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    Ever Heard or Read About This?

    I have done extensive searches about my Germanic origins. I concluded that my ancestors were part of the Germanic suevi/suebi tribe. My last name Schwab can be found in Southern Germany / Switzerland. They also crossed the Rhine river into Alsace where I'm from. It all makes sense.
    Now I came across another puzzle. Swabians, Alemannians and Swiss Germans are of the tribe of Levi, one of Israels lost tribe. Is that why Jews are all over Europe?

    Your thoughts?......................Read and study the following...........

    Germany: A branch of Israel

    Biblical and secular history shows that the Germans are descendants of the lost tribes of Israel. Genetics confirm that modern Germans are closely related to Britons, the Dutch, Scandinavians and other peoples of Israelite origin. Several authorities on the tribes of Israel also believe that the Germans are Israelites, and specifically of tribes descended from Jacob’s wife Leah.

    Table of contents

    • The lost tribes of Israel trek to Germany and Scandinavia
    • The Franks of the tribe of Reuben
    • Bavarians and Austrians of the tribe of Simeon
    • Swabians, Alemannians and Swiss Germans of the tribe of Levi
    • The Saxon Germans of the tribe of Judah
    • DNA of modern Germans
    • German language and religion
    • People who have identified the Germans as Israelites
    • Bibliography
    • http://www.nordiskisrael.dk/artikler/germany_a_branch_of_israel.htm

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    Your thoughts?
    Complete bollox!

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    Israel is the white race. Jews are the people we were commanded to exterminate in the old testament and failed to do so.
    Oh the national colors of Germany Black, White and Red are the colors of the Levitical tribe. They signify the three regions
    settled after the flood by our folk. Northern Africa (black for the hottest) Northern India (the Coldest) and Red for the middle east. Theres still a pass in the caucasus mountains called the "pass of Israel."

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    Very interesting!...........
    I wonder if others are going to chime in on this.
    SaxonPagan did already and considers it "bollox"
    My question always is and was where did the 12 tribes go and end up? It is a Biblical fact with no specifics.

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    Thats simple they are the various peoples of Europe.
    [QUOTE]http://childrenofyhwh.com/multimedia/library/Capt/Abrahamic-
    Covenant.pdf
    http://faktasiden.no/dokumenter/greatwhitedesert.pdf
    Where 13 Tribes of Jacob Are NowHere is a list of Jacob's 12 sons, the mother of each son, also the nations which have sprung from each tribe of Israel.


    No. Name Mother They Now Live In:

    1. 1 Reuben Leah France, White Russia and Portugal and Holland.
    2. 2 Simeon Leah Wales, also scattered among Israel (Genesis 49:7).
    3. 3 Levi Leah Scattered among all of the tribes (Genesis 49:7).
    4. 4 Judah Leah England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Europe, Americas.
    5. 5 Dan Bilhah Ireland, Scandanavia, also scattered among the tribes. Americas, Islands.




    1. 6 Naphtali Bilhah Italy, Spain, Portugal, Romania, Greece, Albania. Zilpah Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Slovaks,
    2. 7 Gad Zilpah Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Slovaks, Americas, Islands.
      8 Asher Zilpah Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, United States.
    3. 9 Issachar Leah Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Ukraine.
    4. 10 Zebulun Leah Austria, Hungary, Germany, Scandanavia, Spain, U.S.A.
      11 Manasseh Asenath Canada, Britain and the U.S.A.

    12 Benjamin Rachel Scandanavia, France, Britain, Australia, Iceland.
    00 Joseph Rachel Great Britainand the USA
    11 Manasseh
    Asenath Canada, Britain and the U.S.A.
    13 Ephraim Asenath Great Britain and the U.S.A.
    Bottom line there are various options on who exactly the various tribes represent as it's not specifically said.
    But with a little reading you can glean who it is.

