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    If the government puts soldiers on the streets in a hard Brexit, we must refuse to obey them

    An excellent article that asks the hitherto unasked question what would be the purpose of the deployment of 3,500 troops on the streets of the United Kingdom in the event of a no deal 'BREXIT'?


    https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/sym...e-to-obey-them


    The UK defence secretary has said the army is on stand by in case of a no deal Brexit. But the armed forces have no business on the streets of Britain.


    Just when you thought that Brexit couldn’t get any more chaotic, up popped Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson to assure that he has things under control. He told the Commons that he has 3,500 troops on stand-by to deal with “contingencies” in the event of a no-deal Brexit. Williamson’s comments were welcomed by the sort of people who think that the ultimate solution to any problem is to send in people with guns.Gavin Williamson was in the Commons to set out the latest stage of the euphemistically named “Modernising Defence” review, which consists largely of clinging to a militaristic model of security while demanding more money for the armed forces and the arms industry.But then he was asked a question by Will Quince, the Tory MP for Colchester. Could the armed forces help out in the event of a no-deal Brexit? Williamson said, “What we are doing is putting contingency plans in place, and what we will do is have 3,500 service personnel held at readiness, including regulars and reserves, in order to support any government department on any contingencies they may need.”

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    If the Monarchy (Demorats) puts troops on the streets of Londanistan, and elsewhere in your socialist, mud infested 'paradise', what are the 'subjects' (not citizens) going to do about it, throw rocks and bottles at armed and armored soldiers?

    You have no modern firearms Krieger... So you and your commie pals are up shit creek if they do... And none of you arrogant prigs will ever get one ounce of sympathy from this armed and armored American citizen.
    Aside from an ever increasing number of mortals who have willfully chosen to worship Satan and his minions, our battle has always been against the powers and principalities operating surreptitiously throughout this twisted world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth Lee Hunter View Post
    If the Monarchy (Demorats) puts troops on the streets of Londanistan, and elsewhere in your socialist, mud infested 'paradise', what are the 'subjects' (not citizens) going to do about it, throw rocks and bottles at armed and armored soldiers?
    You have no modern firearms Krieger... So you and your commie pals are up shit creek if they do... And none of you arrogant prigs will ever get one ounce of sympathy from this armed and armored American citizen.
    Gareth, the monarch is only a figure head, a toothless hag. Any power is vested in the government and devolved to its executive agencies-government departments. All we are raising at this stage is the question of what would these troops be used for? Possibly and indeed probably a benign purpose. Soldiers have no legal authority. The only way that would happen is in the circumstances where martial law is declared. Come 29th March nothing will change Gareth-no riots, no civil disturbances. The whole thing is scaremongering. 'BREXIT' is a non-issue: people are bored with it.

    You know Gareth change does not have to come via mindless violence. Look at the fall of the 'Berlin Wall'-no violence at all, just peaceful protest. We must never allow our political beliefs to be an excuse for the exercise of cruelty towards our fellow man. This is why I do not approve of the mindless violence being used by the mob in France. The French are southern Europeans-that is how they behave. They are not like you or I Gareth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Rentz View Post
    The Subjects will just have to bend over and kiss their arses. They have no means to resist.
    I am going to award you 10/10 for using 'arses' rather than 'asses'! We don't know yet what the exact purpose of the troops is. They have no legal authority domestically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuotans Krieger View Post
    Gareth, the monarch is only a figure head, a toothless hag. Any power is vested in the government and devolved to its executive agencies-government departments.
    Theresa May: royal family
    Boris Johnson: royal family
    David Cameron: royal family
    all the Lords in House: royal family, directly or indirectly

    Govt departments....
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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    Theresa May: royal family
    Boris Johnson: royal family
    David Cameron: royal family
    all the Lords in House: royal family, directly or indirectly

    Govt departments....
    'Velvet' the House of Lords is a second chamber with very little power. It can delay the process of government bills but it cannot prevent them from being passed. I personally believe that it is high time that the House of Lords were abolished and replaced with an elected second chamber and it is only a matter of time before this happens. You clearly have very little knowledge of the British constitution or you would have realised that the monarch can only rubber stamp Acts, not prevent their passing. She is a 'Quality Street' (tin of chocolates-google it) monarch, nothing more. Theresa May has nothing to do with the Royal Family and neither does Boris Johnson who is not even in the government (do keep up!). No one in the House of Lords has anything to do with the Royal Family.

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    There will be some numbers of personnel in "standby" anytime in any army .
    For example , the air force and navy will be on standby for Russian airplanes and ships .

    3'500 sounds not much -- fake news ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe Jens Lornsen View Post
    There will be some numbers of personnel in "standby" anytime in any army .
    For example , the air force and navy will be on standby for Russian airplanes and ships .

    3'500 sounds not much -- fake news ...
    No, it isn't 'fake news'. It has come from the Secretary of State for Defence. Yes, 3,500 does not seem a lot. If they are waiting for 'Russian planes and ships' then they will be waiting a long time. The so-called 'Russian threat' is fake news.

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