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    To be going on with (the statistical information is piecemeal and not easy to source).

    2011-78% of sexual offenders were white, 9.9% black, 9.7% Asian and 2.4% other ethnicity. See https://assets.publishing.service.go...w-jan-2013.pdf

    Data for 2015/2016 In 24% of cases the ethnicity was not known. It needs to be taken into consideration ethnicity cannot be assumed by the Police. It has to be volunteered by the defendant.
    In the remaining 76% where it was recorded 67% white, 4% Asian, 3% black,1% mixed race and 1% other.
    See https://fullfact.org/crime/what-do-we-know-about-ethnicity-people-involved-sexual-offences-against-
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    Statistics from HM Prison Service, although dating back to 2007-
    White 81.9%, black 9.9%, Asian 5.6%, Mixed/Other 2.2% and not recorded 0.4%
    See https://fullfact.org/news/are-asians...-sex-offences/

    'Grooming' statistics-white 38%, Asian 26% and 32% unknown.

    See https://fullfact.org/news/are-asians...-sex-offences/

    Prison sentences for sex offences by ethnicity 2010

    White 76%, Asian 8%, black 7%, 1% other and 8% unknown

    See https://fullfact.org/news/are-asians...-sex-offences/

    Now the statistics do make it clear that blacks are 3 times more likely to be arrested but you will appreciate that just being arrested does not equate with being convicted of course but certainly when it comes to sexual offences the vast majority of these crimes are committed by whites.

    Now I want to make it clear that I am not defending Muslims but I have consistently pointed out that Islam is a symptom, not the cause of our decline. The real enemy is Zionism which Harris and his ilk do their best to cover for. I don't care what the race of the invader is-I want them all out of England-including the Scots and Poles!

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    We were talking about rape, not sex offenders - the possession or distribution of certain pornographic material could also be considered a sex crime, same goes for groping (and perhaps even sexually explicit comments?) - neither were we talking about "whites" but Englishmen. A significant number of these "whites" will be foreigners. Who counts as white in these statistics anyway? Jews? Gypsies? Who else? Foreign mafia members in the U.K. will also be amongst them.

    At any rate, these statistics you produced are mostly rather proportionate or along the lines of what we already knew. None of it is a surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuotans Krieger View Post
    I am sorry to disillusion you but white people and English people do behave badly. We only have to look at the antics of the EDL and the supporters of Tiny Timmy to see that. At the end of the day if you attend a march or demonstration you must always expect and prepare yourself for the possibility of violence from any quarter.
    I can't relate to your distaste for the EDL's supporters. Are some of them hooligans? Yes, but most are nothing more than frustrated working class people. Just look at photos of them:





    Most of these people aren't hooligans or career criminals. They're just frustrated men who (rightly) feel that they are under assault and that their nation's elite's don't care about them. In other words - their anger and violence is justifiable. They don't need to be mocked or treated with scorn. What they need is for a charismatic leader to recruit ex-military men, firefighters, seasoned nationalists, etc. -> have those more experienced men act as 'squad leaders' -> build a British equivalent of Hitler's S.A.

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    WK, it’s a shame you made such a fuss when I said that liberals cover up for Negroes etc. by saying: “Whites do that as well”. It clearly touched a nerve because this appears to be your tactic too, as you've since gone on to confirm. We’ve all heard this sort of thing thousands of times from SJW’s who are confronted with an ugly truth and I only used rapes as one example.

    If you’re telling me that Muslims and Nigs don’t commit any more of these than Whites then you either have some kind of awareness problem or are being deliberately obtuse, because sex offences in places such as Germany and Sweden have rocketed since they invited in all of Africa’s rabble and even the BBC (that is full of immigrant apologists like yourself) has informed us that 58% of Sweden’s rapes are committed by foreign-born attackers …


    And have you forgotten Cologne 2016, when 1.200 women were molested by Arabs in a single evening; 24 of whom were actually raped? Oh, and how about all the Muslim grooming gangs operating in the UK, with 1.400 (mostly underage) victims in Rochdale alone? I suppose that while the authorities were covering this up for well over a decade, people like yourself were busy denouncing all the ‘conspiracy theorists’ who knew what was going on ... or were you blaming Tommy Robinson again?

