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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    What do you personally see as obvious issues with NRM?
    1. Their rhetoric is purposefully vague and not just in regards to what they mean when they use terms like 'related peoples.' For example, after scanning their site & Gab page a bit more they say they may decide to expand into the Baltics. Well, do they want to do that or not? Do they have an actual policy regarding Russia? Wishy washiness just doesn't sell well.

    2. Hitlerism. They're wrapped up in the rhetoric and mindset of 1930s Germany and this makes them seem out of date. They literally have an article on their site's front page called 'Strasserism - The Enemy Within.' How many average Scandinavians care about this?

    3. Their image keeps getting more militaristic and edgy. Black uniforms, military style poses, calling themselves 'The Resistance', etc. Do they want to draw in fan girls and and go boxing with their buddies on the weekends or do they actually want to win political power? And don't even get me started on those white button up shirt uniforms with tucked in ties - that combination makes a man look like a waiter. The goddess of fashion is haughtily shaking her head right now.

    With that said, I'm sure there are many excellent members of this organization. It's obvious to me that their degree of discipline, organization, and focus is significantly better than that of any similar movement in the USA, Canada, or Australia.

    Interesting. I didn't know about the 'White Sharia' chants at Charlottesville. I was of the understanding that the local authorities had already decided to dismantle the demonstration even before it started, by announcing a 'state of emergency' before there had been any clashes at all between the Alt-Right and the Anti-FA.
    The local authorities certainly didn't want to be seen as supportive of the rally but the videos of the cops reaction to the chant really speaks for themselves. The attendees ghettoized themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    While the (((West))) declares the Shia moslems 'terrorists' (Hezbollah, Baath, Iran...) and caters to the actual (sunni/wahhabi) terrorists, it's as said not unreasonable for European nationalists to have a (careful) contact with the Shias. They want their people back in their countries, they're not interested in colonizing Europe with Islam. It would be stupid not to "network" with them when they share the same goals.
    Lol, Iran regularly promotes anti-White rhetoric. The current Ayatollah has even signaled his support of Black Lives Matter & the Global Left's narrative regarding 'the evil White man':

    If the United States “has any power” then it should “better manage” the country and “tackle #WhiteSupremacy rather than meddle in nations’ affairs,” Khamenei posted Wednesday on Twitter, adding a #Charlottesville hashtag.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/08/16/irans-supreme-leader-says-the-u-s-should-tackle-white-supremacy/
    They want two things:

    1. A multiracial Islamic empire.

    2. For the USA to leave the middle east and for Israel's power to implode.

    'The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend'

    This, btw, also goes for Russia. While Europe had and has difficult relations with Russia and very bad experiences in the past, Russia/the Russian people are not our enemies. The US and the globalist puppets in EU of course see that differently, the hysteric witchhunt against Russia and Trump from democrats is proof of that (for the why, see Friedman). As nationalists, aiming towards a free and independent Europe, Russia however is vital. Americans may not like that, but it's really not our problem. It's not the US that is our "natural ally". This all must be understood if we want to break the globalist powers.
    Russia is a multiracial empire that throws actual nationalists in prison, unveiled a proposed world currency a few years back, and has created a 'Eurasian Union.' And as I've already pointed out, they're now operating fake accounts claiming to be housewives & students while trying to subvert & coopt political movements in the West. They're not pro-White, they're just anti-American and anti-NATO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dani View Post
    There's also photos on their Gab page with a Middle Eastern / mixed ally wearing one of their uniforms (my computer is wonky but if you zoom in on the photo you should be able to see that the middle guy is not a full blooded European):

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    That would be absolutely impossible to tell from such a bad quality picture. On top of that he wears a hat shading his face and sports a beard, further obscuring his facial details.

