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    Dexit after Brexit? Alternative for Germany party threatens EU withdrawal


    Germany’s major rightwing party, the AfD, threatens to push for a so-called ‘Dexit’ if the EU doesn’t restore its members’ national sovereignty and takes no action against “Islamization of Europe” within the next five years.

    “The European Community has evolved into an undemocratic structure that’s been occupied by Europe's political classes and designed by non-transparent, uncontrolled bureaucracies,” Alternative for Germany (AfD) party claims in the latest edition of their election program unveiled ahead of the 2019 European polls.


    Habitually slamming the EU for being too bossy and interfering, the AfD said the bloc is being dominated by “particular interests of certain states and lobby cliques.” Therefore, there’s a need to completely rebuild the alliance by 2024, when the next legislative term of the European Parliament comes to an end.


    If the reforms aren’t implemented or fail to work properly within those five years, “we deem necessary to consider a withdrawal of Germany [from the EU] or an orderly dissolution of the European Union and the establishment of a new European economic and interest community.”


    It remains to be seen how realistic is the proposal to depart from the EU. Germany remains the mainstay and economic hub of Europe, and the prospect of “Dexit” seems too far away now. However, results of the 2016 Brexit vote sent shockwaves all across Europe as proponents of the ‘Leave’ cause attracted an unpredictably large number of supporters and won the plebiscite.


    That aside, the AfD says Germany’s withdrawal from the EU would be the last option. Before it comes into play, the bloc should curb “lobbyism and corruption” as well as cut its apparatus that has grown too big.


    According to the rightwing party, 44,000 officials and 11,000 employees cost over €8 billion ($9.1bn) annually. In the European agencies, the program said, some 4,000 officials earn each 290,000 a year, which is more than the German Chancellor’s salary.

    Apart from lambasting the EU bureaucracy, the AfD devoted a sizeable part of its paper to immigration and perceived Islamization of Europe. Besides common demands to shut EU’s borders to migrant arrivals and introduce a far more stringent refugee policy, the program teaches a sort of theology lesson proclaiming that Islam is "the enemy of Europe.” “Islam does not separate state from religion and is therefore also a political ideology,” it says, suggesting that numerous Koran verses “demand to fight against non-Muslims up to the killing of the other faithful.”


    Anti-immigration agenda is what allowed the AfD to garner popular support since it was established in 2013. The rightwing party has frequently blasted Merkel’s “open door” toward migrants from Muslim-majority countries which saw over 1 million migrants arrive in Germany since 2015.


    Over the last years, the AfD made solid gains at local and national elections, having formed the third-largest faction in Bundestag. In turn, it is no stranger to an array of controversies, including allegations of harboring neo-Nazi and anti-Semitic sentiments.



    Dexit after Brexit? Alternative for Germany party threatens EU withdrawal 04 01 2019.
    Favourite to leave next: Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Danmark, . . .
    There would be no EUssr if each country was allowed a FAIR referendum every decade on membership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagdmesser View Post
    Favourite to leave next: Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Danmark, . . .
    There would be no EUssr if each country was allowed a FAIR referendum every decade on membership.
    There are currently only 3 important members of the EU; the United Kingdom, Germany and France. The EU will survive but be much poorer after the exit of the United Kingdom but if it also loses either Germany or France then it will be finished.

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    Germany is talking about ‘Dexit’


    Finally, Germany is talking about ‘Dexit’




    The AfD has taken its most Eurosceptic line yet. That’s good news for democracy.



    Could the AfD (Alternative für Deutschland) be about to make history? Before the AfD’s party conference had even ended last Sunday, the term ‘Dexit’ – short for a German exit from the EU – was circulating in the press. The reason is the AfD’s programme for September’s elections: ‘We consider a withdrawal of Germany from the European Union and the establishment of a new European Economic and Interest Community necessary’, it says – a demand which has caused more than a little stir.



    This is the furthest the AfD has ever gone in its opposition to the EU. Of course, its programme has other demands, but it is in the Dexit policy that many commentators see proof of an increasing influence of the far-right within the party’s ranks. The AfD is now ‘openly radical’, said
    Der Spiegel. Deutschlandfunk, Germany’s state radio station, reminded its listeners that before the 2019 European elections, AfD delegates had still been willing to follow the leadership’s milder Euroscepticism, only calling for Germany to leave the Euro.


    Pro-EU commentators in Germany have long tried to dismiss any EU scepticism as right-wing extremism – the fact that the AfD is now campaigning for Dexit seems to confirm their point. But most are also anxiously asking themselves how many voters the AfD might win over with its new anti-EU programme. Time and again, the AfD has demonstrated a good sense of the mood in large parts of the population. And even though pundits like to pretend that party delegates were manipulated by the right-wing Björn Höcke (the leader of the notorious Flügel wing of the party), they know this is wrong.



    The real reason the AfD has embraced Dexit, after long debates at the party congress, is simply that delegates believe it can help the party reach more voters. Dexit has given the AfD an important and unique selling point for the upcoming elections.



    The EU is more unpopular in Germany than ever – and it isn’t just the AfD that knows it. There are many reasons: Ursula von der Leyen’s undemocratic appointment as EC president, the unresolved refugee crisis, the coronavirus vaccination disaster, and the way in which the Next Generation EU Recovery Fundis being waved through parliaments, despite its risks and uncertainties (a lawsuit against it is currently pending before the German constitutional court).



    Only the most arrogant or naive Europhile could expect the electorate not to notice any of this. And it would be absurd to believe that no party would try to capitalise on voters’ rising sense of frustration. And since the Left Party (Die Linke) abandoned Euroscepticism several years ago, the field has been left to the AfD.



    So is it good or bad that the AfD is calling for Dexit? Of course it would be good if others, perhaps even some new parties, could develop a serious critique of the EU and offer an alternative to German voters. But it is good that Dexit has at least been brought into the election campaign. The very possibility of a critical debate emerging will put pressure on our already defensive establishment to find better arguments for the EU than ‘it’s a nice idea’ or ‘it’s good for our exports’.



    Of course, only the election itself will show how successful the AfD’s campaign will be – but the party might find that it is pushing against an open door.




    Sabine Beppler-Spahl’s Brexit – Demokratischer Aufbruch in Großbritannien



    Finally, Germany is talking about ‘Dexit’
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    I expect the Germans to do something about their situation long before "us" Americans. Germany has three bureaucracies for a headache: EU, US globalist policies, and their own government. Maybe, I am cynical today.

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    Germany is living in a golden cage. Alluring though it may be, having leverage in Europe only means that there's a lot of dead weight for them to carry. If Dexit happens, France will likely pick a fight. Paris has had Berlin trapped by the EU apparatus since Bonn and won't be happy dealing with a Deutschland freed from of distraction. England learnt the hard way about White Man's Burden being a two-edged sword.

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