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    Quote Originally Posted by GW
    So because some guys are so stupid to give lots of money to a pretty girl who dances, sometimes in a skimpy outfit, and maybe sells them a fantasy; begging laws needs to be extended?
    Sure, ideally. Why should the internet be different from the main street in your local town in this regard? Is there anything positive about begging for money on the internet? It's one thing if someone is collecting money for a dying child - but even then caution is advised. However, I don't know how such a measure can be implemented in practice in a functional way - I merely tried to spark debate.

    It would already be a huge leap for mankind if Twitch simply declared live donations verboten.

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    The major problem here is that the men, and maybe some women, who trow money at girls like her and Belle Delphine should realise that they are paying for nothing more then a fantasy at best and that the chance is 0% that they might get anything more then that out of it.
    They don't realize they're being exploited, most of them I would think. The guys who donate to these girls aren't playing with a full deck of cards. They're deprived of meaningful social contact or at least contact with women. Their imagination does the rest. And then there are probably men as empty as Belle Delphine herself, who reason that them giving money to women means they should be at least entitled to something - unpleasant characters with an internet connection. But overall, donations must mainly come from some very lonely and unhappy men. Including those who can't miss the money.

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    Besides that, considering the tread you placed it in I would presume that she has been reported to the tax police of her country?
    Yes, no doubt about it, there's always one hacker known as 4Chan who will do that. And Mike Cernovich. She's too big now not to be reported. And this is an example of the type who would get reported anyway. You don't really want me to start a new thread about this subject I think, I'm sure all things "thoty" can go into this thread - with the exception of "trad thoty" matters, which is Sjoerd's domain. We can always simply change the title of this thread if it gets too comprehensive. Der Kämpf geht weiter.
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    These men are not victims, they are pitifully self-debasing and encouraging bad behavior. It is self-delusion and stupidity, pure and simple, to think that one has any chance at all with these slutty, super-made-up women that are demanding cash money for you to even talk with them like a normal human being. These women are scum but they aren't making any promises, they're selling fantasies like Groenewolf said, every sane person knows this. If these men were really that desperate for companionship, they could go after the plain janes they ignore or take all that wasted money and develop actual skills or get a personal trainer. "Woe is me", f*** that noise, they are perpetuating evil.

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    I don't see much difference between this and actual prostitution, aside from the lack of physical contact. Stories of men falling in love with a prostitute are as old as the profession itself. It's not as if in the online world men are falsely promised something real while there is full honesty in real life prostitution. That is a false distinction. The only distinction is that the internet makes it much easier for both men and women to engage in these practices; hence it occurs on a larger scale and is visible for anyone to see. But this kind of 'deception' occurs in the world of real life physical prostitution as well. Plenty of men who keep visiting the same prostitute over and over again, thinking that he is actually much more important to her than all the other costumers, and hoping that she will appreciate all the money he spends on her in some special way. That's why one of their products is also the 'girlfriend experience'. Love makes blind and both real life prostitutes and online prostitutes make tons of money taking advantage of this.

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    For the record, because every time this thread expands the same misunderstandings arise and it has been that way since post #2: e-thottery is low level prostitution or a gateway to it, but none of these girls are sex workers - there's still a big difference between prostitutes and e-thots. The latter sit on a chair wearing skimpy clothes playing video games while camming, feeling entitled to your money and that's pretty much it. They certainly don't view themselves as prostitutes and would ban you from their chatbox if you suggested that or asked them for sexual services.

    I don't see the men as full on 'victims' as such, I'm suggesting they're not as guilty. We are talking about women who specifically target male spaces on the internet where they know lots of lonely men gather, such as spaces gamers frequent (or far right circles) and where orbiters can be harvested. No-one has to like the guys who are harvested, but being naive is not malicious. Coveting someone else's money is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coillearhnach
    If these men were really that desperate for companionship, they could go after the plain janes they ignore or take all that wasted money
    We don't really know who these men are, but a great deal of them are undoubtedly ignored by plain Janes. Women are far more picky than men, it's the way it is, not the other way around. And guys who can easily "pull girls" in real life don't prefer an interactive virtual fantasy unless they develop some kind of obsession.

    But maybe there's another factor to consider: human interaction happens less and less face to face, this is especially true for the younger generations. The people who fall for e-thots are not necessarily pathetic, it's a prejudice of us slightly older people to think that way. It's perfectly normal to develop a cyber crush today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coillearnach
    and develop actual skills or get a personal trainer. "Woe is me", f*** that noise, they are perpetuating evil.
    See my last statement. Everyone is online these days, those with and without people skills - the guys who fall for this kind of scam are for the better part incels of some kind (but they may not even think "woe is me", many single men don't feel that way at all), presumably, but there are millions who are not. And e-thots are making things worse for them. 15 years ago this statement would've been spot on, now not so much. It's a different world and internet today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernhard
    That's why one of their products is also the 'girlfriend experience'.
    It's the guy's fault, in the case of a prostitute. If a woman offers merely sex but a man falls in love with her he can only blame himself. But these girls are not prostitutes. E-thots leave open the possibility that the girlfriend experience could become or is in fact the real thing. And that's what makes this line of work more dubious than prostitution, because it's reliant upon dishonesty. The dishonesty is built-in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech View Post

    We don't really know who these men are, but a great deal of them are undoubtedly ignored by plain Janes. Women are far more picky than men, it's the way it is, not the other way around. And guys who can easily "pull girls" in real life don't prefer an interactive virtual fantasy unless they develop some kind of obsession.
    Yes, some of them probably are ignored by plain women (rightly or wrongly), but a hypothetical man who is scorned by plain women then throwing money at women that he would never ever in a million years have a chance with for favors is totally deranged if he thinks this is a form of wooing and not sex work, and frankly maybe should be ignored eugenically-speaking. It does make sense that a man who could only pull unattractive women, a social cripple, or just a selfish man might prefer a virtual fantasy vs a living breathing woman he has to accommodate given the ubiquity of pornography, etc.

