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    "It is not known when and where exactly the first units of volunteers from the USSR, and from the countries annexed by Russia after 1939, were organized to fight against the Soviets on the German side. Their beginnings were shrouded in great secrecy, for fear of Hitler who was categorically opposed to any form of participation of Soviet citizens in the war against Russia...

    ...The Cossacks...greeted the Germans as liberators. The entire population of towns, villages and settlements went out to meet the German troops with flowers and gifts of all kinds, singing their national anthems. Cossack formations of the Red Army were coming over to the Germans in a body, new formations were springing up, apparently from nowhere, in traditional uniform and armed with swords, pistols, daggers, and rifles that had been buried for years.

    One of the old and well-known atamans (Cossack leaders), Kulakov, who since 1919 had been believed dead, came out of hiding and, accompanied by hundreds of Cossacks in resplendent dress and on magnificent horses, made a triumphant drive into Poltava. Thousands of Cossacks in POW. camps offered their services in the first against the Soviets. Even the remnants of the Kalmuk tribe, estimated at some 60 to 80 thousand people, formed and equipped 16 cavalry squadrons which cleared the steppes of the remaining Soviet units, showing no mercy. General Koestring, who knew Russia well and in August 1942 became Governor of the Caucasus, thought he was dreaming or watching a great historical film.(8) Such was the Cossacks' revenge for years of terror at the hands of the NKVD. ..."

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    I guess this is nice, but really I think most citizens of the USSR were screwed either way. Fight under the Swastika as "untermenschen", or fight under the Sickle and Hammer as "economic units".
    Regardless of who won the war, they were going to end up suffering big-time.

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    Originally posted by Kalos
    I guess this is nice, but really I think most citizens of the USSR were screwed either way...Regardless of who won the war, they were going to end up suffering big-time.
    This is very true.

    "Untermenschen" in the SS were not allowed to wear "SS" symbol. This went for the Croatian-Muslim division as well as[especially] anyone from the Soviet states. I guess there were many Slavs who would rather fight as "untermenschen" than fight for the USSR, especially the Cossacks because they were one of the first Russian groups to be targetted and dismantled by the Communists. They were exiled in a way, their "territories" taken from them.


    BTW, aren't the hats cool? x_p
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    http://www.skrewdriver.net/slav.html
    Interesting article on the topic

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    Originally posted by Yggdrasil


    These are cool

    lol
    I think "frozen" is much better word than "cool" in this case. No wonder their ears finally got frozen to the point of amputation.
    "Winter Fritz" was the name Russians used for inadequately dressed frozen Germans.
    Here is one "Winter Fritz":

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    This is what I call "Cool" in Siberian conditions.

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    Originally posted by Yggdrasil
    Yeah and you have piced a wonderfull example of russian solider....
    Most of those russians are mixed.
    This is not racial debate, however in the eyes of Heinrich Himmler Slavs like this Russian was also "mixed."
    So what your point? Should the proud nation as the Russians passively allow to be used like some sort of human trash, or should they fight? ... I know what would I choose!

    The russian tank T-34 (which was suppostely superior) had a hard time against the german Tigerpanzer.
    If you want i will post quotes about this...
    Not even armed the Russians did have much of a chance
    Who won the war: "Master race" or the Russians?


    besides im still wandering how they won the war with killing thair own people.
    Mass murders took place before the conflict with Germans. Stalin was not so stupid to slay his own cannon folder.

    By the way is it true that russias massmurdert polaks?And had about 600.000 polish POWs?.
    If Stalin was so mad to kill Russians, its quite normal that he slay us also. As I see its better to be dead or under communist oppression than to spend your whole life like some untermansh zombi.

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    << Well this can be seen out of any viewpoint, because those people could starve to death, or get Food for beeing a solider, which i would have done to feed my famely..... >>

    Of course I agree with you here. My point is that they were kind of doomed either way. It was a matter of choosing the lesser of two evils, and to the Slavs I feel that both the swastika and the sickle & hammer were evil.

    << I dont belive that they were seen as subhumans, i did never see a quote or anything like that. >>

    I strongly believe they were seen this way. Even in the modern era, many German racialists hate Slavs and see them as sub-humans.

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    Originally posted by Yggdrasil
    I love your post...

    Master race 1 Solider, against 20 Untermenschen....

    Im sure we would kick you ass with 20 skins...
    lol Skins.
    You don't need an Army to deal with them, few cops are more than enough.

    We don't have to go so far into history to prove Slav superiority. Are you really convinced that you can measure against nuclear megatons of Russia? Slavs are holding the keys of HELL that can destroy you and your kind in the matter of microseconds.

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    Originally posted by Yggdrasil
    Wow you guys have nucliar weapions?
    Dident you guys steal all that from the US? like the plans for the
    B52 Bomber.....
    ROFL
    And who said its wrong to steal?

    Your a polak with italian pride...that defends the russians...[/B]
    Not Italian, Roman pride.
    Rome is Power, and I see Russia as a new Slavic Rome or "The Third Rome" as their old-fashioned nationalists called it.

    The mayor Germanic/Kelt force America is in some real racial shits. In future it shall be really hard to find a White American amongst mestizos. With their downfall you loose your babysitter. Who shall protect you from those naughty Kossacks? HAHAHAHAHAHA!
    SLAWA!
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