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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterland View Post
    I think it's quite difficult to fake the long SIMS and training of 100 plus NASA engineers for each mission
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    https://www.aulis.com/record.htm

    Apollo Flight Director Gene Kranz recounts these simulations on page 234 of his book, Failure is not an Option (Fig. 17):

    In the late 1960s our simulation technology had progressed to the point where it became virtually impossible to separate the training from actual missions. The simulations became full dress rehearsals for the missions down to the smallest detail. The simulation tested out the crew’s and controller’s responses to normal and emergency conditions. It checked out the exact flight plan, mission rules, and procedures that the crew and controllers would use for a later flight.

    The beginning section of this statement by Kranz appeared verbatim in an interview that he gave for the 2003 History Channel documentary of the same name:

    KRANZ: The simulations were so real that no controller could discern the difference between the training and the real mission.
    Also, as a precedent of secrecy:

    Manhattan Project - Wikipedia

    A 1945 Life article estimated that before the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings "probably no more than a few dozen men in the entire country knew the full meaning of the Manhattan Project, and perhaps only a thousand others even were aware that work on atoms was involved." The magazine wrote that the more than 100,000 others employed with the project "worked like moles in the dark". Warned that disclosing the project's secrets was punishable by 10 years in prison or a fine of US$10,000 (equivalent to $144,000 in 2020), they saw enormous quantities of raw materials enter factories with nothing coming out, and monitored "dials and switches while behind thick concrete walls mysterious reactions took place" without knowing the purpose of their jobs.[246][247][248][249][250]
    Quote Originally Posted by Winterland View Post
    along with test pilots, at Mission Control and to replicate their emotional states when they landed on the moon. NASA did recruit the brightest engineers, mostly Germanics, across the country when they built the space program, so it can be equally insulting to say that they falsified the historical Apollo landings. Most Apollos never landed and only orbited. Von Braun also helped with rocketry, and there was Arthur Rudolph's Saturn V rocket design. Of course, Jews ranted over the granting of US citizenship to the father of Apollo rocketry. The questioning of the Apollo landings could equally well be by Jewish groups and/or Russians to discredit the entire program. Saturn V was probably the most successful rocket ever designed even over the space shuttle. NASA did not fake the explosions as well on launch pad or mid air disasters but showed air-flight failures.

    Yes, I think we really had the technologies to travel to the moon and land safely as it seemed pointless to support a large hoax and silencing so many former employees. Maybe, some of the photo releases were declassified photo ops (?) for general public viewing to prevent theft of technological information, if they're fakes. Currently, I don't think NASA could really re-create their brilliant past engineer employees due to a slow intellectual decline from universities and differing hiring practices. To state, we had different men back then.
    It is an amazing feat they can achieve low earth orbit (LEO) and send craft beyond LEO (regardless of whether humans have ever gone beyond LEO).

    Check out American Moon sometime:



    American Moon (2017) - IMDb


    This documentary examines the authenticity of the photographic record of NASA's Apollo missions.
    You can find the free versions online. I would link one, but I just worry about it disappearing if it becomes too popular; I think it's 5 bucks otherwise.

    Edit: I think the film producer is fine with people being able to watch it for free off youtube (until youtube deletes it ):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuKu3F0BvY
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    I believe the 6 moon landings happened since you can see current aeronautical and computer advancements today. If you ever toured NASA Mission Control room during the mid 70's, they had massive Mainframe computers behind the control center. Also, some missions weren't successful like Apollo 13 that never landed. Why did we drop Saturn V model? "Another reason we're not reusing the Saturn V is the same reason it was cancelled in the first place: cost." During the 80's, US planned to make it to Mars before our decline. Many missions were delayed and sabotaged starting with the Carter administration because of costs, the Skylab program for example. Welfare became more important and mini wars over space exploration. Many average citizens complained about "wasted monies" and did not see the importance of it. At one time, no one, including historians, believed that the Vikings sailed to the New World in an open longboat either until they discovered artifacts!

    Our elite do not back our educated white men and/or managerial class. Over the last 40 years, our current Democrats and Black population never supported space exploration and prefer to harp on the racial injustices of the past. What really bothers me is the decline of the intellectual man. US once pooled their genius men to compete with the Russians and rising Asian economies. We once had leading STEM education centers too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterland View Post
    I believe the 6 moon landings happened since you can see current aeronautical and computer advancements today.
    We've certainly advanced in terms of computers and aeronautics since the end of Apollo; however, this raises the question of how it was possible to go then, but not in the subsequent five decades by any nation (technological advancement tends to make things easier).

    The skeptic thesis is that they just stayed in low earth orbit, and the rest was staged.

    They cite footage like this as evidence:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrO7eHKNTUU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpPMoIv1lxI

    I'm not saying it demonstrates the moon landing was a hoax, but there's a lot of other stuff: https://www.aulis.com/moon_pt1.htm https://www.kilibro.com/books/0932813909/dark-moon

    'Since' Apollo, no ships with humans onboard have gone through the radiation belt.

