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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    Can anyone unravel the logic in this deranged Negro's mind

    I suppose he means that in certain slum areas there are a lot of unwanted pregnancies and if the babies are not aborted they often turn into unwanted criminals and end up in the electric chair. So, win/win or lose/lose or whatever, heh.

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    Ah, okay, so he's seeing things from a purely Negro perspective and wants fewer babies because they'll just grow up to be criminals?

    Yes, that makes sense. I could even go along with this

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    About 1/2 of all the abortions in the US are performed on Negro women. We might have twice as many Negroes if not for Roe vs Wade though I would prefer paying them to undergo voluntary sterilization.

    I wonder if the Democrats realize what abortion-on-demand has done to their voting base?

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    Maybe a bit off topic but in the past I've seen many individuals, mostly Americans, conflate abortion with low birth rates. However, the nation with the world's lowest birth rate is South Korea and abortion has been illegal there for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    About 1/2 of all the abortions in the US are performed on Negro women. We might have twice as many Negroes if not for Roe vs Wade though I would prefer paying them to undergo voluntary sterilization.

    I wonder if the Democrats realize what abortion-on-demand has done to their voting base?
    In Canada, abortions are used at a similarly disproportionate rate by Indians (tribal ones, not East Indians).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dani View Post
    Maybe a bit off topic but in the past I've seen many individuals, mostly Americans, conflate abortion with low birth rates. However, the nation with the world's lowest birth rate is South Korea and abortion has been illegal there for decades.
    Interesting. That goes to show that there are other factors than abortion that cause low birth rates.

    I'm afraid that's not foolproof logic to disprove that abortion equals low birth rates, though. One effect may have multiple causes, in this case either "[t]he status of women [...] worsening job prospects for young people and rising property prices" or abortion. Or both. Or multiple other causes.

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    Alabama Senate Passes Nation’s Strictest Abortion Ban by 25-6 Vote; Bill Heads to Governor’s Desk

    Late Tuesday, the Alabama State Senate passed what would be the nation’s strictest abortion laws should it be signed by Republican Gov. Kay Ivey.

    House Bill 314 passed the Senate by a 25-6 vote, and it does not include exceptions for rape or incest. Earlier in the day, the Senate had rejected an amendment that would have added such exceptions by a 21-11 vote margin.


    Earlier this month, HB 314 was passed by the Alabama House of Representatives by a 74-3 margin, and now awaits the governor’s signature.


    The bill’s proponents argue its strict nature is intended to establish a baby in the womb as a person.
    “We aimed for language that addresses the language of Roe v. Wade,” the bill’s sponsor Rep. Terri Collins (R-Decatur) said at a public event last week. “The decision was based on someone in utero, someone pregnant so we don’t get into conception. We don’t get into birth control. We don’t get into the morning-after pill, but in utero, which is the language they used that when a woman is pregnant. This bill criminalizes abortion through the doctor. And not the woman, but the doctor.

    “The reasoning is the same reasoning, Roe v. Wade was decided that the baby in the womb was not a person,” she continued. “So this bill bases its reasoning that the baby in the womb is a person. And we based it on the fact that in Alabama law, we currently consider the baby in the womb a person. If you were a drunk driver and you killed a pregnant woman, you have a double homicide on your hands. We voted as a state to be a pro-life state.”


    If such exception were added, it would undermine that argument, Collins explained.

    “The biggest thing to attack it with is to say, ‘What, you’re not going to include rape and incest?’” she said. “Well, how do we say, ‘The baby inside is a person unless they’re conceived in rape or incest’?”

    State Sen. Clyde Chambliss (R-Prattville), who headed the State Senate’s effort, said passage demonstrated Alabama’s commitment to the pro-life cause.


    “Life and liberty are not man given; they are given by our Creator,” State Sen. Clyde Chambliss said following the Alabama Senate’s passage. “Today, Alabama made clear that we will protect our rights and the rights of our unborn children.”


    The debate over the bill received national attention during the State House’s deliberations after State Rep. John Rogers (D-Birmingham) made some impolitic remarks regarding the issue of abortion.

    “Some kids are unwanted, so you kill them now, or you kill them later,” Rogers said. “You bring them in the world unwanted, unloved, you send them to the electric chair. So, you kill them now, or you kill them later.”



    Lefties cry and protest over the death penalty for murderers, weep over trees being cut down & chickens being raised in cages. But murdering an unborn baby? Why, that "right" should be celebrated!


    Dear Democrats: This is what happens when you openly promote k-i-l-l-i-n-g babies.



    Alabama Senate Passes Nation’s Strictest Abortion Ban by 25-6 Vote; Bill Heads to Governor’s Desk 15 May 2019.

    Well done Alabama recognizing a child’s basic right to live. Other States will follow.

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    Emily Ratajkowski Poses Nude To Punish ‘Old White Men’ For Alabama Abortion Law

    That'll show 'em!



    Beautiful model Emily Ratajkowski posted a nude photo of herself to social media on Thursday to protest the Alabama Human Life Protection Act, the strictest abortion law in the nation.

    Oddly enough, Ratajkowski was specifically targeting the "25 old white men" who voted for the ban with her nude post.

    The Alabama Human Life Protection Act was signed into law on Wednesday by Governor Kay Ivey (R-AL), a woman. The law totally outlaws abortion, save an exemption for the life of the mother, and targets third-party abortionists with life in prison for carrying out illegal abortions.

