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    A Question for Continental Europeans

    This question is aimed at continental Europeans, not North Americans for obvious reasons!

    May I ask why do many of you (not just Skadi members) use Americanised English instead of English English? I have noticed that many of you have a tendency to use American idioms and/or spelling. An example of this is the use of the American slang term 'ass' which more properly is the word 'arse'. An 'ass' is an equine creature such as a horse, donkey or mule. Why do you do this?

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    I know that for Scandinavians, American english is more relatable and easier to speak. I assume this is also true on the continent. Much more exposure to it as well. Maybe they also don't 'favor' all of the french spellings that you have. Favourite, flavour, armour, oui oui monsieur!

    I don't see why it matters either way, although I am not surprised that British people would be upset about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fjaran View Post
    I know that for Scandinavians, American english is more relatable and easier to speak. I assume this is also true on the continent. Much more exposure to it as well. Maybe they also don't 'favor' all of the french spellings that you have. Favourite, flavour, armour, oui oui monsieur!

    I don't see why it matters either way, although I am not surprised that British people would be upset about it.
    If you read the opening post you will that I am requesting input from continental Europeans, not North Americans. With respect your opinion on this matter has no relevance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuotans Krieger View Post
    If you read the opening post you will that I am requesting input from continental Europeans, not North Americans. With respect your opinion on this matter has no relevance.
    No problem, I gave you my opinion anyway.

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    It's mostly due to every-day presence of American "culture" (the export variant, that is) in the every-day lives of mainly youths.

    Gamer Denglish (not a spelling error, it's what we call the pseudo-English the "cool" kids use in games/MMOs *yikes* ), movies they watch in original American English to appear "cool", which are usually the B or C trash movies though with the overblown "low level" / slang language, or worse, disgusting "Rap culture" which apparently consists for like 90% of curses, the lowest of lowest slang and an even more disgusting mindset.

    Many English teachers nowadays also dont know the difference between American and British English anymore. My first English teacher knew and put some emphasis on the British variant for propper grammar, but most I came across later just teach a 'universal' English, which is basically American English.

    I dont think that many who use this language are aware of what they're using or why, however, or with bad intentions for that matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    It's mostly due to every-day presence of American "culture" (the export variant, that is) in the every-day lives of mainly youths.

    Gamer Denglish (not a spelling error, it's what we call the pseudo-English the "cool" kids use in games/MMOs *yikes* ), movies they watch in original American English to appear "cool", which are usually the B or C trash movies though with the overblown "low level" / slang language, or worse, disgusting "Rap culture" which apparently consists for like 90% of curses, the lowest of lowest slang and an even more disgusting mindset.

    Many English teachers nowadays also dont know the difference between American and British English anymore. My first English teacher knew and put some emphasis on the British variant for propper grammar, but most I came across later just teach a 'universal' English, which is basically American English.

    I dont think that many who use this language are aware of what they're using or why, however, or with bad intentions for that matter.
    Thank you. Yes as I feared, a deterioration in the quality of language teachers and the ever present American 'culture' which dominates our television screens and cinemas. I do hope that you watch films and not 'movies'!
    My mother taught herself English and spoke it very well and managed to 'hide' her German accent. The only problem is I mispronounce some English words which confuses English people! I pronounce some words with a 'z' when it should be an 's' and a little problem with distinguishing my 'th's from 'v'-all bad habits from my mother. However I am too old to unlearn these things.

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    I can only repeat what Velvet and Fjaran have said. The legacy of the British Empire + the internet + Hollywood + pop culture is a very potent mix, we're engulfed by American cultural products because of it. But in high school me and my generation only learned British English.

    Quote Originally Posted by W.K.
    I have noticed that many of you have a tendency to use American idioms and/or spelling.
    Sometimes the answer is simply because it's funny (to us continenties), we may do it for comical effect. "Arse" sounds dirtier than "ass" anyway; way too plastic, uncouth even. Besides, Americans seem to have an enduring fascination with the posterior, much to my amusement: My ass, your dumb ass, I never want to see your ass again, giving your ass something to worry about, your ass is mine, your ass is in trouble, your ass better be on time, keep your ass down, your ass won't make it, having your ass handed to you, big ass cars, saving your ass, wanting a piece of that ass, missing someone's ass... - ass, ass, ass - it's all about the ass and I, for one, enjoy this. Go on, ask me which word first comes to my mind when I think of the U.S.? Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuotans Krieger View Post
    Thank you. Yes as I feared, a deterioration in the quality of language teachers and the ever present American 'culture' which dominates our television screens and cinemas. I do hope that you watch films and not 'movies'!
    In German it's Film indeed, but, much to Chlod's dismay , I do not watch many of them
    I've largely divorced myself from "pop culture", I watch some series sometimes or if it's TV, it's mostly docus, preferably nature / animals or other weird stuff for "entertainment"

    My mother taught herself English and spoke it very well and managed to 'hide' her German accent. The only problem is I mispronounce some English words which confuses English people! I pronounce some words with a 'z' when it should be an 's' and a little problem with distinguishing my 'th's from 'v'-all bad habits from my mother. However I am too old to unlearn these things.
    Dont get me started about my pronounciaton
    There are whole universes between my written English and how I would sound like LOL so let's not talk about that
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    I knew some basic English even before having had English classes at elementary school. And the greatest source of the English I had learnt were American movies and TV-series. So American English was always the more natural choice. The English teachers I had in elementary school were all speaking British English (or, at least that's what they were shooting for), but it never had any lasting impact on me and my peers.

    Most of the people I communicate with in English, both by speech and writing, aren't British either, so it wouldn't make much sense to try to emulate you. In my opinion, you should be happy you have your very own accent and linguistic peculiarities, distinct from everyone else who speaks English. But I suppose the tradition of cultural imposition left over from the colonial era still remains even among the Brits.
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    There is always the 'common wealth' though. Their royal monarchy family only goes on "holiday" within the common wealth, as those are the only people who will kiss their asses (that one goes out to Chlodovech).

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