    And finally, I’ve just read your stats about prison populations but all this proves to me is that non-Whites are given far more slack when it comes to sexual crimes. Here are just a few examples …


    Please tell me, how many native Whites do you think would have got away with the alibi that they couldn’t understand the word 'NO'?

    I take it you realise that for the 1.200 sex crimes committed in Cologne and the 1.400 in Rochdale (that I mentioned above) barely a dozen Muslims in total were jailed? With these sort of ratios it's quite easy to end up with the sort of skewed statistics you are presenting us with.

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    I can't relate to your distaste for the EDL's supporters. Are some of them hooligans? Yes, but most are nothing more than frustrated working class people. Just look at photos of them:

    Most of these people aren't hooligans or career criminals. They're just frustrated men who (rightly) feel that they are under assault and that their nation's elite's don't care about them. In other words - their anger and violence is justifiable. They don't need to be mocked or treated with scorn. What they need is for a charismatic leader to recruit ex-military men, firefighters, seasoned nationalists, etc. -> have those more experienced men act as 'squad leaders' -> build a British equivalent of Hitler's S.A.
    Jared, it always amuses me how the self-appointed 'intellectuals' want a revolution BUT only if the revolutionaries are all smart and intelligent like themselves. I'm afraid it just doesn't work that way

    It's a bit like some snooty woman being raped by migrants and telling her rough-looking skinhead rescuers to go away because she wants to be saved by some classier men with good qualifications and well-paid jobs.

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    I can't relate to your distaste for the EDL's supporters. Are some of them hooligans? Yes, but most are nothing more than frustrated working class people. Just look at photos of them:
    Very few normal people associate with the EDL. They are rightly recognised as an extremist organisation and a very small one at that. Indeed it is a spent force. You will find that the same knuckle draggers who associated with the EDL also circulated around other organisations like the BNP and many are or were involved in football hooliganism. The EDL also had more than its fair share of paedophiles and sex offenders-something which 'Robinson' did not apply his 'journalistic' attentions to, being concerned only about Islam. No respectable and intelligent person would publicly associate themselves with such outfits. Now that does not mean to say that every single person who participates in a demonstration is a beer swilling violent knuckle dragger because many people are easily misled and manipulated. If you wish to see the true nature of the EDL you must judge it according to the moral calibre of the people who have founded and led it. The person who is known under the false name of 'Tommy Robinson' is a violent convicted criminal and a quick google search on his publicly known convictions will give you an idea of what behaviours this man is capable of. It is also ironic that someone who is not ethnically English but a second generation immigrant with 5 or 6 aliases should found an 'English' Defence League, an organisation that allied itself with Zionism and the State of Israel and promoted the multiracial society.

    Most of these people aren't hooligans or career criminals. They're just frustrated men who (rightly) feel that they are under assault and that their nation's elite's don't care about them. In other words - their anger and violence is justifiable.
    Not all but many ARE convicted criminals just as is their founder who has a long criminal record and is/was a violent football hooligan. Why would any self-respecting and respectable person wish to associate themselves with people like that?

    I see and how does spitting in the face of a 4 year old Muslim child by a moron chanting the name of 'Tommy Robinson' count as 'justifiable'? Many of these people would have ended up in concentration camps in Hitler's Germany-and rightly so.

    They don't need to be mocked or treated with scorn. What they need is for a charismatic leader to recruit ex-military men, firefighters, seasoned nationalists, etc. -> have those more experienced men act as 'squad leaders' -> build a British equivalent of Hitler's S.A.
    The building of a paramilitary force is illegal under English law and would attract a lengthy prison sentence. Beer swilling knuckle draggers roaming the streets looking for a fight will not advance our cause one iota but feeds straight into enemy propaganda. Third Reich costume fetishes and larping may be popular in the USA but would be a dead duck in a country which suffered greatly in WWII. I will continue to 'mock' and 'scorn' semi-literate knuckle draggers of any political persuasion.

