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    Is Putin to the Orthodox what Hitler was to the Catholic church?

    Putin Prays in the Famous Monastic Caves of Pskov With Tikhon, Author of 'Everyday Saints'

    https://russia-insider.com/en/christ...saints/ri25514

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwab View Post
    Putin Prays in the Famous Monastic Caves of Pskov With Tikhon, Author of 'Everyday Saints'

    https://russia-insider.com/en/christ...saints/ri25514
    What was Adolph Hitler then , on the Catholic Church , or even on the Mainstream Christian Religions ?

    What I roughly know , is , that the leading German National Socialists loathed the Christian Religion ,
    which by content is not national , tribal or racial aware .

    And what I had heard of , is , that the German NS had been planning to scuttle the Christian Religions
    in their realm of power in the however far distant future .


    The Orthodox Churches in the East of Europe one could consider Nationalistic , since they are in General
    spelled using the Country's names ; like Russian Orthodox Church, Greek Orthodox Church,
    Serbian Orthodox Church .

    There is no independent German Catholic Church , for example .


    Wladimir Putin visited a Russian Orthodox Monastery in Pskov ,
    apparently on the Sunday of First Advent .


    Do you mean , that Mr Putin would just half-heartedly visit that Church Mess ,
    thinking in some distant future , me or some other Commoner's President would
    abolish the Russian Orthodox Church , and replace them either not , like the
    Communists did , or with something "newer" or even "older" ?

    Since countries need to print money to pay for loyalty of the Public Service ,
    and banks in general give loans to new achievements , my guess would be ,
    that it would be a newer religion -- far distant from anything ancient .

    One could consider the Islam religion a "newer" religion , though Islam had been introduced
    before the Christian Religion was able to establish itself in Northern Europe .
    Mk 10:18 What do you call me a good master, no-one is good .

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwab View Post
    Putin Prays in the Famous Monastic Caves of Pskov With Tikhon, Author of 'Everyday Saints'

    https://russia-insider.com/en/christ...saints/ri25514
    What was Hitler to the Catholic Church? All the indications are he detested Christianity. Putin on the other hand sees the Russian Orthodox Church as many Russians do in nationalistic terms.

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    I believe that Putin discovered the Russian Orthodox religion as a new weapon against the West. I'm studying this new Russian adventure and try to understand it.
    Religion should never mingle with politics, millions have been killed over centuries in the name of a religion or in the name of a deity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwab View Post
    I believe that Putin discovered the Russian Orthodox religion as a new weapon against the West. I'm studying this new Russian adventure and try to understand it.
    Religion should never mingle with politics, millions have been killed over centuries in the name of a religion or in the name of a deity.

    Putin Explains How He Started Believing in God - 'Very Hard to Talk About in Public' (Video)

    https://russia-insider.com/en/christ...-video/ri23841

    Putin Gets Emotional - Tells Story of His Secret Baptism (Video)

    https://russia-insider.com/en/putin-...-video/ri21533

    Restore Russian Monarchy? 'We're Ready to Discuss It' - Top Church Official

    https://russia-insider.com/en/christ...ficial/ri20283

    Russia Built 3 Churches Per Day, 1000 Per Year For 28 Years - A World Record

    https://russia-insider.com/en/past-t...larion/ri17339

    Die spirituelle Wiederauferstehung Russlands

    https://russia-insider.com/en/node/15343

    Russia’s New Military Cathedral Will Train War Priests

    https://russia-insider.com/en/russia...riests/ri25579

    And how pray may this religion be used as a 'weapon'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuotans Krieger View Post
    And how pray may this religion be used as a 'weapon'?
    Simeon and Levi , their swords are murderous weapons ...

    Genesis 49 :
    5 Simeon and Levi are brothers; their swords are weapons of violence.
    6 May I never enter their council; may I never join their assembly. For they kill men in their anger, and hamstring oxen on a whim.…
    https://biblehub.com/genesis/49-5.htm


    And Sem , Simeon is the Constellation Aries , while Levi the Plejades .

    So , since everything is criminalized , and before Court , I would defend myself
    with such statement .
    Mk 10:18 What do you call me a good master, no-one is good .

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    Didn't Hitler use "Gott mit Uns" during the war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwab View Post
    Didn't Hitler use "Gott mit Uns" during the war?
    The slogan 'God with us' on Wehrmacht belt buckles dates back to the Prussian army in 1701 so it did not originate with Hitler. By contrast the Waffen SS used 'Meine Ehre heisst Treue' on theirs. 'My honour is called loyalty'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwab View Post
    Didn't Hitler use "Gott mit Uns" during the war?
    According to Wikipedia , God with us would have been used already by Swedish and
    Brandenburg Military during the Thirty-Years-War 1618-1648 .

    This saying appeared first on belt locks in the mid-19th century in Prussia .

    This Gott mit uns must then have been coined on belt locks during World-War-One also .

    The Wehrmacht has had this saying on belt locks during World-War-Two ,
    but the Schutz-Staffel SS had stamped "Loyalty is my Honour" on their belt locks .

    Wahlspruch, Motto : https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gott_mit_uns
    Belt Lock Koppelschloß : https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koppelschloss


    After the second world war , one claimed on facebook some years ago , that
    the belt manufacturers switched from making belts for soldiers to making belts
    for construction workers , with their profession specific emblems on the locks .

    This for example is a Koppelschloss Maurer ( Mason ) ,
    reading High The Mason's Arts

    From BTI joint technics :
    https://www.bti.de/shop-de/p/9926141...cle_id=9055627

    Similar Koppelschlößer are available for Carpenters, Plumbers, Roofers, and probably a few other professions .
    These Kopelschlösser need a special belt to work .
    Mk 10:18 What do you call me a good master, no-one is good .

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