    But that guy in the middle is actually Icelandic and the leader of NRM in Iceland: Rķkharšur Leó Magnśsson.
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    https://nordicresistancemovement.org...es-in-iceland/
    https://nordicresistancemovement.org...landic-branch/
    The chances of him being non-European, even only partly, are zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dani View Post
    This all sounds very familiar to me. American WNs will often talk about 'good Palestinians' and try to ally with them only to find that they've wasted their time and alienated their own audience. Btw, I want to make it clear that I'm not saying we should be opposed to all of the other races in the world. There are plenty of foreign peoples who are absolutely zero threat to us and others who would happily trade with us without any malice. The MENAs are pretty low on the good foreigner list though. They're the ones who are invading Europe so talking about allying with them is only going to confuse potential recruits.
    https://nordicresistancemovement.org/alibis-vs-allies/

    Quote Originally Posted by Dani View Post
    Their political program, available here, also implies they wish to absorb 'other Northern Europeans and closely related peoples' into their nation. This is all rather vague, imo. Who does 'closely related peoples' refer to? All White people? Western Europeans? Eastern Europeans? A huge portion of our target audience in the Anglosphere is frustrated with the mass immigration of cheap Eastern European labor. I imagine a similar situation might exist in the Nordic realm.
    From their manifesto "Our Path":

    Our goal is not to first and foremost create a completely pure Nordic race, but rather to preserve the Nordic people as they are today, where the Nordic racial type is the domi-nating element in the Nordic gene pool. Since research on race has been taboo in all Nordic countries since 1945, we unfor-tunately suffer from a lack of modern and correct racial terms. This enables race deniers to continue spreading the lie that there are no uniquely different human races. In reality, it is in most cases quite obvious who is of Nordic or closely related descent. In more uncertain cases we could use modern genetic profiling to determine which people are predominantly of Nordic racial descent. Those who will be allowed to stay in the Nordic countries are, among others, all northern European ethnicities, a large portion of the central and eastern European ethnicities, parts of the southern European ethnicities and people with a northern European ethnic ancestry currently residing in other parts of the world. In other words, we mean that a majority of the indigenous people from the so-called Western world would be permitted to stay in the Nordic countries with full citizen rights, regardless of when they came into the country.
    Sounds simply like Nordicism or actually "Nordishism" (horrible looking word but you get the idea). It's just not entirely clear whether that would be decided on an individual or an ethnic basis. "Large portion" and "parts of ethnicities" could mean either, to me at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    When you look at immigrants crimes in Europe, you'd rarely find Iranians as the perpetrators. It's mostly Afghans, Iraq (Sunni), Arabs, North Africans, Turks.
    There simply aren't that many Iranians in Europe to begin with, compared to those other ethnicities. On top of that it's harder to get out of Iran, it's mostly secular and/or politically moderate dissidents and because of that the level of education tends to be higher than among the migrants of those ethnicities mentioned, which tends to decrease crime.
    So that finding tells us nothing in itself. Even if that were the case it's irrelevant, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dani View Post
    1. Their rhetoric is purposefully vague and not just in regards to what they mean when they use terms like 'related peoples.' For example, after scanning their site & Gab page a bit more they say they may decide to expand into the Baltics. Well, do they want to do that or not? Do they have an actual policy regarding Russia? Wishy washiness just doesn't sell well.
    I suppose it makes more sense when taking their amount of popular support into count. In the Swedish general election of 2018 (the first and only time they've been eligible to be voted for), they got just over 2000 votes, about 0.03% of the total votes. It doesn't matter what kind of policy they have regarding Russia at that point. It's far over the horizon of relevant battle fronts. I can imagine that's the same reason why they're flirting with establishing wings in the Baltics - to test the waters of Baltic recruits, which then can be used to bolster their numbers in demonstrations in Sweden (which is the first and foremost battleground for NRM, for obvious reasons). If they don't pick up much interest among the Baltics, they just leave it be, as it's not worth the effort, and because having influence in the Baltics isn't ideologically/strategically important anyway.