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    WK, it’s a shame you made such a fuss when I said that liberals cover up for Negroes etc. by saying: “Whites do that as well”. It clearly touched a nerve because this appears to be your tactic too, as you've since gone on to confirm. We’ve all heard this sort of thing thousands of times from SJW’s who are confronted with an ugly truth and I only used rapes as one example.
    If you care to study my posts I have confirmed that negroes are more susceptible as a race to the committing of crime. This may be due to the lack of development of the cerebral cortex or environmental/cultural factors or a combination of both. The crime statistics of England and Wales and the USA confirm this but one should not use this as an opportunity to whitewash English people. Proportionately they commit the same number of sexual offences, rapes and paedophilia as any other race. All you are succeeding in doing is feeding into anti-Muslim hysteria and paranoia whilst you ignore the real problem which is Zionism and the hegemony of the Tel Aviv-Washington axis. You need to focus on the cause of the disease if you wish to cure it, not the symptoms. Continually harping on about black on white crime does nothing but promote a 'victim complex', the sort of thing which Black Lives Matter do. Why are you promoting these tactics?

    If you’re telling me that Muslims and Nigs don’t commit any more of these than Whites then you either have some kind of awareness problem or are being deliberately obtuse,
    See my above comments and address what I have WRITTEN, not what you think that I have written!

    because sex offences in places such as Germany and Sweden have rocketed since they invited in all of Africa’s rabble and even the BBC (that is full of immigrant apologists like yourself) has informed us that 58% of Sweden’s rapes are committed by foreign-born attackers …
    I am only interested in England. I do not live in Sweden or Germany-it is not my problem. I am only prepared to discuss England-and I stress England, not the United Kingdom.

    And have you forgotten Cologne 2016, when 1.200 women were molested by Arabs in a single evening; 24 of whom were actually raped? Oh, and how about all the Muslim grooming gangs operating in the UK, with 1.400 (mostly underage) victims in Rochdale alone?
    You are beginning to sound like a broken record. Do you have nothing new to say?

    I suppose that while the authorities were covering this up for well over a decade, people like yourself were busy denouncing all the ‘conspiracy theorists’ who knew what was going on ... or were you blaming Tommy Robinson again?
    Please do not give 'Tommy Robinson' the credit for that. Griffin highlighted that when 'Robinson' was a twinkling in his Irish father's ball sack.

    And finally, I’ve just read your stats about prison populations but all this proves to me is that non-Whites are given far more slack when it comes to sexual crimes. Here are just a few examples …
    I am not condoning rape and I don't want immigrants in England but the affairs of other countries in this regard are down to the people who live there. My focus has always been England. However I will say that each time you play the 'victim' card and cite an example I can provide you with 10 committed by native English people. There is no point going on about this. Try and focus on other issues and don't be obsessed with being a victim all the time. It is demeaning man.

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    I am only interested in England. I do not live in Sweden or Germany-it is not my problem. I am only prepared to discuss England-and I stress England, not the United Kingdom. […] My focus has always been England
    This is patently untrue as you are on a pan-Germanic forum and have become involved in the business of a number of other countries. Indeed, before your wild digressions about Tommy Robinson, the EDL & Catholic paedophiles this thread was initially part of the ‘Paris is burning’ one (..that’s France, right?)

    Actually, I would even question how fond you are of England because you never seem to have much favourable to say about its inhabitants. In just a brief check I’ve counted over 30 references you've made to knuckle-draggers, thugs and CHAVS that most genuine patriots would not keep making on such a repetitive basis.

    Anyway, I somehow thought you’d exonerate Muslim rapists by quibbling over the exact location of their crimes. This is just a stalling tactic because you know full well that the same pattern is repeating everywhere across ‘multicultural’ Europe, but I will indulge you on this one last occasion (before I stop feeding the troll) by giving some domestic examples; starting with this report by a Muslim organisation …


    A new report by Quilliam International has found an alarming level of over-representation of (South) Asian men in group-based child sexual exploitation crimes, otherwise known as ‘grooming gangs’.The report found that 84% of ‘grooming gang’ offenders were (South) Asian, while they only make up 7% of total UK population and that the majority of these offenders are of Pakistani origin with Muslim heritage.
    "From the horse’s mouth", so to speak!