    But maybe there's another factor to consider: human interaction happens less and less face to face, this is especially true for the younger generations. The people who fall for e-thots are not necessarily pathetic, it's a prejudice of us slightly older people to think that way. It's perfectly normal to develop a cyber crush today.
    Nice try but this is 100% pathetic. This is not a "crush", people don't throw money at crushes like you'd put bills in a hooker's thong. Chlod, I think you are the one whose mindset is stuck in the past, average kids KNOW this is prostitution's little sister.

    See my last statement. Everyone is online these days, those with and without people skills - the guys who fall for this kind of scam are for the better part incels of some kind (but they may not even think "woe is me", many single men don't feel that way at all), presumably, but there are millions who are not. And e-thots are making things worse for them. 15 years ago this statement would've been spot on, now not so much. It's a different world and internet today.
    If they're incels, they're definitely of the "woe is me" variety - I cite the buckets and buckets of text diarrhea they've splattered all over reddit and beyond bouncing from incandescent rage to intense self pity and misanthropy. "E-thots" wouldn't even exist if it weren't for these men and others willing to indulge this crap, that little bit of self-reflection is the missing piece to this puzzle, trying to get the sluts to shoulder all the blame for their own lack of self control and dignity is just more evidence of abdication of personal responsibility. Are social conditions getting worse? Absolutely yes, I doubt anyone here would deny that, nor do I claim that what I offered was some kind of fool-proof training manual against loneliness in an increasingly broken world, but part and parcel to the remedy for this whole mess is not indulging in moral weakness and doing the best you can possibly do regardless of the result. The excuses have to stop.

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    I consider such women sex workers. They may not be prostitutes per se, but a sex worker is not necessarily a prostitute, and sex worker is not necessarily someone who supplies one with physical sex. What about those women who talk dirty to men on the phone while the men get off? Prostitutes? Perhaps, depends whom you ask. Sex workers? Definitely. Or take strippers, erotic dancers, escorts or sugar babies. They might not engage in sexual relations with their clients, but they still sell themselves in a way that is sexual. Thus I'd place them in the same wider category. It should be pretty clear to any man who engages with them that this is a paid service and no true, old fashioned relationship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech View Post
    They're deprived of meaningful social contact or at least contact with women.
    And who deprives them but themselves? Ya ain't gonna get a gf if you spend 23 hrs/day in the basement playing video games and surfing the web. Chicks don't exactly fall from the sky, directly into some incel's lap. If you're socially awkward and don't get out, if ya don't take care of yourself and have bad hygiene, you're not getting any. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2.

    Nowadays with the emergence of social media and video games, there are far more socially awkward dudes who turn into incels. The reason they look for gfs online is cause it's convenient. They don't have to shower, they don't have to go out, heck they don't even have to leave their basement. However, internet relationships ain't real. Ya can't seriously expect smb you've never met to be your gf. All serious relationships which started online culminated in meeting IRL. If there's no talk about that, well, it ain't real. If ya want to blame smb for failed online relationships, blame catfishes. It's those who take advantage of folks's feelings and such. And even then, it still takes two to tango.

    For the record, because every time this thread expands the same misunderstandings arise and it has been that way since post #2: e-thottery is low level prostitution or a gateway to it, but none of these girls are sex workers - there's still a big difference between prostitutes and e-thots. The latter sit on a chair wearing skimpy clothes playing video games while camming, feeling entitled to your money and that's pretty much it. They certainly don't view themselves as prostitutes and would ban you from their chatbox if you suggested that or asked them for sexual services.
    Pretty much agree with what Bernhard & Winkelried have said here. They ain't hookers, but they may be some type of sex industry workers. They don't need to supply physical sex, why should they? Some escorts don't either, and neither do hotline workers. The sex industry is pretty big and varied, and folks sell more than just physical sex. Strippers for example also have a strict no touching and no sex policy. So what? Does that mean that men who go to strip clubs are victims? LOL, cmon. They know what they're getting into. Same goes for cam modeling. And this chick (troll IMO), Belle Delphine doesn't even strip, she just poses in skimpy clothes. If a dude misunderstands and expects her to become his gf, then he's the one who is deluded. Her terms are clear. Want lewd photos? Pay up. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude they will get lewd photos.

    P.S. Even some of the hookers have bfs and boundaries. They offer sex, but no more. If a client becomes obsessed and fantasizes about a relationship, they may find themselves thrown out or banned from the brothel. Escorts and sugar babies offer company and the "gf experience", but not all of them offer sex, and if the guy makes an uninvited move, they also end the transaction. It is a business after all.

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