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    After having worked 37 years in the aerospace industry I'm convinced we landed on the moon. Some films may have been doctored up due to occasional blemishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    Interesting, GA, but this has to be one of the more outlandish claims I've heard.

    Having achieved such a remarkable feat as a moon landing, why would NASA then produce a fake film instead of showing actual footage from the moon itself
    Keep the population ignorant, and life goes on. Show what's really going on, and everything changes forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LillyCaterina View Post
    Look. We all know the moon is made out of green cheese. If man did go there, why didn't they bring a chunk of it back with them as definitive proof they were actually there.

    Seriously, I doubt man ever set foot on the moon. But that's just my opinion.
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    That was part of he plan .... but the giant space mice which live there attacked and drove the astronauts off the Moon .

    Of course NASA had to cover all this up with fake footage by Kubrick done on film sets.

    The public can't be allowed to know that giant space mice live on the Moon .... they just can't handle the truth!

    It all makes sense!

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    I don't know what is true anymore LOL.

    However, I have seen some interesting info suggesting that alien beings already had a presence on the Moon (far side) and there craft were in view while the astronauts were there.

    The idea is that some faked footage may be possible to show people so humanity would not see any of the alleged truth of alien beings already being there (beings from some other star system that have set up a base on the far side)...

    former Canadian Minister of National Defense, Paul Hellyer has talked about these ideas (extraterrestrial space craft, and base on Moon, etc)




    He talks about a cabal of finance, military, intelligence, oil and other big business and the Bilderburgers but at the end his world view of World War II is still the status quo - maybe he hasn't questioned that.

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    In the end, we have to choose which to believe, if we even want to believe any. This is true of any thing that you have no first hand knowledge about. You believe it to be true, not because of irrefutable scientific data, but because someone said it happened. And for the moon landing, from day one, the US government (NASA) says we put people on the moon, and every day since then they say the same thing. Most people will choose to believe this because there is some underlying trust in the government, or that government would never lie about this type of thing, or that government never lies about anything (except this or that other thing)... Even at the beginning, the doubt can exist and as time goes on the possibility of a thing being a lie puts greater weight onto a person.

    Topics like these are strange in that they end up having a lot of different stories attached to them, and usually with no crossover. With the moon landing there are these different stories that have no connection:
    1. Official story: NASA put people on the Moon. They collected some rocks, drove around in a buggy, took some photos, hit a golf ball, came back. Apollo 17 is the last mission.
    2. Official story + missions past 17. Backed up by "eyes only" documentation (by their nature, not verifyable by the public), audio and video.
    3. Official story, but astronauts saw flying objects and intelligent behaving flying objects
    4. Official story, but found abandoned cities/buildings
    5. Theories that official story was a theatrical production, based solely on Official story with no add-ons.
    6. Certainly more versions exist

    NASA does not help the situation any. They have said some dumb things that have been the driving force behind the mere thought that something was wrong about the official story.
    - NASA saying that they can't go back to the moon because they didn't save any documentation or designs or hardware that was used for the missions. We know that some of this is reliable, that data tapes were reused, thrown out or destroyed. We know this because former NASA staff have held on to some of it. Some have released small bits online (one of these former aerospace industry/NASA employee file dumps was where the data in #2 above came from) and sometimes you will hear a story about how a bunch of stuff was found in an estate sale or an abandoned fast food restaurant.
    - NASA saying that they can't go back to the moon due to the Van Allen Belts. This is a scenario where we are told they exist, and we have information regarding them (a person cannot live longer than 2 minutes inside while unshielded). We can choose to believe this is a real reason. If we do, and then it can only be that A) they are not as bad as scientists say (or do not exist) and NASA is using it as an excuse, B) they didn't exist until after Apollo 17 or C) They exist, are as bad as they say, always existed and therefore we couldn't have sent people through there.

    And the other thing is that more scientific information is available to the public than ever before. The internet has allowed both the information about the Apollo missions, as well as scientific theories and textbooks to be made available throughout the world. People who want to do the math or compare the evidence can come to better conclusions. Certainly, there are a lot of people that jump on a story (because they have a belief at stake) and put out junk, and the "sheepdogs" (to reference another thread) of society (those who protect the sheep and those who protect the wolf) are busy at work trying to use any trick in the book to keep the narrative straight.

    But in the end, you have to choose whether or not you believe the story that The State has shown to you.

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    Well, the problem is which conspiracy theory to run with: the one where we never went to the moon and it was all faked, or the one where we went to the moon and found evidence of an extraterrestrial presence (I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens) and covered it up.

    The thing is, sooner or later the Russians or the Chinese are going to put men on the moon as well- when that happens, one or both of those stories is going to be confirmed or blown out of the water.

    As for those claims that 'we don't have the technology any more' that's baloney- we (finally) have a working Apollo guidance computer!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh_gP5aF3ys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodulf View Post
    I look at this the same as the flat Earth idiocy...it's a "discredit-by-association" attempt. A Flat-Earthers/moon-hoax YouTube channel will also champion actual intelligent inquiries into establishment narratives, thus transferring the idiocy onto a legitimate issue. Yes, there are "psyops" being ran by our would-be masters...

    This pretty much sums up this lunacy. Owen Benjamin is one of the main culprits right now. Why would the moon landings be fake? Why? Who would falsely make a bunch of clean-cut Germanic Christian men into heroes like this? And who would credit a group of "Nazi" German scientists who had worked on the V2 as developing the vehicle to make it happen? No, the landings were REAL, the Earth is ROUND, and the Jews are still evil incarnate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post

    This pretty much sums up this lunacy. Owen Benjamin is one of the main culprits right now.
    And of course you had the movie Capricon One, directed by someone with a maternal grandfather from Russia and a stepfather who was strongly suspected of having communist sympathies. Then of course is the new conspiracy theory being pushed, namely that the Moonlandings where not possible without the work of a certain black woman, who in reality was only a relativly small part of the team. And from what I read was at the time completely ignored by the blacks in the USA at the time, including apparently Nichelle Nichols of TOS-fame. And of course you would think that if she really was that critical NASA would have put her more to the foreground when they came under assault in the 70's because they where not diverse enough.
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    I don't see this as a choice between different conspiracy theories.

    Personally, I just want to know whether we landed on the moon or not and for me the evidence points towards 'NO'.

    Stuff about alien sightings, flying objects, abandoned cities etc.. are just attempts to explain why we never went back and they all support the claim that we went there in the first place.

    They’re just dreamt up by moon landing proponents as subtle forms of confirmation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    Stuff about alien sightings, flying objects, abandoned cities etc.. are just attempts to explain why we never went back and they all support the claim that we went there in the first place.
    Yeah, because it has nothing to do with budgets being slashed. And affirmative action programs being pushed, that moved the focus away from space exploration and eventual colonisation of other celestial bodies towards making minorities feel good about themselves.

    And the sabotaging of NASA did not stop in the 70's, the planned development for the replacement of the space shuttle started under W. Bush was scrapped by Obama, instead he found it important that NASA focuses on making Muslims feel good. So now America needs the help of Russia to sends it astronauts in to space.
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