    I will say that each time you play the 'victim' card and cite an example I can provide you with 10 committed by native English people.
    So you’re offering to show me 10 cases of White native sex offenders for each non-White one, are you? Okay, you seem to have a lot of spare time on your hands so I’ll take you up on that, beginning with these individuals from Newcastle ...


    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...gs-case-review

    Note how the police & local authorities were so keen to hush this up ^ to appease the Muslim community that they actually blamed the female victims!!!

    This next group of 20 is from Rochdale ...



    Huddersfield ...



    Telford ...



    Rotherham ...



    I could continue, but by my reckoning that’s over 500 cases of White offenders you need to provide already so I'll stop there for the moment

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    This is patently untrue as you are on a pan-Germanic forum and have become involved in the business of a number of other countries. Indeed, before your wild digressions about Tommy Robinson, the EDL & Catholic paedophiles this thread was initially part of the ‘Paris is burning’ one (..that’s France, right?)
    The Paris is Burning thread was nothing to do with paedophilia initially: it digressed from there. I have never discussed the issue of sex attacks in Germany, Sweden or anywhere else. When commenting on this I have used England as my frame of reference. The other issue which I have focused on is the way in which nationalists fall hook, line and sinker for the Zionist ploy of seeing Islam as the enemy instead of the Zionist puppet masters. When discussing this issue I will take a global approach as Zionism is a global infection. By contrast I do not recall you ever exposing Zionism, only Islam and sex crimes. Not only that but you never comment on 'Robinson'. Why is that? Do you support him? How about Ezra Levant, do you support him too?

    Actually, I would even question how fond you are of England because you never seem to have much favourable to say about its inhabitants. In just a brief check I’ve counted over 30 references you've made to knuckle-draggers, thugs and CHAVS that most genuine patriots would not keep making on such a repetitive basis.
    I am 3/8 English so why would I be 'anti-English'? I just think that there has been a serflike quality which has been deliberately bred into the English after the Norman Conquest (for obvious reasons) and this manifests itself in worship of the monarchy (an institution which oppressed the people before its powers were curtailed by Parliament), worship of the military (which has been deliberately intensified by the State to counter the negative exposure of the wars against 'terror' initiated by arch Conservative Tony BLiar), excessive deference to 'authority' and a 'laddish' culture amongst the lower orders. A little bit of selective breeding will hopefully correct these defects in the future. But yes I have nothing positive to say about the English or 'British' 'Nationalism' scene because for decades it has attracted the very dregs of society. Strangely this phenomena is limited to England as nationalists in continental Europe tend to be better educated. The average English nationalist is far from the ideal of the Aryan 'superman' and many of the beer swilling t shirt wearing, pot bellied, shaven headed thugs that roam the streets chanting the name of a convicted Irish football hooligan would have ended up in a concentration camp if this were Hitler's Germany (and rightly so). They are a disgrace. How does spitting in a child's face advance our cause?

    Anyway, I somehow thought you’d exonerate Muslim rapists by quibbling over the exact location of their crimes. This is just a stalling tactic because you know full well that the same pattern is repeating everywhere across ‘multicultural’ Europe, but I will indulge you on this one last occasion (before I stop feeding the troll)
    A man who has no argument or is unable to counter an intelligently put opposing view will always I find on 'debate' forums stoop to the level of calling his opponent a 'troll'. It is so easy, just like calling inconvenient facts 'fake news'. It demonstrates that you are unable to support any of your convictions. If you cannot cope with testing questions from someone who is in reality basically on your side then how would you cope with debating with a true enemy? Or are you only comfortable with 'debating' with people who agree with everything you say? In fact what exactly do you stand for, 'fascism' as it states in your profile? Do you REALLY think that the freedom loving English people will fall for a discredited Italian political ideology from the 1920s? Do you think that being a supporter of Mosley is going to achieve anything? I will not even look at your latest highly selective examples of crimes because all you are doing is feeding Zionist pro-'Robinson' propaganda-again!

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    Everyone knows who's doing the sexual assaults in Europe. Its kind of obvious when the hordes
    flood into Europe and the rates of sexual assaults go up 900%.

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