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    Post Re: Re: Pffft!!!!

    Slavs controlled Austria-Hungary? It's news to me, I thought it was the severely inbred and retarded Hapsburg family. :eek:

    http://www.msu.edu/course/lbs/333/fall/hapsburglip.html

    Jews loved living in Austria-Hungary just as today they love living in Hungary, Budapest especially. Hungary has a diverse population with Slavic, German, Romanian and gypsy minorities and some people are assimilated remnants of various invasions and alliances (Huns, Cumanians, Jász, etc). Jews want to make populations as diverse as possible so no one will take notice of them, and since on external appearances they are good neighbors, people will be too busy trying to protect themselves from negroes and more problematic people to even notice the jews scheming behind the scenes. The former Soviet Union also has this sort of diversity.

    The "Slavs believed in Communism, so they must be inferior" argument is not applicable. Didn't Communism exist in Germany and Central Europe for quite some time? And there are Communist political parties in Europe today, some with members in parliament. Jewish ideology is followed all over the world now, so everyone must be inferior to the Zulus. eyes:

    Originally posted by Von Braun
    What I meant is that historically jews have clustered by slavs, and thier ideology took root among slavs, and the slav run Austro-Hungarian empire screwed Austria, etc. So therefore I figured there had to be a reason jews lived there more so than in western europe. Maybe there is another explanation for why there were so many jews in eastern europe. I will listen with an open mind.

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    Ladygoeth, Hitler (a man who knew the political entity in question intimately) perceived that Slavic interests got more than their fair share of attention in Austria-Hungary. Consequently, Teutonic interests were displaced. An obvious example was the fact that Austria did not join the rest of the German areas in the formation of the German state in 1870. Of course, it probably was jews who were responsible for this. In other words, jews favored Slavs over Teutons in that context.

    I agree with everything else in your post. Jews do try to disguise themselves with these tactics.

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    I don't trust Hitler's perceptions, especially on issues involving Slavs and Hungary. It's fair to say he would have been a bit biased in that area. Every hillybilly art school reject in Austria-Hungary knew the government intimately?

    Austrians could have just moved to Germany if they didn't like it, crying about the Hapsburg affirmitive action programs toward the Slavs is pretty lame if you ask me. Yeah, everything bad is from the jews. eyes:

    Still haven't proven anything to me on this subject, just what you believe Hitler's perceptions were and that it was "probably jews."

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    I don't trust Hitler's perceptions, especially on issues involving Slavs and Hungary. It's fair to say he would have been a bit biased in that area. Every hillybilly art school reject in Austria-Hungary knew the government intimately?
    Whatever his station in life, he was an intelligent and observant man who lived in that era and that region.

    Austrians could have just moved to Germany if they didn't like it
    I recall you saying that the attitude of americans, that Europeans should leave a flawed Europe, is arrogant. You obviously seem to be against this sort of thing, according to your earlier statement (it was in the thread where I said your significant other should come here, rather than vice versa). So Austrians should have done the practical thing and move to Germany, but modern European WNs should not do the practical thing (move to the u.s.)?


    Yeah, everything bad is from the jews.
    Many bad things are from them. If they are close to where the trouble happened, and one of their modus operandis was used, then it is a safe assumption that the jews were involved. It is called a "smoking gun." They are the last people who need defending, especially from an intelligent racialist.

    Still haven't proven anything to me on this subject, just what you believe Hitler's perceptions were and that it was "probably jews."
    Aren't you happy that I revised my opinion (what transpired was due to jews pulling strings on behalf of slavs (for their own benefit, of course))?
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    Originally posted by Von Braun
    So Austrians should have done the practical thing and move to Germany, but modern European WNs should not do the practical thing (move to the u.s.)?
    There is nothing practical about moving to America, except for third world intellectuals who want to make money. Europe is the ancient homeland, it's worth fighting for more than America. An Austrian moving to Germany is like an American moving to Canada. It's no big deal, it's the same language, culture and people.

    They are the last people who need defending, especially from an intelligent racialist.
    I'm not defending the jews. :amok I think this clichéd view of "everything bad must be from the jews" is not in the interest of historical fact. If I want Nazi propaganda I'll read it from Goebbels.

    Aren't you happy that I revised my opinion?
    Do I care that you invented historical inaccuracies and opinions which favor the Slavs this time? No.