    Wishy-washy-ness may be frustrating for onlookers and sympathizers, but may yield a tactical flexibility that is valuable for the organization.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dani View Post
    2. Hitlerism. They're wrapped up in the rhetoric and mindset of 1930s Germany and this makes them seem out of date. They literally have an article on their site's front page called 'Strasserism - The Enemy Within.' How many average Scandinavians care about this?
    Yeah, that's pretty irrelevant. Ideology-porn for the core of veterans among their readers. They also love trotting out Vera Oredsson at their events, an old lady who grew up in the 1930s Germany and moved to Sweden after the war, giving speeches about the wonderful life in Hitler's Germany. That is well and good, but not really relatable for the average Swede.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dani View Post
    3. Their image keeps getting more militaristic and edgy. Black uniforms, military style poses, calling themselves 'The Resistance', etc. Do they want to draw in fan girls and and go boxing with their buddies on the weekends or do they actually want to win political power? And don't even get me started on those white button up shirt uniforms with tucked in ties - that combination makes a man look like a waiter. The goddess of fashion is haughtily shaking her head right now.
    Hehe, quite right I find their "standard civilian uniform" of jeans and flanell shirts, reminiscent of your average farmer, even less appealing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dani View Post
    With that said, I'm sure there are many excellent members of this organization.
    For sure. A lot of great speakers and debaters. Which is why I've always been puzzled by their choice of Simon Lindberg as their leader. Not that I think he's a bad guy, but I think there are other figures in the organization who would do a better job in that position. He doesn't have the charisma, aura of authority or intelligent rebuttals that characterizes a good (meta-)political leader.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dani View Post
    It's obvious to me that their degree of discipline, organization, and focus is significantly better than that of any similar movement in the USA, Canada, or Australia.
    I had great hopes for the Traditionalist Workers' Party in the US. It was sad to see they broke down the way that they did. Matthew Heimbach seemed like such an intelligent and refined character, and the last person I would suspect to engage in the kind of redneck soap opera that served as a death blow to the organization.
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    How the Swedish Academy lost a court case over Nazi use of classic poems



    The works included poems by several famous Swedish writers and texts dating back to the Viking Age.

    The Swedish Academy – the body best known for picking the Nobel Literature Prize laureate – lost a bid to bar a Nazi website from publishing classic Swedish poems.

    The case concerned several Swedish classic poems and other literary works that had been published on a website run by the Nordic Resistance Movement (NMR).

    The NMR is a group active in the Nordic countries and openly describes itself as adhering to National Socialism, another term for Nazism.

    The group was banned outright in Finland by the country’s Supreme Court in September 2020.

    The works in question included poems by Esaias Tegner (1782-1846), Viktor Rydberg (1828-1895), Verner von Heidenstam (1859-1940) and texts dating back to the Viking age.

    The Swedish Academy, which also publishes dictionaries and is an authoritative voice on Swedish language issues, had claimed the works fell under copyright laws that protect classic works even after the authors are long dead and their copyright has expired.

    According to a statement from the Patent and Market Court, the Academy had argued that the works could not be published alongside material that “was potentially criminal or at the very least expressed derogatory or offensive remarks about ethnic groups”, as doing so would present the works “in a foreign and offensive context”.

    The NMR in turn argued that the works were not protected under the classics clause since they had been presented in their original form and had not been altered.

    The court said this was the first time the clause, which dates back to the creation of the copyright law in 1960, had been tested but said there was nothing in the law that would be applicable to a situation like this.

    Judge Tomas Norström noted that the court’s efforts to seek guidance from statements on the purpose of the law from the 1950s had been difficult since they were written for a different time.

    But Norström added “that such an extensive interpretation as argued for by the Academy could have some consequences for freedom of speech and the press”, the court said in a statement.

    The permanent secretary of the Academy, Mats Malm, said the body had interpreted the law differently, and compared it to how a living author who found their works among a collage of hate speech could turn to a court to stop that.

    “But authors that have died don’t have that opportunity, and that’s where we think the protection for classic works comes in,” Malm told news agency TT.

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