    Unbeknownst to most American citizens, at about 1000 miles above the surface of the Earth, which is 750 miles above where the international space station presently orbits at just 250 miles, lay bands of lethal radiation, nearly 30,000 miles thick, called the “Van Allen Radiation Belts”, humbly named after their founder, Dr. James Van Allen, who discovered the radiation belts in 1958 by putting a Geiger counter (radiation meter) on an unmanned probe launched toward this region of space. The radiation belts are a collection of intense radioactive particles, mostly from the sun, which have collected around the Earth ever since its creation, and are permanently held there in place by the Earth’s magnetic field. The only time humans have ever claimed to have gone through this dangerous radiation field is during the “honorable” Nixon administration from 1969 to 1972, a course of travel necessary to reach the moon and return. All other manned space flights, of all time, except for the “Apollo” missions, were well below this dangerous radiation, in low Earth orbit, the very place where the space station presently safely resides.

    Twenty-five years later, in 1997, when the space shuttle flew to its highest altitude ever, 380 miles, the record-breaking shuttle crew made an alarming discovery when their safety instruments notified them of the approaching radiation danger, though it was still 620 miles away. So severe was the radiation, even at more than 600 miles distance, that NASA never sent the shuttle to this hazardous altitude ever again. Because of this encounter, CNN reported at the time . . .

    “The radiation belts surrounding Earth are MORE DANGEROUS THAN PREVIOUSLY BELIEVED.” (“Previously believed” being the knowledge gathered by the “Apollo” moon missions, the only ones ever to have claimed to have successfully traveled through the radiation belts.)

    I believe the skeptics suggest people could pass through (only takes 2-3 hours) but it would likely make them sick (without a 6 foot shield of water or lead apparently). If they stayed in it for a couple days, without shielding, they'd die.

    Here's one the revisionists pointing out the issue and how to overcome it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJGW6kTd0zI

    This Alan Bean (astronaut) interview was 'interesting' at 10 minutes in about the belts:

    https://youtu.be/kg21P4VP9lk?t=568

    Quote Originally Posted by Winterland View Post
    If you ever toured NASA Mission Control room during the mid 70's, they had massive Mainframe computers behind the control center. Also, some missions weren't successful like Apollo 13 that never landed. Why did we drop Saturn V model? "Another reason we're not reusing the Saturn V is the same reason it was cancelled in the first place: cost." During the 80's, US planned to make it to Mars before our decline. Many missions were delayed and sabotaged starting with the Carter administration because of costs, the Skylab program for example. Welfare became more important and mini wars over space exploration. Many average citizens complained about "wasted monies" and did not see the importance of it. At one time, no one, including historians, believed that the Vikings sailed to the New World in an open longboat either until they discovered artifacts!
    Our elite do not back our educated white men and/or managerial class. Over the last 40 years, our current Democrats and Black population never supported space exploration and prefer to harp on the racial injustices of the past. What really bothers me is the decline of the intellectual man. US once pooled their genius men to compete with the Russians and rising Asian economies. We once had leading STEM education centers too.

    Yes it could just be cost that explains the delay. There have been 10 declared return dates, the most recent (2024), delayed again mainly due to space suit challenges. And yes I agree with you - not enough support for White minds, but, it always boils down to Whities like us actually giving the challenge of learning things like computer science and engineering everything we have. I don't know what the owners of this website do for a living, but perhaps it's computer programming, and that's what's paying to keep this place afloat (very grateful).


    We need a reservation system for our people and our own ethnic-nationalist faith, where we'll have sermons about our people and nations, real history, science, philosophy, etc., in addition to our older religions. Throw in some open bar nights, comedy club hours, music and dance, etc., and it'll be a cracker barrel of good times lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterland View Post
    I believe the 6 moon landings happened since you can see current aeronautical and computer advancements today. If you ever toured NASA Mission Control room during the mid 70's, they had massive Mainframe computers behind the control center. Also, some missions weren't successful like Apollo 13 that never landed. Why did we drop Saturn V model? "Another reason we're not reusing the Saturn V is the same reason it was cancelled in the first place: cost." During the 80's, US planned to make it to Mars before our decline. Many missions were delayed and sabotaged starting with the Carter administration because of costs, the Skylab program for example. Welfare became more important and mini wars over space exploration. Many average citizens complained about "wasted monies" and did not see the importance of it. At one time, no one, including historians, believed that the Vikings sailed to the New World in an open longboat either until they discovered artifacts!

    Our elite do not back our educated white men and/or managerial class. Over the last 40 years, our current Democrats and Black population never supported space exploration and prefer to harp on the racial injustices of the past. What really bothers me is the decline of the intellectual man. US once pooled their genius men to compete with the Russians and rising Asian economies. We once had leading STEM education centers too.
    What do you think is driving this thread, but elitist anti-intellectualism?

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