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    The Afterlife in Norse Myth

    I love this man, Jackson Crawford...

    Norse beliefs in the afterlife were more complicated than usually presented today, and their unusual perspective has often bewildered modern translators. This video looks at general concepts of the afterlife, early evidence, and descriptions of Hel (the afterworld and the goddess who rules it).


    A close look at Old Norse descriptions of Valhǫll (Valhalla). Part 2 in a series looking at Old Norse beliefs in the afterlife. Includes full original translations of Eiríksmál and Hákonarmál.


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    As JC admits himself, there's a lot of speculation involved about the meaning of words and their possible origins.

    Sadly, there's no way of knowing after all this time and it's doubtful that any new evidence will emerge so you just choose the interpretation(s) you're most comfortable with.

    Interestingly, he surmises that the word 'Hel' could simply mean 'grave' and I once had something very similar told to me by a Jehova's Witness. They believe that 'Hell' is just a (mis-)translation of the word 'hole' and that those who lead bad lives don't go anywhere after death ... they just remain in their hole/grave.

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    Some definitions.....................

    There are three words translated "Hell" in the New Testament, Hades and Tartarus, which are Greek, and Gehenna, which is the Greek form of the Hebrew words Gee and Hinnom, meaning "the valley of Hinnom." 1. HADES. This word occurs eleven times, and is rendered "grave" once, and "hell" ten times.

    In the King James Bible, the Old Testament term Sheol is translated as "Hell" 31 times, and as "the grave" 31 times. ... The Hebrew word abaddon, meaning "destruction", is sometimes interpreted as a synonym of "Hell".

    Except in this verse of 1 Corinthians, where it uses "grave", the King James Version translates "ᾅδης" as "hell". Modern translations, for which there are only 10 instances of the word "ᾅδης" in the New Testament, generally transliterate it as "Hades".

    In my belief the word means Eternal separation from the Creator God. It is a religious faith issue.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2uZkPzJrZc

    An interesting look at reincarnation from a scientific point of view.
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    http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/hive/

    This person has a very scholarly take on the Norse afterlife.
    "This World We Cannot Tolerate,
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    From Odin's Tree!"
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    The Reality of the Afterlife

    There are a lot of strange and incorrect views of the afterlife, and sometimes even Christians will adopt some of those views. What we need is a biblical view.
    Heaven exists. And of course, so does Hell. We need to think about this, because as we get older, the afterlife is getting closer. We start losing friends and family, and we know our day will come. One day we might realize that we have more friends in Heaven than we have on earth.
    When I was a kid, it seemed as though the third grade lasted ten years. Now decades go by. I’ve lived through all the decades of the music channels on satellite radio. (You know you’re getting older when nineties songs are called oldies.)
    Life marches on. Eternity gets closer. And the Bible is very clear on what happens when you die: If you are a Christian, you will go straight to Heaven. And if you are not a Christian—and I don’t say this with any delight—you will go to Hell. Jesus Himself said, “You can enter God’s Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way” (Matthew 7:13 NLT).
    And according to Jesus and the rest of Scripture, more people are going to Hell than are going to Heaven. That is not what God wants, but He has given us a free will.

    If we Christians believe what the Bible says about the afterlife, then why are we not doing more to warn people about the reality of Hell? My hope is that the knowledge that Hell is real will motivate unbelievers to come to Christ. I also hope it would motivate believers to share their faith with more urgency.

    I'm not taking any chances, I got nothing to lose....................

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    So what about all those who are right on the borderline then, schwab?

    Inevitably, some will just miss out on this place called 'Heaven' and others will get lucky, but why does it have to be a straight choice between eternal paradise or the torments of hell with nothing in between?

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    There is no borderline.
    Have you ever read about the "White throne Judgment" ? That is where the final outcome will take place.

    Revelation 20:11-15

    Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwab View Post
    The Reality of the Afterlife

    If we Christians believe what the Bible says about the afterlife, then why are we not doing more to warn people about the reality of Hell? My hope is that the knowledge that Hell is real will motivate unbelievers to come to Christ. I also hope it would motivate believers to share their faith with more urgency.

    I'm not taking any chances, I got nothing to lose....................
    When the Frisian king Redbad asked just before he got baptised: Will I meet my (heathen) ancestors in heaven? the answer was no. He replied: Then why would I want to go to heaven!
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    Schwab, there has to be a borderline because the world doesn't divide up neatly between perfect individuals and unworthy rogues.

    I've just read that Revelations piece ...

    Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
    ... it's complete nonsense, as expected but it still doesn't answer my question about those who narrowly fail to get a pass mark in this so-called 'book of life'. I suppose they just get tossed into the 'lake of fire' along with all the rabble, eh?

    Seriously, this kind of stuff may have scared the sh*t out of medieval populations but you've got to be mental to believe in such bunkum today

    And please, don't just come back with: "but it's my faith"

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