great of being British American .... for example against German Americans or Dutch Americans?

    I would rise the latter ones over the first one. Sorry British.
    Finnish Swede, purely out of curiosity (and I won't sidetrack the thread beyond asking this question) why do you prefer the Germans and Dutch to the British?

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