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    Lets see :

    THE BIBLE ANSWER: For certain reasons the Lord Himself blinded the white race as to their identity about
    2500 years ago. See Rom. 11:25—11:8
    Verses that refer that the people you consider counterfeit Semites refused to believe Jesus is the Messiah. Also Paulus does not say to the Romans that they are really children of Israel. At least in the verses the author (and if there are he would no doubt have refered to those) of this piece are referring to in Epistle to the Romans :

    11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

    (…)

    11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.



    The Word "Fair" Refers to the White Race Adam and Eve were made with a fair skin. See Strong's Concordance. Fair means to show blood in the face! that is, ruddy, to flush or blush or turn rosy. Thirty times in the Bible the word "fair" is used to describe a white person.

    (...)
    Sigh, pseudo-ethomolology. First of all they refer to an translation and not the origanl texts. So if the author wanted to make such a point it should refer to the terms used in those. And then show that they mean white/ivory/cream. And not the word fair, if you trace the ethomology does not refer to someones skin, nor to showing blood in the face. I refer for this to etymologisch woordenboek of Jan de Vries.


    "The king of Assyria ... carried Israel into Assyria, and placed them in Halah and in Habor by the river Gozan,
    and in the cities of the Medes." (II Kings 17:16.)
    After about 50 years, the "house of Israel began to migrate north through the Caucasus into Europe and Great
    Britain and they are still there.
    First of all the refer to a wrong verse here :

    17:16 And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal.
    Verse 6 talks about them being placed there :

    17:6 In the ninth year of Hoshea the king of Assyria took Samaria, and carried Israel away into Assyria, and placed them in Halah and in Habor by the river of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes.
    Also what is the evidence for the claim that after that they moved trough the Caucaus to Europe and then Great Britain. Or could he not find a bible verse to support this claim.

    Quit frankly, this whole piece reeks of pseudo-science.
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    I keep studying this whole new belief. It is essentially the belief of British Israel-ism.
    One of the big preacher here in the States was Herbert W. Armstrong and his Church of God.

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    There are actually quite a few word studies out there. "Adam" means to be red or ruddy.
    In other words to be fair or show blood in the face.

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    Who in antiquity advocated strongly for twelve lost tribes of Israel besides Josephus and Christian theologians? Is the subject even treated by non-jewish/christian authors? It's too one-sided if no one on the other end spectrum took up any interest in the matter.

    This tendency to view oneself as "chosen" over the Jews by disclaiming their identity is most deplorable. The innumerable atrocities in the OT are either shifted to ancient Aryans (modern Jews get away scot-free) or justified (so ancient whites were no better than the Jews themselves).

    Who treats mice as tools and unleashes them on military equipment during a war resulting in innumerable deaths at the coming of dawn? Germans or Jews? In the OT, it's attributed to the "angel of the Lord", a convenient supernatural veil. Judges 15:4-5 is another great example.
    Goebbels is said to have ordered his men to release mice to disrupt a Berlin performance of Erich Maria Remarque’s pacifistic All Quiet on the Western Front. Yet the Americans came up with the idea of bat bombs and other absurdities.

    True/false Jew dichotomy is absurd. Products of Judaism always behave the same, more or less. It's the logical consequence. As Nietzsche put it, the Christian is 2-3 times the Jew. Jesus said they were "twice as much of a son of Gehenna" as the Jews.

    Revelation 3:9 can be explained away as follows: "those who are of the synagogue of Satan, those who claim to be [a member of the host's community i.e. Roman] though they are not, but are liars". It was probably altered to resolutely represent the Jewish viewpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    There are actually quite a few word studies out there. "Adam" means to be red or ruddy.
    In other words to be fair or show blood in the face.
    No, it is a Hewbrew word that means something like man, alto it might also mean something like earth. In references to how according to Genesis the first man was created, from a piece of earth. Now the Semetic word adom does appear to mean red, so I willing to concede that your sources might have confused these two words.

    Also no doubt you are familiar with the term redskin. Are willing to claim that your ancestors when they reached the new world that they thought the Indians where descendants of the Israelites as well. On basis of the claims you make here, they can make a similar claim. Namely that Adam means red and that your ancestors called them red skins. Ergo, they are descendants of the lost tribes of Israel.
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