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    I'm not anti-Nazi, BTW I respect their struggle against the jews but it's not as if I should be expected to favor them. They stole, destroyed the land of my ancestors, treated them like slaves and kidnapped their children.

    German ancient history was not proud like that of Italy/Rome. It was a good honest life, though. Despite all the great German genius and accomplishments, this minor detail of their ancient origins was something they disliked and was troubling for Hitler.

    "Why do we call the whole world's attention to the fact that we have no past? It isn't enough that the Romans were erecting great buildings when our forefathers were still living in mud huts; now Himmler is starting to dig up these villages of mud huts and enthusing over every potsherd and stone axe he finds. All we prove by that is that we were still throwing stone hatchets and crouching around open fires when Greece and Rome had already reached the highest stage of culture. We really should do our best to keep quiet about this past. Instead Himmler makes a great fuss about it all. The present-day Romans must be having a laugh at these relegations."

    They felt the need to emphasize something else to compensate for this. So the "Slavs are inferior" theory became part of the ideology in late 1930's to uplift Germans and justify the conquest of Lebensraum. The untermensch label was especially for Poles and Russians, somehow Czechs or Bohemians as they were then called, were seen as more civilized thanks to their close interaction with the Germans.

    Anyway, to see this idea taken out of it's historical context of late 19th Century-1940's Germany and repeat over and over for so long it's kind of a sad statement on how people will believe anything to make themselves feel superior.

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    There are two options, in regard to survival:

    1) France and the U.K. are turned into pro-white countries willing to obliterate israel.

    2) The u.s. is turned into a pro-white country willing to obliterate israel.

    Do you think that the next phase of your life, in Hungary, will help LePen take France and/or the BNP take the U.K.?

    I do not maintain that all things bad have come from jews. I do maintain that there are things that they are and have been responsible for that have escaped the attention of even some of us. Is vigilance against them wrong? If we attribute a few things to them that they are innocent of, but get the overwhelming share of it right, then are the few errors really an issue? We already have justification for regarding them as an enemy. Whether or not a few items here or there on the "list of charges" against them are accurate is moot (except from the scholarly historical viewpoint, and I am assuming that this is where you are coming from ) .

    In regard to the Germans being less accomplished in ancient times: this seems to be true. However, the ancient Teutons were not as primitive as once thought (as recent archaeological discoveries have confirmed). The defeat of the Romans in the early part of the first century of the common era indicates that the Germans were not stone age at that point in history (the reference to stone tools must refer to an earlier epoch).

    Finally, I have noticed that you have labelled as losers the men behind the Third Reich. True, they did lose the war. However, this does not reflect on their ideology. If you and your boyfriend are jumped by several men, and they beat him and rape you, does this make your boyfriend a loser, or a failure as a man? No, he was attacked by several men. There is no law of nature that says the most sound ideology will prevail. It is the duty of the beleivers in the best ideology to do their best to make that ideology prevail. This is all that can be expected. Scientific truths have been "defeated" before. That did not turn the truths into non-truths, rather, it proved that shit happens.
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    Originally posted by NAZZ
    I think he is being quite objective to be accused of being biased. Everyone probably has a slight bias, some though have an extreme one and that certainly is not NordischesBlutundEhre. So you should rather not accuse him. Sincerely this is BULLSHIT!
    Oh PLEASE, he learned Russian explicitly for the purpose of giong to Russia to meet a Russian girl! He's studied Russian history! He's practically obssessed with everything russian! The best part is, that he doesn't even have any slavic ancestry, what what's with that? I'm over half German by blood, and yes I love Germany, that is justified, his slavic lust is not.

    I get really sick of your cowardly attacks on me.

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    Oh PLEASE, he learned Russian explicitly for the purpose of giong to Russia to meet a Russian girl!
    No, I learned Russian because I think Russia may be our best hope for preserving our race. Why do you think David Duke was working in Russia? See his article "Is Russia the Key to White Survival?"

    He's studied Russian history!
    Oh God forbid!!! I actually value learning history!!!

    He's practically obssessed with everything russian!
    No one else has made this observation that I know of...

    The best part is, that he doesn't even have any slavic ancestry, what what's with that?
    I have to have Slavic ancestry to respect Slavs and the contributions they have made to Aryan civilization?
    x_p

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