    "This week, 25 old white men voted to ban abortion in Alabama even in cases of incest and rape," she captioned a photo of herself. "These men in power are imposing their wills onto the bodies of women in order to uphold the patriarchy and perpetuate the industrial prison complex by preventing women of low economic opportunity the right to choose to not reproduce."

    "The states trying to ban abortion are the states that have the highest proportions of black women living there," noted Ratajkowski, unintentionally highlighting that black babies stand to gain the most from the pro-life legislation. "This is about class and race and is a direct attack on the fundamental human rights women in the US deserve and are protected by under Roe vs. Wade."

    "Our bodies, our choice," added the model.

    Ratajkowski is completely nude in the photo, though she has a flower petal strategically placed between her legs, covering up her crotch.

    Ratajkowski was a vocal critic of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, standing among other Hollywood feminists to protest during the judge’s confirmation hearing. Ratajkowski and comedian Amy Schumer were "arrested" during an October protest.

    "Capitol Police said they arrested 302 people during the demonstrations. Video from the scene shows the two actresses being detained after an officer asks if they want to be arrested," reported CNN at the time.

    "Today I was arrested protesting the Supreme Court nomination of Brett Kavanaugh, a man who has been accused by multiple women of sexual assault," the model posted in a tweet after the "arrest."

    "Men who hurt women can no longer be placed in positions of power," she added.

    On Wednesday, CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin claimed the Alabama Human Life Protection Act will essentially kill Roe v. Wade.

    "Roe v. Wade is gone and every woman in Alabama who gets pregnant is gonna be forced to give birth soon," Toobin said during a CNN appearance. "And that’s gonna be true in Alabama, it’s gonna be true in Missouri, it’s gonna be true, probably, in Georgia. And that’s what the law is because that's what the presidential election was about, in part, last time."

    "This is what this fight has been about, for years," he continued. "I think the legislators were very smart, they waited until they got five votes on the Supreme Court and now they’re gonna push this thing through. And Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch are gonna be joined by Chief Justice Roberts and Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, and this is a victory that Rick (Santorum) and others have been fighting for decades and they’ve won and they should celebrate."

    Source: DailyWire
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    Louisiana lawmakers pass controversial 'heartbeat' abortion ban


    LOUSIANA LAWMAKERS HAVE passed a bill banning abortions once a foetal heartbeat is detected, joining a string of other US states restricting the termination of pregnancies as early as six weeks.


    The bans are expected to be blocked in lower courts, but supporters plan to appeal such decisions until they reach the Supreme Court. They hope this will lead to the long-sought conservative goal of overturning the landmark 1973 ruling known as Roe v Wade, which recognised women’s right to abortion.

    The measure – which includes exceptions for cases in which a woman’s life is at risk or the foetus has a fatal condition – passed the Louisiana House of Representatives with a vote of 79-23 after being approved in the Senate by 31-5, according to the legislature’s website.

    It now goes to the desk of the governor John Edwards, who said he plans to endorse it. “As I prepare to sign this bill, I call on the overwhelming bipartisan majority of legislators who voted for it to join me in continuing to build a better Louisiana that cares for the least among us and provides more opportunity for everyone,” the governor said in a statement posted on Twitter.



    These ‘heartbeat bills’ ban an abortion once a heartbeat is detected in a foetus. The heartbeat can begin in what is known as the ‘foetal pole’ as early as six weeks into the pregnancy. As pregnancies are dated from the first day of the pregnant person’s last period, being six weeks pregnant means around two weeks after a missed period. This could mean the person may not realise they are pregnant, as they are not very far along in the pregnancy. Those opposed to the bill say this does not give pregnant women enough time to choose whether they want an abortion and access it before a heartbeat can be detected.


    ‘Lives at risk’

    Planned Parenthood, which offers abortion services, said Louisiana “is part of an alarming and widely-opposed national trend of bans criminalizing abortion before many women even know they’re pregnant, threatening women with investigation, and promising to throw doctors in prison for doing their jobs.” “Banning abortion will not stop abortion – but it will end access to safe, legal abortion care,” said Leana Wen, the president of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund. “These politicians in 2019 are deliberately putting women’s lives at risk. This is not about medicine or science, but power over women’s bodies.”

    Several other conservative southern US states have passed similar measures in recent weeks, including Alabama, whose anti-abortion law is the strictest in the country. It amounts to a near-total ban on ending a pregnancy, even in cases of rape and incest. Performing an abortion would be a crime that could land doctors in prison for ten to 99 years. Like the Louisiana measure, the Alabama bill includes exceptions if the life of the mother is in danger or the foetus has a fatal condition.

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    Protests

    The new abortion restrictions sparked widespread protests by activists last week, with demonstrators turning out in cities including Washington, New York, Los Angeles and Atlanta, Georgia. Conservatives are ultimately counting on support at the highest court in the land.

    Since taking office, President Donald Trump has appointed two conservative justices – Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh – leaving liberal members of the court outnumbered five to four. Conservative-leaning Chief Justice John Roberts is seen as the potential swing vote if the constitutionality of abortion eventually comes before the court.

    Around two thirds of Americans say abortion should be legal, a Pew Center poll found last year.


    Louisiana lawmakers pass controversial 'heartbeat' abortion ban30 May 2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    About 1/2 of all the abortions in the US are performed on Negro women. We might have twice as many Negroes if not for Roe vs Wade though I would prefer paying them to undergo voluntary sterilization.

    I wonder if the Democrats realize what abortion-on-demand has done to their voting base?
    Indeed.

    And while I can only speculate on the likelihood that Liberal and Conservative women respectively would have an abortion, I would say that when the enemy is committing a mistake you should not stop them.

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