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    Quote Originally Posted by Aptrgangr View Post
    You're your own league in making things up, nowhere did I claim Finnish trade with Russia had a greater volume than trade with other EU countries, neither did I refer to the USSR, which naturally had a catastrophical bad record when it came to producing consumer goods.
    LOL.
    * I said it is not that important.
    * You said I'm wrong.
    * I showed how it is.
    * Now you are not happy.
    Nah ... just deal with it.

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    What simulation are you talking about?
    Oh, you tell me as you know my country better than me?

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    It is not a matter of numbers, it is a matter of principle.
    Sorry, but I don't care what you think about Finland. It is not your country anyway. You have no place, rights or roles here. So what if you would concentrate more the dark skinned people of your own country? I bet you have those more than enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aptrgangr View Post
    So your West suddenly is not that glorious anymore? Which Allied intervention in favour of the Reds are you referring to anyway?
    Americans help to Sovjet Union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    LOL.
    * I said it is not that important.
    * You said I'm wrong.
    * I showed how it is.
    * Now you are not happy.
    Nah ... just deal with it.
    Russia is 2nd on the importing side, and 5th on the exporting side, that's not "unimportant" for Finland.
    https://www.stat.fi/tup/suoluk/suolu...kauppa_en.html

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    Oh, you tell me as you know my country better than me?
    I didn't claim anything, I asked something.

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    Sorry, but I don't care what you think about Finland. It is not your country anyway. You have no place, rights or roles here. So what if you would concentrate more the dark skinned people of your own country? I bet you have those more than enough.
    Thanks to the very West and "Western values" you adore so much...

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Americans help to Sovjet Union.
    We were talking WW1/Finnish Civil War, not WW2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aptrgangr View Post
    Russia is 2nd on the importing side, and 5th on the exporting side, that's not "unimportant" for Finland.
    https://www.stat.fi/tup/suoluk/suolu...kauppa_en.html
    Nothing which could not be compensated. Hit (and a real one) was much bigger after collapse of Sovjet Union. Finland has faced and survived much worse, as people are good and their products are good. Oil/energy is what Russians are selling us. New nuclear power plant in Eurajoki will reduce even that a lot ... soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aptrgangr View Post
    I didn't claim anything, I asked something.
    Well ... by then I'm afraid you will need to wait for the answer quite sometime. You ain't gonna get it like this.

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    Thanks to the very West and "Western values" you adore so much...
    You are welcome.

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    We were talking WW1/Finnish Civil War, not WW2.
    You were. I wasn't.
    Are you sure that you want to start to debate with me about Finland's civil war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Nothing which could not be compensated. Hit (and a real one) was much bigger after collapse of Sovjet Union. Finland has faced and survived much worse, as people are good and their products are good. Oil/energy is what Russians are selling us. New nuclear power plant in Eurajoki will reduce even that a lot ... soon.
    Neighbouring countries benefit from mutual trade, it remains to be seen how much the dependency on Russian gas is lowered by a nuclear plant.
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    Well ... by then I'm afraid you will need to wait for the answer quite sometime. You ain't gonna get it like this.
    Or, you simply link to the simulation you referred to.
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    You were. I wasn't.
    Are you sure that you want to start to debate with me about Finland's civil war?

    Of course you did "The losing side was supported by the worst assholes in the planet ... you know who? Yes; Russians!
    BTW: You Germans actually helped Finns (''whites'') to win that civil war at 1918. Thank You for that!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aptrgangr View Post
    Neighbouring countries benefit from mutual trade, it remains to be seen how much the dependency on Russian gas is lowered by a nuclear plant.
    Finland has never needed, and will never ever need Russia. Instead all the worst sufferings and horrors have always arrived from east. Time after time ... in last 1000 years time. Nope, I hope there would be huge ocean between those 2 countries and after that still 3*times wider minefield than is between North Korea - South Korea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aptrgangr View Post
    Or, you simply link to the simulation you referred to.
    Nope. You forgot to say ''please'' and begging .... now it is too late for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aptrgangr View Post
    Of course you did "The losing side was supported by the worst assholes in the planet ... you know who? Yes; Russians!
    BTW: You Germans actually helped Finns (''whites'') to win that civil war at 1918. Thank You for that!"
    As I said ... there is nothing you can teach me about Finland's civil war. I bet I know it much better than you do.
    Instead ... if Germany would would have wunnit WWI, what has been the future of Finland? Wants to speculate on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Finland has never needed, and will never ever need Russia. Instead all the worst sufferings and horrors have always arrived from east. Time after time ... in last 1000 years time. Nope, I hope there would be huge ocean between those 2 countries and after that still 3*times wider minefield than is between North Korea - South Korea.


    Nope. You forgot to say ''please'' and begging .... now it is too late for that.



    As I said ... there is nothing you can teach me about Finland's civil war. I bet I know it much better than you do.
    Instead ... if Germany would would have wunnit WWI, what has been future of Finland? Wants to speculate on that?
    I'm curious to learn about the history between Finland and Russia. I know they failed to take Finland as the USSR.

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    I just want to say that the fact that the American Empire (by which I mean the Federal Government + NATO + NGOs) is incredibly corrupt does not mean that Russia is your friend. Think of it this way:

    - America is a multiracial country with reservations for Indians and millions of immigrants in its cities.

    - Russia is a multiracial country with republics for indigenous Asians and millions of immigrants in its cities.

    Neither system offers any hope for Europe's peoples.

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